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Old 10-22-2007, 09:03 PM
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Oh the media, starting out in the tabloid sector and filtering out to the networks and specialty sectors, have definitely from the beginning tried to hijack him into marrying Kate. I don't doubt that for a second. The media has been ringing the bells for these two since 2004, declaring her first "Klosters invite" a "sure sign" of "things to come," using all the classic soap opera language. Then the couple unexpectedly and supposedly "broke up" so the media didn't know what to do, but soon figured out a solution: Spread the word of secret meetings at friends' safe houses, of not-so-clandestine encounters at parties, and feed on hopes for reconciliation. Kate's withdrawal from the Sisterhood Challenge was toted in the tabloids as "proof" that she would be with Wills again, since "Clarence House must have intervened." Kate was a marked girl in 2004 and the media does not wish to un-mark her.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:06 PM
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Even if they don't get married and Wills goes off and marries somebody else, will they still follow her around?
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:17 PM
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With or without him, at this point, she's celebrity...

even if he moves on...they'll always spin the angle of getting his past love's reaction...she'll never be left alone.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:04 AM
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They surely wouldn't expect a woman who is an unwilling participant to hunt and kill an animal if she didn't want to, but William would probably think twice about spending the rest of his life with a woman that did not support his pursuits. His parents example is very present in his life/
Certainly, if this is true, don't you think William should love her for opinions even though this is part of the royal family. How come I haven't seen or head other royal family, for example, Sophie, Countess of Wessex participate any of the activity's, like hunting, with the royal family?
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:06 AM
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With or without him, at this point, she's celebrity...

even if he moves on...they'll always spin the angle of getting his past love's reaction...she'll never be left alone.
This is true look how Prince Charles and Camilla's past tabloid speculations run off in the past, when they were married with other people and having children. The media will never change!
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:46 AM
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Sad but true im afraid PR Princess I Wish them well and hope they marry (for what my opion is worth) and As far as "Kate Haters " Go they have a right to an opinion but I Dont really listen to them, thats just me though :P
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:05 AM
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What attitudes? I rightly don't know. Sorry.
If you look at the rest of what ysbel wrote, you might find the answer to your questio; she's talking about his attitude to the press:

"But right now, I see the biggest potential mistake that William may make would come from his his ambivalence towards his very public role and the press and that has nothing to do with Charles but rather I think from growing up so close to the media frenzy that surrounded Diana. Quite frankly I think he got sick of the papparazzi long before he even knew Kate and so I think he's failed to differentiate between the legitimate press and how they can be useful to the monarchy and the people his mother associated with who definitely were not helpful to the monarchy.

I think he's going to have to unlearn some attitudes he has accumulated over the years but the transformation will not happen overnight."
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:43 AM
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if the heir to the throne can marry who he wants whether they are appropriate or not then any other royal should be allowed to do the same. The poW sent the message to his children that they should marry whoever they want come he** or high-water and let the chips fall where they may.
I feel William and harry are following the actions and advice of their father and that can't be so bad, can it?
Most people are supportive and over-joyed that prince Charles finally got to marry who he wanted to spend his life with. Not many people doubt his choice . It makes him happy and that's all that matters is the general argument about Charles and camilla. So maybe we should extend that to William. No one dare critisize camilla because the PoW loves her whether she is a right choice for Queen or not.
let's give William and his girlfriend the benefit of the doubt and accect his choices just like most people have accepted his fathers choice .
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:26 AM
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daisygoogles,

Are you really happy that Charles has found his true love or are you simply having a joke with us?
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:28 AM
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If you look at the rest of what ysbel wrote, you might find the answer to your questio; she's talking about his attitude to the press:

"But right now, I see the biggest potential mistake that William may make would come from his his ambivalence towards his very public role and the press and that has nothing to do with Charles but rather I think from growing up so close to the media frenzy that surrounded Diana. Quite frankly I think he got sick of the papparazzi long before he even knew Kate and so I think he's failed to differentiate between the legitimate press and how they can be useful to the monarchy and the people his mother associated with who definitely were not helpful to the monarchy.

I think he's going to have to unlearn some attitudes he has accumulated over the years but the transformation will not happen overnight."
Yes that's right Elspeth. Sorry I didn't see this question before.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
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daisygoogles,

Are you really happy that Charles has found his true love or are you simply having a joke with us?
It seems to make the PoW happy.
So William should follow his father and just make himself happy .
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:31 AM
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daisygoogles,

Are you really happy that Charles has found his true love or are you simply having a joke with us?
I don't understand how her genuine feelings on the matter are relevant. All she was saying is that given Charles is able to marry his "true love," there is no reason to deny William the same right. It seems logical to me. The rules should be the same for all future Heirs Apparent and Presumptive. If different rules apply for the future holders of the Heir position.... well, what kind of fairness is that?

Charles was allowed a divorce and remarriage, so divorce can no longer be a fair barrier to future Heirs. All of them in the future must now be allowed the same right. Obviously William and Kate still have a fresh slate.... no entanglements to speak of, no checkered past to haunt them, but if in the future they have any messiness, there should not be any problem. Charles has set a new precedent.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:55 PM
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I read on MSN News page that Prince William was seen again with Kate Middleton. Rumors are going on and they are saying that an engagement is coming up. Can someone tell me more about this! Thanks
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:00 PM
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I read on MSN News page that Prince William was seen again with Kate Middleton. Rumors are going on and they are saying that an engagement is coming up. Can someone tell me more about this! Thanks
Isn't he about to book out of town again for like 6 months soon?
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:26 PM
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If you look at the rest of what ysbel wrote, you might find the answer to your questio; she's talking about his attitude to the press:
Okay, thanks. When I read it, I read straight over attitudes of the press and went on thinking of personality attitudes. (Like he was arrogant, per say. That sort of thing.)
Thank you!
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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With or without him, at this point, she's celebrity...

even if he moves on...they'll always spin the angle of getting his past love's reaction...she'll never be left alone.
Too true and too sad, isn't it?
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:55 PM
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Too true and too sad, isn't it?
Probably not for her......she enjoys the perks of fame. Most people would though...

If he moves on then I doubt it will be very fun...especially if he marries someone else and then she turns into the pitiful Jennifer Aniston type...which the tabs will inevitably turn her into...
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:59 PM
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Probably not for her......she enjoys the perks of fame. Most people would though...

If he moves on then I doubt it will be very fun...especially if he marries someone else and then she turns into the pitiful Jennifer Aniston type...which the tabs will inevitably turn her into...
I didn't know she enjoyed the lime light. Then again, I don't follow her much and don't know much about her.
Oh you are SO BAD with your JA comment!
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:16 PM
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Yeah haha good one about the JA thing. But I am not sure about the "most people" liking the press attention.... maybe it's about 50/50 at the most. That kind of attention would make some including myself cringe on a near-constant basis. I think I would develop a permanent tick or something....
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:18 PM
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I know it would irritate the hell out of me! I can see where one would go Russell Crowe on a papparazzi!!
The BRF certainly has patience and poise!
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