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Old 04-16-2008, 09:58 PM
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Because it looks like a rort. It was just too, too convenient, especially stopping to pick up Harry on the way.
Well it shows that he can stop and start all over again! He should have passed.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:49 AM
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The whole story is rather amusing. Picking up Prince Harry was not the smartest thing to do. Prince William and Prince Harry must travel separately.
You definately have a point here. Imagine if shomething had happened on that trip? That would have left us with a future queen Beatrice.... gruesome idea.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:54 AM
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IMO opinion the ´helipcopter story´ is shameful for William!

Now the D...Mail takes the story to make Prince Charles indirect guilty for his son´s behaviour...

Shouldn´t a Prince William with 25 be responsible for the nonsense he does?
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William, a helicopter - and this risk to the monarchy | the Daily Mail

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(...) Above all, though, I blame his father. Of course, Prince Charles was probably unaware of this particular jaunt. He cannot be watching his son every hour of the day.
However, he appears not to have convinced him, or Harry, that it would be advisable for leading members of the Royal Family not to be seen living high off the hog.
Perhaps this is because Prince Charles is himself pampered and rather spoilt.(...)
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:01 AM
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IMO opinion the ´helipcopter story´ is shameful for William!
I wouldn't go so far. Who knows how this came about? Maybe the trainingsunit really had to be cancelled and they didn't want to change the date of the graduation ceremony, what with Charles and Camilla attending. So the instructors really wanted William to finish the course as fast as possible (after he already got his wings for it! - bad propaganda for the RAF, if it came out...) and told him that this weekend would be convenient, only to find out that Peter Philips' stag party was scheduled for this weekend and so organized this trip to go to the IoW.

I doubt anyone thought it would get this kind of coverage. But it will teach William a lesson: gone are the times when people did neither knew nor judged about how a prince spends his time...
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:19 AM
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So much for the fun ride at taxpayers' expense.
1. He was probably the co-pilot not the pilot.
2. William could have completed the training the following week.
3. He should not have received his wings before completing his training to give any credibility to his 'earning' them.
4. Anyone else would have trained over the nearest body of water and city (yes we have more than one), not been flown to London, picked up a brother and then on to a 3 day drinking binge.
5. How incredibly convenient to have to cancel a supposed training element and reschedule it for the stag party Do the MOD think we are complete mugs to believe that one?
6. MoD probes 'rat-infested RAF homes' - Yahoo! News UK
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:28 AM
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This whole story only shows the massive lack of maturity and obvious lack of perception of public opinion of those involved, the princes and the morons who are in charge of the MOD.

Granny even cancels her anniversary party because of a recession but her grandsons don't bother doing such a stunt on taxpayers money and covering it as "part of the training" is only another prove that the public is believed to be totally stupid. Is there anyone left in the younger generation of this family who has at least a little bit of emotional intelligence? If the Princes' behaviour is not much different anymore from any other embarrassing and careless youth on the streets of this country why further pay for their lavish lifestyle? It's about EARNING something (respect, position) before TAKING and the princes should have a closer look at the achievements of their grandparents or Queen Mum if they want the monarchy to survive.
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Ok, i've tried to ingnore this story to a degree because i know it will get me mad, but too late.

This was in my opinion a silly thing for the prince to do. I have parents nad siblings in the RAF and have grown up around the RAF, i know that its common for pesonnel to hitch lifts on aircraft and for piliots to fly out to nice locations and go on drinking session etc. But this is a new level

1) William has already cost taxpayers alot of money in his training in both the Army and the RAF. I've always beleived there was no reason for him to have learnt to fly, yes he should have experience inthe RAF, but the RAF is more than just pilots. HE could have chosen anotehr area of the RAF to experience which would have been cheaper adn less insultingto those memebers of the RAF who are not pilots. Prehaps it was felt that William would find flying "cool."

2) I've never heard of pilots using aircraft to fly out to places for pre-planned personal events. Clearly the stag do has pre-planned. if Willaim had flown to the Isle of White nad jsut gone drinking because he was hter then that would not have been so bad at all, but this was pre-planned which should raise questions.

3) Picking up Prince Harry really gives the impression that the helicopter was rather more seen as a "taxi service" than a training exercise.

4) Helicopters such as chinooks are in short supply for troops in Iraq and Afghan, this is clearly out of the hand sof the prince's, but more common sense would have been usefull on their part.

5) Why didn't someone, if not William and harry themselves, suggest that this might not look good?

6) In conclusion, this shows a lack of judgement and senstivity on the parts of the Princes.

7) Do we expect an apology or explanation from the princes or clarence house?
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Let me just say before people point it out - i do not beleive for a moment that William and Harry simply requested the chinook to take them, but they and their advisors and people in the MOD should have realised that it was a mistake.

This has, i think, really damaged the opinion many people have of William, which until now has been widely postitive.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:36 PM
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I don't know I don't think it has damaged people's opinion on William I know atleast for the people I know here, still think William is lovely, I doubt they've even heard about the story except if they watched Global which is where they ran the story, newspapers haven't picked up on it from what I know. I just think this wasn't properly thought out not just by the princes but by everyone including advisors.
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Old 04-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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Let me just say before people point it out - i do not beleive for a moment that William and Harry simply requested the chinook to take them, but they and their advisors and people in the MOD should have realised that it was a mistake.

This has, i think, really damaged the opinion many people have of William, which until now has been widely positive.
Whether they requested it or not, and lets face it William only had to mention it to the 'right' people, it was in extremely bad taste and has lowered peoples opinions of William, Harry and the royals in general. IMO Not only the use of the Chinook but the binge drinking, again.
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I don't know I don't think it has damaged people's opinion on William I know atleast for the people I know here, still think William is lovely,........
I don't think William will have to worry about what the Canadian people think of him, by the time he is King, I would imagine Canada will have become a republic. This might in years to come flavour their decision.
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^Ya I know lol I don't mind though I like the fact I constantly hear about the BRF because of that.
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:51 AM
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I don't think William will have to worry about what the Canadian people think of him, by the time he is King, I would imagine Canada will have become a republic. This might in years to come flavour their decision.
I don't think Canada will be, though I think most, if not all of the rest will have been. Canada will be a monarchy for a long while due to the near-impossibility of amending the Constitution in that regard. All it takes is one province out of ten holding out and it is shot down. I can imagine that some would refuse to go along just to spite the federal government of the day.
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Whether they requested it or not, and lets face it William only had to mention it to the 'right' people, it was in extremely bad taste and has lowered peoples opinions of William, Harry and the royals in general. IMO Not only the use of the Chinook but the binge drinking, again.
Yes, that was really unfortunate. Couldn't they have celebrated the Stag party some place less in the public eye, like asking Granny for Balmoral and go to a pub there in the countryside? Now Peter Philips, a member of the BRF who has so far not been exposed for his drinking and clubbing in the public appears to be just like "them all". A pity.

And on thinking about the risk to the succession that Al Bina introduced here about William and Harry using the same helicopter I am convinced Skydragon is right: if William flew at all he was co-piloting the copter. They wouldn't have risked Harry's life. IMHO.
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lol Odd jo You said Harrys life no mention of William jk :P (Seriously William needs to be more Responsible, I Dont know)
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lol Odd jo You said Harrys life no mention of William jk :P (Seriously William needs to be more Responsible, I Dont know)
Yes, but then William is the pilot - so once they decided to allow him to learn how to fly, his life was at risk anyway. While Harry was just the passenger of a very inexperienced pilot, if they let William fly on this trip... That's different, IMHO.
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BBC NEWS | UK | William Chinook landing defended

Defence officials have justified giving Prince William permission to land a helicopter in a field belonging to his girlfriend Kate Middleton's family.


The Ministry of Defence (MoD) issued a statement after the News of the World reported William touched down at the Middletons' Berkshire home on 3 April.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:49 AM
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Which would really, really be too bad IMHO. I don't like the sound of "The Republic of Canada." I don't like it at all.

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by the time he is King, I would imagine Canada will have become a republic. This might in years to come flavour their decision.
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? Now Peter Philips, a member of the BRF who has so far not been exposed for his drinking and clubbing in the public appears to be just like "them all". A pity.

And on thinking about the risk to the succession that Al Bina introduced here about William and Harry using the same helicopter I am convinced Skydragon is right: if William flew at all he was co-piloting the copter. They wouldn't have risked Harry's life. IMHO.
Peter Philips leads a lower key life but he's pretty typical of his generation. In the past the papers have had stories of his 'boozy' holidays in Ibiza with friends and his gap year stay in Australia was quite typical of many young Brits, his sister Zara as well. Peter spent a number of years on the Grand Prix circuit so he's managed to escape the British media for the most part.

The RAF statement did say that once William had flown and landed on the Isle of Wight the co-pilot flew it back to its base in Hampshire (?) So it wasn't just William flying the helicopter. William and Harry often travel together, there's no prohibition on them travelling together. It's Charles and William who aren't supposed to fly together ( although there have been exceptions in the past)
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William and Harry often travel together, there's no prohibition on them travelling together. It's Charles and William who aren't supposed to fly together ( although there have been exceptions in the past)
My problem is not with them travelling together but travelling together in a copter that was flown by an inexperienced pilot.
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Military officials have defended a decision to allow Prince William to land his RAF helicopter in girlfriend Kate Middleton's garden.

The Ministry of Defence issued a statement after the News of the World reported the prince had landed the aircraft at the property in Berkshire on April 3.

Prince William Lands Chopper In Kate Middleton's Garden |Sky News|UK News

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