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Old 07-05-2006, 07:09 PM
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It's called free enterprise and choice.
No, it's called lying with intent to demonise someone and that's not free enterprise and choice, it's low and it's wrong.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:17 PM
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No, it's called lying with intent to demonise someone and that's not free enterprise and choice, it's low and it's wrong.
Each side had demonized each other. All have lied. All sides are guilty. If you are part of the garbage you get hit in the face with it.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
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Unfortunately people who aren't part of the garbage get hit in the face with it too. As you said in your previous post, it's called free enterprise, and people who care more about making money than telling the truth aren't choosy about who they attack.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:07 AM
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I too, no longer bother with The Royalist. In my opinion, it is a very pro-Diana site, and anyone who isn't a Diana fan, is shot down in flames. Some people just can't seem to accept that Diana died years ago, and show their bitterness and total lack of respect by making nasty comments about Prince Charles and Camilla.
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Old 07-06-2006, 05:39 AM
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It's called free enterprise and choice. Everyone does not perceive things as others and are free to express their opinions. If public figures can't stand up to scrutiny and critcism, they should cease being public figures.
No, it's not. I studied law and trained as journalist after finishing university, so I have quite a good knowledge of the idea behind the laws for the press. Even though the UK has its own laws which are in some parts not as protective as ours, I still think that what the author at the royalist.com does is way too much in terms of correctness. It's not her facts that I'm critizising but they way she combines it with innuendoes, heresay and interpretations.

It's exactly what the mods on this forum try to stop here, with great success, IMHO - the royalist does not play according to the rules but plays dirty. That's different from having a different opinion and expressing it. For me, that's the difference between journalism and negative propaganda. And you may believe me, as a German and graduate in history of media law I know a lot about Propaganda (as introduced to the world at large by Dr. Goebbels of the nazi government of Germany, 1933-1945).
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:20 AM
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You really think so? Do you think they have the time or the wish to be informed so that it's worth their time/money to be updated on the internetter's opinions? Okay, these forums are a nice place to keep informed about their cousin's doings and the forums are well administered, so at least these pages here may make for an interesting read but still I don't see someone scanning this forum for TRH's need for information.
I should imagine that they have friends who have a look and of course the whole PR team. As was shown, it is always advisable to have a rough idea what people are saying and how they are reacting.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:15 AM
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I should imagine that they have friends who have a look and of course the whole PR team. As was shown, it is always advisable to have a rough idea what people are saying and how they are reacting.
Like LiW, not everyone expects remuneration.
Well, we'll never know...
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:05 AM
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I couldn't be more proud to be patron at Llangollen

PRINCE Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall delighted visitors when they flew into the International Eisteddfod yesterday.

The couple were given a rousing welcome at Llangollen's Royal International Pavilion, as temperatures soared.

http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:27 AM
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Each side had demonized each other. All have lied. All sides are guilty. If you are part of the garbage you get hit in the face with it.
So it's alright for The Royalist to print pure fiction and pass it off as fact? To me, that's illegal and I'd love to see their ridiculously biased site shut down.
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:29 AM
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Charles and Camilla visit Rhossili Village Hall on July 4, 2006 in Middleton, Gower, Wales.



and during a visit to Cardigan Castle and the Garrison Chapel in Pembroke Dock on July 3, 2006






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Old 07-06-2006, 11:39 AM
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Camilla looks wonderful in the blue but usually she wears two small flower brooches with this outfit. Now, I'm pretty sure that I saw the Queen wearing them when she visited that museum with a sculpture of Camilla in. I'm off on a picture hunt.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:06 PM
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Let's get off the subject of The Royalist, please. People who don't like what they have to offer can just ignore them; people who do like what they have to offer are welcome to share facts from there with the other members here, but we aren't going to tolerate journalistic innuendo and schadenfreude masquerading as fact, whether it comes from The Royalist, The Sun, The Mirror, The Times, or any other source.

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Old 07-06-2006, 02:02 PM
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Camilla looks wonderful in the blue but usually she wears two small flower brooches with this outfit. Now, I'm pretty sure that I saw the Queen wearing them when she visited that museum with a sculpture of Camilla in. I'm off on a picture hunt.

When you mentioned it, I also remembered those brooches and searched my files and found this picture of Camilla (her recent visit to Lloyds). The brooches are very alike but they are not the same, unless you were talking of different ones.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:14 PM
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I couldn't be more proud to be patron at Llangollen

PRINCE Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall delighted visitors when they flew into the International Eisteddfod yesterday.

The couple were given a rousing welcome at Llangollen's Royal International Pavilion, as temperatures soared.

http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/...name_page.html
Yeah, "my darling wife" is back again...:)

Avalon and BeatrixFan, are you sure with the brooch? Camilla´s seems to be shamrocks, the Queen´s flowers...
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:53 PM
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I just found this on abaca-press

Lady Lieutenant of Powys Mrs Legge Bourke curtsies for the Prince of Wales during his visit to Cwmdu Church in Wales Primary School near Crickhowell in Powys, UK on July 6, 2006.
Who is this and what she is doing?
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Let's get off the subject of The Royalist, please. People who don't like what they have to offer can just ignore them; people who do like what they have to offer are welcome to share facts from there with the other members here, but we aren't going to tolerate journalistic innuendo and schadenfreude masquerading as fact, whether it comes from The Royalist, The Sun, The Mirror, The Times, or any other source.
If Skydragon is right and RFs have someone watching the internet for them, be it PR-employee or friend, then yoour aabove statement is exactly why these forums are quite the good place to look - I'm again and again astonished about the sheer amount of reliable facts, pictures and links which are to be found here! Plus you really do a great job at moderating, even though I am one whose postings get reviewed and deleted occassionally.

About the word "Schadenfreude" - is it really a word used in the English language? - for I was seeking for a translation but didn't come up with something suitable except combinations like "enjoyment of other's mistakes" which isn't exactly what the word in German says, as the interesting lingual aspect is the combination of the negative "Schaden" (which means "damage" or harm" - in any case something serious and hurtful) with the positive word "Freude" which contains something innocent and joyful in its meaning. Through this combination it mirrors the character of the person and describes much more than just amusement about other peope's unhappiness. Maybe "malicious joy" is a suitable translation. Or, well, "schadenfreude"! :)
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:57 PM
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I just found this on abaca-press

Lady Lieutenant of Powys Mrs Legge Bourke curtsies for the Prince of Wales during his visit to Cwmdu Church in Wales Primary School near Crickhowell in Powys, UK on July 6, 2006.

Who is this and what she is doing?
A relation of "Tiggy"Legge-Bourke, the former nanny of William and Harry, who is said to be a friend of the prince and Camilla?
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:00 PM
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It's Tiggy's mother I believe and she's doing the very clever manoeuvre of kissing him on both cheeks and then dropping an extremely low curtsey. When you see it, it looks extremely elegant but it doesn't come off well in photographs.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:31 PM
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About the word "Schadenfreude" - is it really a word used in the English language? - for I was seeking for a translation but didn't come up with something suitable except combinations like "enjoyment of other's mistakes" which isn't exactly what the word in German says, as the interesting lingual aspect is the combination of the negative "Schaden" (which means "damage" or harm" - in any case something serious and hurtful) with the positive word "Freude" which contains something innocent and joyful in its meaning. Through this combination it mirrors the character of the person and describes much more than just amusement about other peope's unhappiness. Maybe "malicious joy" is a suitable translation. Or, well, "schadenfreude"! :)
It's one of those somewhat untranslatable words, which is why I staged a cop-out and left it in the original German ; it's one of those things that you know it when you see it, though. I was rather struck, looking at the Royalist site the other day, by the number of comments (not in the actual articles so much, but in the blog-type comments underneath them) about how the Wales marriage isn't doing well and Camilla's not making a success of her new position, with all the "poor Camilla, what a shame for her" stuff, written by people who are so clearly dying for Camilla to be having these problems in real life and who would be purely delighted to find that she was thoroughly unhappy. We occasionally get people indulging in that sort of dishonest spite here, but not very often, I'm pleased to say; as you pointed out, it doesn't reflect very well on the person writing it. I think the format there, with the ability to write comments underneath an article, lends itself to that sort of thing somewhat more easily than a threaded board like this.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:32 PM
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It's Tiggy's mother I believe and she's doing the very clever manoeuvre of kissing him on both cheeks and then dropping an extremely low curtsey. When you see it, it looks extremely elegant but it doesn't come off well in photographs.
It certainly doesn't. It wasn't clear whether she was trying to strangle him or doing something thoroughly X-rated.
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