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Old 06-09-2006, 03:36 PM
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Thanks, fanletizia. I waited for these pics. I´m glad Camilla took part at the reception and wasn´t to bad. She is very professionally.
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:42 PM
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Love the outfit! Thanks for the photos fanletizia.

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How could this happen again? Some bad news for Prince Charles and Camilla. Some people question the validity of their marriage again. :(
Here's another story link about it.
http://www.pr-inside.com/marriage-do...illa-r7751.htm
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:55 PM
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Why don´t they leave them alone? Why they are so much against the marriage? Charles is so much happier and easier now and Camilla, too. Isn´t it good for all? And the goverment did give the agreement, didn´t they? The church gave the blessing, where is the problem?
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Old 06-09-2006, 05:05 PM
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Hopefully this won't turn into a even bigger thing.:( God forbid anyone takes it to court.

Why didn't they just get married in Scotland? Nobody questions Anne's second marriage.

Does anybody know the history/significance of Camilla's bracelet? I know an article from Hello magazine in 1997 had an article on it, sadly I can't find it online and I lost the ebay auction.
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:20 AM
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The British public have a rightful interest in the marital status of their future sovereign.

Civil marriages were introduced in England by the Marriage Act 1836. Section 45 said that the act "shall not extend to the marriage of any of the Royal Family". The provisions on civil marriage in the 1836 act were repealed by the Marriage Act 1949.

The whole point is that a clause in the 1949 Marriage Act states: "Nothing in this act shall affect any law or custom relating to the marriage of members of the royal family." Laws or customs relating to marriages of the Royal Family were unaffected.

If The Church of England recognizes and blesses civil marriages of divorcees, the problem lies with Camilla's former husband still alive and with Charles being the future King.

Marriage in Scotland could have been a solution, but may not be recognized in England and Wales. Charles IS The Prince of Wales and The future King of England.
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:01 AM
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IMO Charles will do everything possible to defend his marriage. It´s his/their human right! Much worther is a king with a mistress. And if the marriage should be illegal, he won´t hide Camilla anymore. They will go on like yet .And that´s right. And he should not renounce the throne. You can´t expect William the reign now. He is a young man, he has the right to live his life!
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:16 AM
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The royals are above human rights, they have theirs owns.
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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The passage from the 1949 Act (“Nothing in this Act shall affect any law or custom relating to the marriage of members of the Royal Family”) logically cannot preserve a ban that never existed and plainly does not refer back to the 1836 Act since the latter was not “a law, relating to the marriage of members of the Royal Family.
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Old 06-10-2006, 11:22 AM
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The passage from the 1949 Act (“Nothing in this Act shall affect any law or custom relating to the marriage of members of the Royal Family”) logically cannot preserve a ban that never existed, and plainly does not refer back to the 1836 Act since the latter was not “a law . . . relating to the marriage of members of the Royal Family.
Presicely! :)
All this talks emerged again from the lack of news, imo. They can't do anything, can they? Prince Charles and Camilla have already married and nothing they do or say will change that.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:23 PM
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In 1836 it was specifically stated that the provisions of the Act did not apply to royal marriages. The 1949 Act was less specific, but in the post-war period, three royals—Princess Margaret, the Earl of Harewood and Prince Michael of Kent—have been told they could not marry divorced people and the Act did not permit them to marry in a civil ceremony. No member of the royal family has ever contracted a civil marriage in Britain.

On this occasion, the Lord Chancellor, Lord Falconer, overturned all precedent and declared that it was legal for Charles to marry in a civil ceremony under the 1949 Marriage Act. When this was challenged by leading constitutional lawyers, family law experts and former Attorney General Sir Nicholas Lyell, Falconer appealed to the recently enacted Human Rights Act which guarantees all British citizens the right to a family life.

Ironically, it is a law that Charles, in a letter to the previous Lord Chancellor, denounced as “a threat to sane, civilised and ordered existence,” and which the government itself has set aside when the rights of asylum seekers and terror suspects were concerned.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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The marriage of Charles and Camilla is unlikely to produce any offspring, but should the princes William or Harry need to remarry; the legal botch could put the legitimacy of an heir to the throne in jeopardy.


“Above all things our royalty is to be reverenced and if you begin to poke about it you cannot reverence it,” as Bagehot so perceptively noted.


The royal wedding may have passed off safely in so far as it was a private contract between two individuals, but as an act of state, the whole event is indicative of a deep malaise within the British parliamentary system and points to the existing form of rule decaying.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:35 PM
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...217999,00.html
another link to this story
its a shame this is all coming out, they seem so happy with each other. its as if Charles is a new man Camilla makes him so happy. i hope this is just another attempt to stir things up and it'll fade away.
what do the people on the street in England think, are they talking about it or just ignoring it?
i must say as a huge Diana fan it took me awhile to warm to Camilla but after all this time and the princes affection for her, her openness and ready for anything appearences she's won me over. i wish they could just be happy and left alone.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:20 PM
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what do the people on the street in England think, are they talking about it or just ignoring it?
i must say as a huge Diana fan it took me awhile to warm to Camilla but after all this time and the princes affection for her, her openness and ready for anything appearences she's won me over. i wish they could just be happy and left alone.
I can't speak for everyone but, IMO, most people in the UK are happy for them. Despite all the tabloid headlines at the time of the wedding, a lot of ordinary people had no problem with them getting married. people have realised that she is the perfect wife for Charles and she has been winning people over, as you say, with her open and friendly character and a charm that has nothing to do with being 'dressed up'.

Are they all talking about this article in The Times, not really, apart from saying 'for goodness sake, leave them alone'. :)
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:21 PM
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Presicely! :)
All this talks emerged again from the lack of news, imo. They can't do anything, can they? Prince Charles and Camilla have already married and nothing they do or say will change that.
As you say Avalon, a slow news week.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:39 PM
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The marriage of Charles and Camilla is unlikely to produce any offspring, but should the princes William or Harry need to remarry; the legal botch could put the legitimacy of an heir to the throne in jeopardy.
Why Their fathers marriage has no effect on their parentage. If William or Harry marry, divorce and remarry, Williams 1st born male child will be the heir, unless he only has girls.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:45 PM
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God bless the brits, glad to hear it! thanks for the info skydragon
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:24 PM
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As you say Avalon, a slow news week.
A very slow news week, as it seems...
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The behaviour of allowing Prince Charles to marry a divoursee will be regarded as a step of modernise the monarchy which is very important. The monarchy should be modernised or catch up the social changes. For me, all tragedies such as the 1936 crisis, Princess Margarete's marriage, Anne's first marriage, Charles's first marriage are all related with the restrictions of royals marrying their loved ones. Even they are royals, I respect their basic human rights such as marriage freedom. The document was presented about 10 years ago and time to make a new decision. I support the government's decision.
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:51 PM
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Basically I think it comes down to the fact that John Major was a staunch supporter of Diana and any advice his government provided was going to be slanted so that it appeased the Di-hards and made it seem impossible for Charles to marry Camilla.
As far as legislation is concerned, virtually every civilised country has implemented Human Rights or Equal Opportunity legislation which makes it illegal to discriminate against a person because of Age, Sex, Religion, Marital Status, Sexual Preference, Occupation, etc. In the case of the Marriages Act and other legislation Charles could justifiably claim that he was being discriminated against because of his birthright. IMO this is illegal.
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Exactly my thoughts about the modernization of the monarchy.
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