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Old 01-22-2009, 03:52 AM
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I recall that there were cases when pics which were stolen were not published, only described in articles. So I guess the media does at least a bit of checking into the provenance of material they are about to buy and publish. So I guess whoever sold this video could convince a lawyer that he had a claim to it: let's see who it was....
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:30 AM
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I just wish that Prince Harry hadnīt licked a fellow officer on the face, whether it was just fun or drunken revelry or whatever, I just wish he hadnīt, or at least that it hadnīt been caught on camera for everyone to see.
Perhaps I should put this another way, I would have preferred not to know about it.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:23 AM
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Is that criminal in and of itself? Doesn't it have to be knowing? (If it was sent anonymously, they couldn't know it was stolen.) And if it was transmitted electronically, I don't think it would fall under such laws.
Apparently, the 'person' was paid a 4 figure sum, which means it wasn't anonymous. The only law I think they could apply is copyright theft, which includes information transmitted electronically.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:48 AM
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Is that criminal in and of itself? Doesn't it have to be knowing? (If it was sent anonymously, they couldn't know it was stolen.) And if it was transmitted electronically, I don't think it would fall under such laws.
I think I'll take a wild punt and say there is a snowball's show in hell that they didn't 'know" they were dealing in misappropriated, purloined or just plain stolen goods.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:46 AM
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I doubt the same papers will be debating the use of questionable sources with the same vitro and vigor as with the content of the video.

Didn't one of WOTW editor already got jailed for hacking palace voice mails?
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:08 PM
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It doesn't mean he's bi. Guys and girls my age often behave a little too affectionately with our friends when we're drunk!
Well I'm close to Harry's age and I've seen alot of straight guys and alot of gay guys and that's not an affectionate drunk lick in my view, that's a bit of Royal rrrrrrrrromance.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:32 PM
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Well I'm close to Harry's age and I've seen alot of straight guys and alot of gay guys and that's not an affectionate drunk lick in my view, that's a bit of Royal rrrrrrrrromance.
I value your opinion BeatrixF.... I canīt stop wishing that he had been more careful when cameras are around and he must know by now there are always cameras around him...the curse of being royal. There are lots of perks as well though .
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:52 PM
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Indeed. The whole video incident was a pretty stupid mistake on Harry's part (the most recent in a long line what with the weed use, the underage drinking, the Nazi thang and now this). It doesn't do him any favours at all, then again has he really done anything out of kilter? He used dope, who hasn't? He drank in a pub before he was 18, who hasn't? He wore a Nazi uniform - most people haven't. And he got over-friendly with another guy, who hasn't? Problem is he's a Prince and mud sticks.

I think it's a testament to the incident that whenever Prince Harry is mentioned by a drag queen here in London, the audience bursts into a new twist on Katy Perry, bellowing "He kissed a boy and he liked it". But then we're bitches so who knows?
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You always manage to make me laugh Beatrix.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:06 PM
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Indeed. The whole video incident was a pretty stupid mistake on Harry's part (the most recent in a long line what with the weed use, the underage drinking, the Nazi thang and now this). It doesn't do him any favours at all, then again has he really done anything out of kilter? He used dope, who hasn't? He drank in a pub before he was 18, who hasn't? He wore a Nazi uniform - most people haven't. And he got over-friendly with another guy, who hasn't? Problem is he's a Prince and mud sticks.
Ya I agree on that and I agree he should have been careful but I also don't think when he taped he couldn't have ever imagined it would have been leaked somehow but another life lesson for him, just another step in growing up.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:09 AM
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Ya I agree on that and I agree he should have been careful but I also don't think when he taped he couldn't have ever imagined it would have been leaked somehow but another life lesson for him, just another step in growing up.
It's really sad lesson though: no matter how hard he tried, he can't be "normal". Before anyone jump all over me about the P-word, I'm referring to the act of his cutting up on a friend's video camera, not the specifics that followed. Harry is expected to be down-to-earth and mix with people from all walks of life, while at the same time setting-an-example.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:02 PM
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It's really sad lesson though: no matter how hard he tried, he can't be "normal". Before anyone jump all over me about the P-word, I'm referring to the act of his cutting up on a friend's video camera, not the specifics that followed. Harry is expected to be down-to-earth and mix with people from all walks of life, while at the same time setting-an-example.
True and it is sorta sad that he's expected to do all of those things and then when he has a minor slip up the whole world jumps on him. I have acknowledged that he should have more careful yes what he said was wrong etc but I still...
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:39 PM
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Harry is caught between two worlds, and he must straddle both for the rest of his life. He will never be fully in one or the other and must work out for himself how to strike a workable balance, being one of his fellow officers but somehow maintaining the distance that is necessary since, as Incas observed, he is expected to set an example.

Unlike William, he hasn't had an ultimate job marked out for him since birth and has a swarm of protectors watching over every aspect of his life; I suspect the plans for his coronation have already been finalised and filed in the cabinet that contains the plans for HM's funeral, Charles' coronation & funeral, etc. Yet, until his brother has at least one legitimate child, there is always the possibility that the full burden will fall on Harry. When William has an heir or two, that pressure will be off Harry but he will still unable to live the life of an ordinary person.

Andrew's situation is analogous, but Harry was born into a more egalitarian society, and a more demanding and intrusive and less forgiving one which is less in awe of its Royals and requires them to be more accountable than they were even 25 years ago. The miracles of modern technology enable the whole world not only to be instantly kept informed of his daily activities, but also to witness him making his mistakes years after he makes them.

And he is one of the sons of The People's Princess, a legacy which, I think, carries with it extra burdens and expectations.

I don't envy Harry, but I like him and therefore I am prepared to forgive him quite a bit.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:32 PM
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I was travelling in Asia for a few weeks and shocked about the headlines that Harry produced. Unfortunately here is a young man, second in line to the british throne at some point, who doesn't seem to reflect his actions at all and it has a devastating image impact. Unfortunaltely, there are probably racist tendencies in any country, any army but how grossly negligent for a royal to allow himself to be associated with it!!!

So the articles in the newspapers basically all said the same, that Harry is only going with his family's tradition: The Queen Mother was racist, hated Germans, a racist interpretation can be given to many of the Duke of Edinburghs' quotes, and now it's Harry, going as a Nazi to a costume party or using the P word, a rude assault in the UK, when being filmed by his buddies. Once people get an idea, the image sticks and even Charles is being dragged into the discussion because of a friend's nickname.

I don't know if Harry is racist or not, I assume he's only careless but those around him should urgently tell him that such behaviour, and it's not a one-off anymore, could mean a massive damage to the Royal Family's achievements, especially Prince Charles's.
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From the Sun:

Dumped ... but Harry survives dunking

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PRINCE Harry has survived another dumping — this time by a terrifying helicopter crash simulator dubbed the Dunker. Harry, 24 — newly split from Chelsy Davy, 23 — was strapped in the steel box before it was dropped 50ft into a tank of deep water.
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Anyone who travels in a Helicopter out to the Oil Rigs has to undergo this training and yes some people fail this simulated crash. But... I think The Sun is being a little over dramatic with their - "Some go to pieces" - "not uncommon to see people flip out inside it". Oh if only I had been a boy!

As for "survives", I don't recall anyone not surviving, that's what the divers are there for!
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. . . . . As for "survives", I don't recall anyone not surviving, that's what the divers are there for!
Don't be such a spoilsport Sky . . . . . you know we all absolutely had to read that article to satisfy ourselves that our golden/ginger boy had, against almost insurmountable odds, survived!

(how much is a subscription to that rag?)
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Anyone who travels in a Helicopter out to the Oil Rigs has to undergo this training and yes some people fail this simulated crash. But... I think The Sun is being a little over dramatic with their - "Some go to pieces" - "not uncommon to see people flip out inside it". Oh if only I had been a boy!

As for "survives", I don't recall anyone not surviving, that's what the divers are there for!
I know! The Sun is such a rubbish paper. I was a bit ashamed of linking that story but it's the only 'update' we've had on Harry's training.
Rest assured, I always carry my buckets of salt when venturing on that website.
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A Prince Harry impersonator says he has been plagued by crowds of screaming girls following the split between the young royal and Chelsy Davy.

Prince Harry impersonator 'in hiding' after Chelsy Davy split - Telegraph
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Who could help but like Harry. I don't agree with everything he does and says, but IMO he's a nice guy.
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