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Old 10-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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Does everyone really thinks this relationship is going to last...if they broke up once, it can happen again. I believe Prince William is holding on to Kate knowing she likes to party as he does. I've seen this a lot with friends and family. She is a girl to go out and have fun, but when his ready to get married or possible fit to be future Queen, he will dump her, like before.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:57 PM
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I really don't care whether they stay together, break up or move into a narrowboat with Nana Mouskouri. I'd be more interested to know what direction this future King has 'cos at the moment it seems his direction includes just nightclubs and knickers.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:02 PM
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I don't think they will stay together.The first pictures we see with them together are with Kate smiling and William, not even knowing whats going on. When William is with her he is drunk and partying, but when he is not he is so put together. Kate is not fit to be queen.
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I don't think they will stay together.The first pictures we see with them together are with Kate smiling and William, not even knowing whats going on. When William is with her he is drunk and partying, but when he is not he is so put together. Kate is not fit to be queen.
Are you honestly blaming HER for HIS partying? Come on - he's a grown man, he can decide when to stop drinking.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:35 PM
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Are you honestly blaming HER for HIS partying? Come on - he's a grown man, he can decide when to stop drinking.
No but I'm saying he becomes crazier and more of a party animal when he is around her.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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On thefashionspot a poster who had a connection to St. Andrews when William went there said that Kate was one of the last girls he tried to court cause so many others turned him down, including her friends...

I think Kate has a big picture in her mind...and it includes keeping her man...I didn't know he had such a rep. for being kinda bratty and hard to deal with but some things posted there are pretty interesting...
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:11 PM
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I Dont Like This Girl For William A Think Is Ambicius And Her Mother Too
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:35 PM
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I have to agree with those who think Kate and William's leisure time is a little excessive. Of course twentysomethings enjoy clubs/bars etc but they usually indulge after working 9 to 5 Monday to Friday beforehand. William is in the army so I suppose he can say he does that although I can't help but feel he and his brother appear to get an awful lot of free time but that's just my opinion. But what does Kate Middleton do? Diana was a member of the aristocracy but before she married she looked after an american baby boy three days a week and worked in a kindergarden two days and as she said herself these were whole days! A lot a people I know in the same age group as William and Kate feel very resentful watching their louche behaviour including their £20,000 holiday in the Indian ocean this year. Most young people in this country are finding it hard to even buy their first house whilst these two spoilt youngsters are flaunting their wealth and (in Kate's case anyway) idleness in their faces. I agree with Beatrixfan in thinking that the Monarchy in Britain is seriously losing direction.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:44 PM
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I've said before that Kate always reminded me of a Hollywood starlet like Nicole Richie...where she's always out and about looking busy but never really does anything...

With her connections she could get a minimal job just for image reasons...no? I thought Jigsaw was that...but I guess it wasn't minimal enough...
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I think Kate Middleton and PW is a good match for each other. I don't think most men would want someone so needy and is not interested in anything except vacationing and waiting around for him. Most men I know want a woman with a little substance e.g. career, own life, own friends, etc. PW also seems immature and doesn't know with he wants e.g. on/off relationship. I am 25 years old also. I wouldn't date a guy who keep breaking up with me and trying to date me again over and over again. It's crazy. However to each his own.

Congradulation Kate and PW. I hope you stay together this time or next couple of on/off time. I do think the paps should stop photographing Kate Middleton. She's not royalty. She is not a celebrity. She is a private person whom the paps shouldn't care with she does on her own time. When the paps photograph Prince William, they should edit her out of the picture and therefore she can't complain.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:10 PM
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I'd be more interested to know what direction this future King has 'cos at the moment it seems his direction includes just nightclubs and knickers.
I completely agree, I guess were all going to have to wait until his 28 or 30s, till he makes a big decision like he said.
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I do think the paps should stop photographing Kate Middleton. She's not royalty. She is not a celebrity. She is a private person whom the paps shouldn't care with she does on her own time. When the paps photograph Prince William, they should edit her out of the picture and therefore she can't complain.
Well it seems that she enjoys the attention, after looking at many of the pictures they take of her, even her recent one.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:48 AM
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I Am actually on their side in this saying William does nothing is totally forgetting his Charities Army Career and Kate is like Nicole Richie forgive but that comparison seems a bit unfair
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:41 AM
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what charity or army career? Most of his charities (with the exception of Centerpoint) consists of sport-related themes where he shows up for all the fun things. His army career is in name only, unless the MOD decides to treat him like a real soldier and delegate his task into diplomacy or non-threatening posts instead of pretending he would actually earn his medals like fellow soldiers who are being deployed and killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These latest pictures only confirm how far Prince William has yet to go in term of maturity and intelligence. What exactly did he expect by partying with his on-off girlfriend whom he's been hiding since April at one of London exclusive club where paparazzi gather. Did they not expect great attention will be on them? And making a crude comparison with what happened to your dead mother is shameful.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:25 AM
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i have to admit i'm not up to speed on his charities but what's wrong with having sports oriented charities? diana was patron of the english national ballet because she enjoyed ballet. charles's interests lie in environmentalism so some of his charities are in that area. if william has interests in sports, then as long as the organizations are benefiting from his patronage then what's wrong with that? as for catherine, IF she becomes william's wife, then i'm sure she will channel her efforts into areas of interest for her.

as for comparing his situation to that of his late mother, i don't think it's shameful at all. how soon we forget that one of the underlying reasons for her death, aside from the fact that the driver was drunk, is that they were being chased by paparazzi. i find it amazing that people in the world find tidbits of information like this (pics of the 2 of them arriving or leaving from a nightclub) newsworthy enough that the media would risk life and limb, of not only themselves but of the subjects and the general public, to take a photo but i guess that's the way of the world. obviously the chance that someone could die is no reason to be careful.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:37 AM
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The thing is, their situation is unlike any other 25 year olds (with the exception of A-list Hollywood actors, who are not exptected to go back and forth from a 9-5 job every day because of the nature of their business). As evident from all of the video footage, Kate & William are hounded mercilessly.
I'm sorry but that is a major over-exaggeration. Places like Boujis and Mahiki are popular celeb spots (along with others) the paparrazzi simply hangs outside hoping to strike it lucky, sometimes they do, others they don't.

If a person chooses to go there they do so with the knowledge that they will be photographed and there will be paparrazzi there.

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How about those same paparrazzi hoards camped outside of your place of business every morning and every night if Kate works alongside of you. How about constant phone calls to your offices seeking information about Kate Middleton, your employee.
She's been "working" for months now and yet I'm fairly sure hasn't been photographed at Jigsaw. More importantly there are others who managed to hold down a job while dating Royalty without all the complaining. There are Royals out there who manage to hold down jobs without all the "harasment".

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These practical considerations are overlooked by those who condemn her for not working, which is her right, and does not necessarily speak to her character. And all the answers are so crystal clear for those who sit way up high on horses and by those who don't walk in their shoes.
William may be a prince but Kate "chooses" to walk in those shoes to use your analogy. If at anytime she finds it too much she can get out, but she chooses not to.

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They're young. They're out for a good time. Because Lord knows their lives will not be their own once the time comes for William to be Prince of Wales and later King, with Kate as his consort, which I believe most definitely is in the works.
William may be young but he'as also my future King and so far I am unimpressed. Unlike other young people out there he has a role to play and falling out of a club is not that the image most people expect or desire of their future King. We know he can have a good time, is there anything else he can do?!

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Nevertheless, when the time comes, they'll be older, will have the partying out of their systems, and will both represent Great Britain very well. I'm very pleased with William and his apparent choice of life partner.
A 25 year old woman who chooses to sponge off her parents and leads an empty life of clubbing, shopping and socialising is not what I want for my future Queen. Especially after the example of such a wonderful Queen who at a much younger age, demonstrated far better than Kate that she is one of the people.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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No but I'm saying he becomes crazier and more of a party animal when he is around her.
Uhm... have you forgotten those pics of William half-drunk copping the brazilian girl?. Or the cell pic of that blonde girl. I really,really doubt he needs Kate to party
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:19 PM
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and remember Henry Parties too....(im not doing the good prince bad prince) im just saying ......cant we just be happy for them? All views expressed by me are not meant to offend
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William may be young but he'as also my future King and so far I am unimpressed. Unlike other young people out there he has a role to play and falling out of a club is not that the image most people expect or desire of their future King. We know he can have a good time, is there anything else he can do?!
From what I've read and seen, he actually does fulfill public duties, but do you expect him to be serious and dutiful all the time? The way he unwinds is the way he unwinds, and I don't think he's going to change that until he matures as a person. Also, have you considered that he may perform a number of non-public or anonymous visits or duties? It's still possible, even in these days of cameraphones, paps, and the internet. Besides, due to heavy consumption of this kind of "journalism", you know as well as I do that William falling out of club is going to sell more papers than William visiting children in a cancer ward or opening something. Demand fed by supply fed by demand.

And QEII is a tough act to follow.

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A 25 year old woman who chooses to sponge off her parents and leads an empty life of clubbing, shopping and socialising is not what I want for my future Queen. Especially after the example of such a wonderful Queen who at a much younger age, demonstrated far better than Kate that she is one of the people.
Yes, but Princess Elizabeth grew up knowing from a young age that she was going to be Queen. Even before she was Heiress Presumtive, she was close in line to the throne (3rd after her uncle and her father, barring David's marriage and dutiful begetting of an heir) Dutifulness was inculcated in her practically from birth, not to mention those traits in her personality were stronly reinforced.

Kate was most likely raised with the expectation of a not-so-ordinary life, but I'd bet it was NOTHING like the Queen's upbringing.

Even those raised in near proximity to the Royal Family and can observe what it's like to be a royal (William's late mother comes to mind) still can have no idea what it's actually like until they experience it.

Now, my nickel...

I'm not a big fan of Kate; she strikes me as socially ambitious...it's just the impression I get of her. Whether she has feelings for William or not...well. There's just something...

I don't want the kid to get hurt; he's had enough happen to him for a lifetime. Royalty or not, he doesn't deserve to be taken advantage of by someone who may only want him for his status and not himself.

As for William, I didn't find him inarticulate so much as highly uneasy when he and his brother did the interview promoting the Concert for Diana. After all, he was very connected to his mother, and no matter how he may try on the surface to deal with the media and do interviews, deep down he may hold them ultimately responsible for her death. Irrational, but that could be it -- he, once again, was -- and still is -- a Momma's Boy. He strikes me as an extremely guarded person as it is, never mind his born role.

Speaking of the paps -- I was channel skiing not so long ago and I came upon some "news" report about Britney about something or other (I don't care to follow her antics)...and she was attempting to leave some venue in her car, her kids were in the back seat, and there were flashbulbs going off everywhere, so bright I can imagine it was difficult to see anything, almost blinding. And what if they caused her to have an accident? They'd report that she hit another motorist or pedestrian...conveniently forgetting to mention that the reason she hit someone or something is that she couldn't see for the glare of the flash cameras...predators...I could never stand to be that famous.

As for their partying ways, many 20-somethings I work around talk of hardly anything else. People of that age want to have a good time while they still can, they are a bit rudderless unless they have a strong idea of what they want to do in life, and even then, they still want to let the hair down, so to speak. Personally, I think it's more the way kids these days are raised. But then, I'm different; I got bored with the whole club scene because it was the same thing every night...yawn. I prefer to work for my living, but if I had the money that they had, I'd be off on a nice long tour of the seven wonders of the ancient world (a year at each, so I can really examine and come to my own conclusions) or go somewhere quiet (preferably with trees and water) and just decompress.

About vacation time, my job awards it due to length of service, but from 1-5 years, everyone gets 10 new vacation days a year, plus 3 personal days, 20 sick days (40 from year 2), and other permission time (Permission Morale, Permission Funeral, Permission Sick Family, etc) that carries over to the next year. It's good to have that time available when needed, but I don't make a habit of taking so much time off (we know these people -- never around when needed, you end up taking up their slack) unless I really need to do so.

I wish them well as a couple, but that's about it. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. C'est la guerre.
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It really isn't fair for them because they are royal and they are judged by what they do. They want to do normal things like go out to nightclubs, but they are not normal. They have to remember that whatever they do people will be watching.
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I, as well as many of my friends are working full time and studying, but I assure you we still have time for partying, theatres, cinemas, clubbing and whatever other entertainments we enjoy. Similarly, we enjoy nice holidays. It’s just about organizing your time well.

The problem with Kate is that she can be pictures only while she's partying. Otherwise, we don't know anything about her - she may still be working at the Jigsaw, she may have another job, she may have started her own business. As far as I know, neither Kate, nor any of her friends, relatives or colleagues (apart from the unnamed 'close sources' or 'senior royal aids') have never spoken about what she does.

I don't know what she does from 8 am to 12 am (when they usually start clubbing), so I don't reserve the right to say she doesn't do anything or is good for nothing.

One reason I wouldn't say any of those things, even if she hadn't a job at all: Kate might be aware that whatever she does right now, whatever field of work she chooses, she will be accused of 'using her Royal connections (remember the Audi?).
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