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Old 04-02-2009, 01:08 AM
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The people he will one day rule, are also allowed an opinion on what they see as his work ethic. Any officers involved in his training are kept silent by the Official Secrets Act, the views of his co workers are known only to their wives/gitlfriends/husbands/boyfriends.

I wonder if that could be because he is given time off to perform his royal duties and he then also uses said time to seek entertainment?
You pretty much summed up what I was going to say, hence I'm less inclined to repeat it and bother responding

I find it hysterical thou that only William's officer or senior officials might comment on his lack of work ethic and usual drunken entertainment, while supposedly training within the arm forces. If we were to only take 'official' comments, then there would be no point for royal forums where the public can express their point of views.

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Obviously you hold neither Prince's Charles nor William in any degree of esteem going by the cheap shot about Charles. May I recommend the Prince of Wales thread to elucidate?
High regard is earned, and assumptions often lead to false conclusions. Prince Charles as a public figure performing his royal duty is impeccable, his personal life is a different matter & I could care less to repeat ancient history and beat it up to death.

Now, Prince William like most young royals has yet to earn his stripe in term of the respect and regard his grandmother or father deserves from the tax payers.

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However, back to Prince Willam whose charity/royal work you in your ifinite wisdom and knowledge, have decreed is only "Supposed", and, at that, unworthy because it is "sports' related. Could you possibly supply any reports or links to affirm your statement?
My infinite wisdome would like to suggest you go through this thread and others, where William's charity outing consists of sports.

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So, if one is to equate William with any member of the BRF it would in fact be Prince Andrew, Navy Pilot, veteran of the Falklands War, and second in line.

As to how Prince William (or Harry for that matter) spends his "off duty" time so long as it's legal, it's none of our business. In the Military they tend to work hard and play hard. Having said that, both William and Harry have spent a significantly less amount of time in the public view partying since beginning their new training.

I hope they keep striving and winning.
sadly, I'll have to disagree, being a titled royal and 3rd in-line to the crown where our tax money are spend on his security and 'military' training, makes his action our business. Going from bar to clubs, taking vacations here and there, while claiming you are a series soldier getting training like every other soldiers shows abuse of ones privilege and place. In this recent case, where he went on a short vacation with his girlfriend, while none of his fellow soldiers could take similar opportunity until the Easter break. Not to mention, when he flew extremely expensive military aircraft, to land it on his girlfriend's backyard as a show off?

We can all give Prince William and Harry the benefit of the doubt, but to go on the usual defense of their actions or lack thereof because of their title and royal privilege shows how the culture of celeb worshiping makes all of us inept followers. Let's agree to disagree, instead of personal attacks and ad hominid point of view.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:49 AM
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I think everybody is allowed to hold an opinion on pretty much anything, but only few may be qualified to provide meaningful comment.
Senior Officers receive reports from junior officers, the people who are fully conversant with his work ethic are the men and women he is training with, the same men and women who continued with their training while William took leave. Others as/more qualified could be the ground crews. However if we are talking 'qualified', then very few on this forum are qualified to state that his work ethic is fine or aceptable. The Channel 4 programme showed how few royal engagements William was involved with and compared to his father (a full time Naval Officer), he does seem to be lacking.
'Workshy' Prince William attends just 14 official engagements in a year | Mail Online

However in his defence, it might be worth remembering that there were not as many royals in Charles' day to share all the invites around.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:00 AM
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Going from bar to clubs, taking vacations here and there, while claiming you are a series soldier getting training like every other soldiers shows abuse of ones privilege and place.
I had not realised that serving members of the armed forces were not allowed to socialise, or take vacations when they are not on duty. Are you actually suggesting that as long as William is in the military, he not take vacation, or socialise?

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I find it hysterical thou that only William's officer or senior officials might comment on his lack of work ethic and usual drunken entertainment, while supposedly training within the arm forces.
I sincerely hope you have recovered from your hysteria.

How would you feel qualified to comment on his work as a serving member of the military, when (I am assuming) you are not familiar with how he may be performing? Alternately, have you been present at his public engagements, or has he carried out any engagements for any causes (eg Centrepoint) that you are closely involved in, and therefore, have first hand knowledge of how effective he was in the role?
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:10 AM
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Senior Officers receive reports from junior officers, the people who are fully conversant with his work ethic are the men and women he is training with, the same men and women who continued with their training while William took leave. Others as/more qualified could be the ground crews. However if we are talking 'qualified', then very few on this forum are qualified to state that his work ethic is fine or aceptable.
This is exactly the point I was making in post 451. The only people qualified to comment on William's "work ethic",IMO, are his senior officers or his peers, ie people he works/trains with. None of us on the forums, unless we have worked with him, can really comment on this. We may comment on whether we think he is doing enough or not based on the limited information we have, but little more than that, IMO.


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The Channel 4 programme showed how few royal engagements William was involved with and compared to his father (a full time Naval Officer), he does seem to be lacking.
'Workshy' Prince William attends just 14 official engagements in a year | Mail Online

However in his defence, it might be worth remembering that there were not as many royals in Charles' day to share all the invites around.
There is no doubt that William probably need to do more engagements.I don't think this necessarily stems from his being work shy, but I suspect this was a conscience decisoon taken by CH / BP to gently "break him in" as there are qyuite a few other royals at the moment. Also, it may have to do with trying to further establish Camilla as a senior royal before the spot light shifts to William.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:23 AM
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This is exactly the point I was making in post 451. The only people qualified to comment on William's "work ethic",IMO, are his senior officers or his peers, ie people he works/trains with. None of us on the forums, unless we have worked with him, can really comment on this. We may comment on whether we think he is doing enough or not based on the limited information we have, but little more than that, IMO.
In the same way that nobody then can defend his work ethic, all anyone can do is comment on what they have seen, heard or read.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:53 AM
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In the same way that nobody then can defend his work ethic, all anyone can do is comment on what they have seen, heard or read.
Absolutely!
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:11 PM
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I found these articles interesting, someone can post this in Harry's forum too
San Francisco Sentinel » Blog Archives » THE RELUCTANT PRINCES - DOES IT SPELL TROUBLE FOR THE BRITISH MONARCHY?

Patrick Barkham on the reluctant princes, William and Harry | UK news | The Guardian
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:59 AM
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Well, that explains why the article never appeared on the NOTW website. Surely, had the conversation actually taken place, the newspaper wouldn't have retracted the story, right?

Yeah, that story was just too good to be true. Obviously he doesn't talk to the press even inadvertently, but the paper wanted to sell copies, as usual. Interestingly, even in this supposed '' interview'' though the paper didn't say he had said anything about his possibly marrying Kate Middleton, they said he said wait and see. So they knew they couldn't put words in his mouth with regards to that or people would find the story dubious.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:56 PM
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Prince William prangs plane | The Sun |News|Royals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169827/Prince-William-grounded-jet-cockpit-error.html
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:09 AM
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Prince William has reportedly damaged an aircraft during his RAF training but the Ministry of Defence was keen to play down the seriousness of the incident.

Prince William 'damages plane' during RAF training - Telegraph
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Misleading headline, the plane was NOT damaged, it was checked/serviced earlier than scheduled, I understand.
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Prince William grounded a £1million RAF aircraft - He's not the only one, we've had two or three. Better pilots than him have done it.' He added that the mistake could have happened because there were two pilots in the aircraft.
Mr Watts added: 'If one thinks the engine is off and the other does not think he has switched it off, he can switch it back on.
'These mistakes are known as "finger trouble"

The checks revealed no damage to the aircraft.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-engine.html
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:12 AM
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Misleading headline, the plane was NOT damaged, it was checked/serviced earlier than scheduled, I understand.
Is it normal to service a plane earlier than schedule without any special reason?
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:19 AM
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Is it normal to service a plane earlier than schedule without any special reason?
Unfortunately yes. Trainee pilots get into all sorts of scrapes, because they are trainees.
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It sounds as though what gets the scrapes is the plane.
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Old 04-14-2009, 01:22 PM
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I am glad he 's alright no hurt at all..
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:57 PM
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No damage done says MoD after Wills 'overcooked' plane engine

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Old 04-24-2009, 10:53 AM
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new Pics Prince william visit children

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Two funny pics of William today:

Britain's Prince William smiles during a visit to construction vehicle
company JCB's company's headquarters to mark the production of
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Old 04-24-2009, 01:14 PM
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He certainly appears to be enjoying himself.....not really the picture of a reluctant royal, resentful of taking on public duties.

Surely his detractors would have noticed that this engagement was a sunny Friday..... which can only mean that Wills have the weekend off.... clear sign of nepotism............bending rules.......waste of government funding
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watch video at William's visit: Prince William visits JCB factory | 750000 machine
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