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Old 10-30-2006, 06:34 PM
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Someone needs to tell the photographers to start their own training...run like hell when the Killer Wales Brothers charge. BTW, it would seem logical that William is going through the same basic training as Harry did. How come it was never mentioned with Harrry?
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It was mentioned for Harry also only it was how going miss part of because he hurt his finger.
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:10 PM
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We got to see Prince Harry in combat uniform. I wonder why we get a 'mocked up' Prince William with a bayonet?
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:21 PM
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Taken from the Sun article.
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"Last night a Sandhurst source said: “Cadets have to really feel aggressive before making a charge. Once instructors have finished with Wills he will be a killer.”

Oh, Please.....
Well I guess he's right and they must have to pump themselves up before making a charge; I guess trash talk as as good as anything else for getting the blood boiling but 'Killer Wales'? Sounds like Orca the Killer Whale!
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Old 10-31-2006, 12:32 AM
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...but 'Killer Wales'? Sounds like Orca the Killer Whale!

Yes it does...how about, 'Free Willy', the Killer 'Wales'!
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:22 AM
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Prince William in trouble after losing a gun

Uh oh. I guess they can't justify that Order of the Garter award so much anymore
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:48 AM
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"Last night a Sandhurst source said: “Cadets have to really feel aggressive before making a charge. Once instructors have finished with Wills he will be a killer.”

Oh, Please.....
Now that is what military training is all about: to get human beings over the in-born inhibition to kill their own species. Some will never do it, some need time to, but it's a known fact that military instructors know exactly how to get most people to become able to kill if need be. When the public accepted that William was to become a soldier (there is no difference between men and officers when it comes to the killing) they accepted that one aim was to make him into a potential killer of other human beings. One who kills on orders of his superiors. So while the wording might be crude, the fact is that that's exactly what the instructors are trying to achieve - beside other things, of course, which include making sure that William is only killing on orders and not for his private pleasure. (I omit the smilie here...)
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Does really anyone believe that he "lost" his rifle or was it a Machine Gun?
Would William really do that since get him into trouble and make him look stupid?
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:28 AM
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Most people don't lose things on purpose. Haha I guess I'm kind of sensitive to the topic because I constantly lose my credit cards, keys, wallet. I feel bad for him
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:53 AM
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I would imagine it's rather difficult to lose a gun. That said, I don't think he'd do something to intentionally cast a negative light on himself. I think he's a tad bit smarter than that.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:46 AM
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Yes it does...how about, 'Free Willy', the Killer 'Wales'!
That's rather clever!
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Most people don't lose things on purpose. Haha I guess I'm kind of sensitive to the topic because I constantly lose my credit cards, keys, wallet. I feel bad for him
I've left my debit card in the machine twice now, and I've been known to misplace keys and things like that, but I doubt I'd lose a rifle. Besides that, William is less than half my age and shouldn't be absent minded, and he must be *extremely* embarrassed about it, poor lamb.
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Does really anyone believe that he "lost" his rifle or was it a Machine Gun?
Would William really do that since get him into trouble and make him look stupid?
Hm, it read as if there was more to the story, as another guy found the gun and obvioulsy used it and brought it back later on. So, I don't know but it sounded strange as the article said that these guns are personalized items, so why take it, use it and give it back to the officials instead of searching for the comrade who had "left" it? Why the time gap?
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:57 AM
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Hm, it read as if there was more to the story, as another guy found the gun and obvioulsy used it and brought it back later on. So, I don't know but it sounded strange as the article said that these guns are personalized items, so why take it, use it and give it back to the officials instead of searching for the comrade who had "left" it? Why the time gap?
They are not 'personalised', but they do all have a serial number. When these weapons are signed out, Tom will check and agree the serial number of the weapon he is signing for, before he signs, Dick will check and agree the number of the weapon he is signing for, before he signs, etc.

It should be immaterial that another cadet found it and mistook it for his assigned weapon and then found when it was being signed back in, that it wasn't the weapon that was supposed to be in his keeping. William should, the moment he realised that he had mislaid it, have reported it to allow a full search.

Anyone could have found, used or sold the blooming thing and if he does get the SoH, then shame on the Officers Commanding!
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:46 AM
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I'm still baffled as to how you misplace one of those guns. They're not exactly hard to miss!
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William should, the moment he realised that he had mislaid it, have reported it to allow a full search.

Anyone could have found, used or sold the blooming thing and if he does get the SoH, then shame on the Officers Commanding!
You're right. To become an officer means as well to learn when to say you're in the wrong and ask for help in preventing potential danger instead of trying to save the world single-handed. The aim should always be more important than the ego when working together in an group-effort and the way it was reported William handled the situation was wrong IMHO.

Maybe it was some sort of test for those cadets in line for the SoH? Like one cadet was ordered to take William's gun and another to offer his bicycle? Like a character test? I know tests like that are performed with future pilots at the US air force and if the test goes the wrong way, the pilot will have to serve in another, not so prestigious unit.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:55 AM
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Prince William Ashes hope..

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Old 10-31-2006, 11:39 AM
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Mislaid gun could cost Wills army honour..

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...e-william-gun/
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:48 PM
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When I first started reading the story I instantly thought to myself he didn't misplace it , rather I am sure someone took it. Either by accident or on purpose. Which ever it was I don't think that Wills has to worry all that much.
Having gone through training myself I know they are much harder on you when you have a perfect record and then screw up, especially near the completion of your training. But it is just usually a verbal dressing down and maybe an extra duty for a day or two. I still hope he gets the SOH.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:55 PM
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It's actually reassuring to know that Prince William's mislaying of his weapon, or being careless, (such as allowing another cadet to pick it up mistakenly) might very well result in him not being considered for the Sword of Honour.

It means that the Officers in charge actually intended for any honours given to be truly earned.
I hope that Prince William has learned a valuable lesson about being alert and keeping track of items you are responsible for even in the midst of great activity. It's too bad that he's out of the running for the award, but at least he knows how to handle this type of thing properly from now on.
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