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Old 06-19-2005, 05:18 PM
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the duke and duchess of cornwall will be the 22 of june in edinburgh

The Prince Charles, Duke of Rothesay, accompanied by The Duchess of Rothesay,
I'm sure it has been mentioned before, but can anyone tell me what all the titles Charles and Camilla possess are?

The obvious ones:
The Prince and Princess of Wales
The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall
The Duke and Duchess of Rothesay

and ...?
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I'm sure it has been mentioned before, but can anyone tell me what all the titles Charles and Camilla possess are?

The obvious ones:
The Prince and Princess of Wales
The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall
The Duke and Duchess of Rothesay

and ...?
The Earl and Countess of Carrick
The Earl and Countess of Chester
BAron and Baroness Renfrew (Thank you Dennism)
I know that the Prince of Wales is also
Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland
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and what are the female versions of those titles in english? what titles does camilla have? did she have any before getting married?
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Great job, Ennyllorac, except that it´s Baron of Renfrew. As for the Princess of Wales, her other titles include Countess of Chester, Duchess of Cornwall, Duchess of Rothesay(in Scotland only), Countess of Carrick, Baroness of Renfrew, Lady of the Isles, and Princess of Scotland. No, only Mrs. Camilla Parker Bowles since her divorce in 1995.
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Old 06-19-2005, 06:47 PM
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How do they remember all those titles?
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:17 AM
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It's Baron Renfrew, not Baron of Renfrew. British barons (and I think also Viscounts) aren't barons of anything; the barony has to do with the name, not with a place.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:32 AM
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It's Baron Renfrew, not Baron of Renfrew. British barons (and I think also Viscounts) aren't barons of anything; the barony has to do with the name, not with a place.
Thanks Elspeth for clarifying that.


Now, I went back to check the Prince of Wales titles. According to www.royal.uk.gov (The Official Site of the British Monarchy) The Prince of Wales's other titles are The Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Lord of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland and Earl of Chester.

Now my question is if he is Lord of Renfrew what is Camilla?
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:44 AM
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O, sorry, Ennyllorac, my source was wrong. I don´t know what Camilla would be called then.
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Lady of Renfrew? Just a guess, feel free to correct/ignore me on this.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:47 PM
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According to this page in the Royal Family's website

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page458.asp

his Scottish titles are Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick and Baron Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, and Prince and Great Steward of Scotland. That would make Camilla Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Carrick, and Baroness Renfrew. I have no idea if Charles's title as Lord of the Isles would make her Lady of the Isles.

My suspicion is that this "Lord of Renfrew" thingy on this page

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page391.asp

is a typo between "Baron Renfrew" and "Lord of the Isles." I've never heard of a title like "Lord of" apart from unusual ones like Lord of the Isles. In Scotland there is a title "laird of" which is equivalent, as far as I know, to "lord of," but I've never heard Charles being referred to as "laird of Renfrew." I don't know what a laird's wife would be called. Lairdess? Lady?

Iain, where are you when we need a Scottish expert?
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:47 AM
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Looks like time for a new thread, so I'll close this one.

The new thread is here:

Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall Current Events 3: June-July 2005
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