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Old 01-27-2013, 09:32 PM
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Eyeroll necessary? Not able to participate in polite discussion? Ever heard of freedom of speech? Perhaps Forums are not for you, you are acting like those with the mob mentality you claim to detest.

Harry is my favorite royal but like Giraffe says: He is very human and has faults, period. If you don't have the same view of his faults as I do. Fine, no need to spit your dummy and have a tantrum. RESPECT is the key.
Freedom of speech protects people from facing legal repercussions from the government for their speech, it doesn't protect them from facing criticism, nor is facing the mild disapproval of a fellow forums poster a free speech issue in any way, shape or form.

As I've stated before- you're entitled to your opinions, just as I'm entitled to believe that the response to a rather rigorous interview Harry was forced to give immediately after a long deployment before he even had a chance to catch his breath and see his family has been incredibly cruel and intrusive and that the comments on his character have been very malicious.

I also hate it because personally, as a fan of the royal family, I very much enjoy it when they give interviews and share access with the press, and I understand that incidents like this one mean they'll likely limit press access even more than they already do.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:52 PM
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Freedom of speech protects people from facing legal repercussions from the government for their speech, it doesn't protect them from facing criticism, nor is facing the mild disapproval of a fellow forums poster a free speech issue in any way, shape or form.

As I've stated before- you're entitled to your opinions, just as I'm entitled to believe that the response to a rather rigorous interview Harry was forced to give immediately after a long deployment before he even had a chance to catch his breath and see his family has been incredibly cruel and intrusive and that the comments on his character have been very malicious.

I also hate it because personally, as a fan of the royal family, I very much enjoy it when they give interviews and share access with the press, and I understand that incidents like this one mean they'll likely limit press access even more than they already do.
That is fine Hermione, I like that you have different opinions to me, and I don't mind being called to attention when I am off mark but I do mind the way in which it is done.

I confess I do not consider myself a fan of the RF. And although a firm Australian republican, I do like Henry, and because of that I get disappointed when he falls short of my "high morals" as some have described. IMO he is the most promising member of the family but seems to be unable to breakthrough the hurt and conquer his hatred for the media. Trouble ensues as we are witnessing right now.

BTW, my comments and concern for the military were just that and not a judgement on what Henry said (although I do think he could have been more guarded...). IF any of the military took offense I do hope they know they are valued, that was all.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:57 PM
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All will be well in the media once Harry get back to his official engagements. The journalist that's being hard on him now, will be drooling over him at the engagements.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:26 PM
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So what is the old boy up to these next five weeks? Anyone know?
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:05 AM
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My guess he will get back to focusing on his charities and embark on some official engagements.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:59 AM
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So what is the old boy up to these next five weeks? Anyone know?
No ones knows. He had a welcome home party this weekend and I imagine he wants to do nothing for at least two weeks of his 5.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:38 AM
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Well, he said he works hard and parties hard, so my guess is that, since he has just finished working hard, he will party hard for a bit.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:42 AM
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I'm betting he'll be doing his hard partying behind closed doors so we don't get to see him at it. At least I hope so. Not holding my breath though.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:17 AM
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I'm betting he'll be doing his hard partying behind closed doors so we don't get to see him at it. At least I hope so. Not holding my breath though.
I'm not sure that what he does is exactly "partying". We have no idea about how he feels at the moment. In his last interview it seemed his spirits were a bit on the low side.

IMHO he has just experienced what he had wished he could but hasn't found what he was looking for. He was still "Prince Harry" to some other soldiers. He's now back in Britain, more the prince than ever now he is "hardened" by war and gets older, he is to become an uncle, so probably even in his own perspective is moving up one generation.

And he killed and has yet to make his own inner peace with that - and for a son of Charles that may take a while, for I don't believe he is such a simpleton when it comes to morals and conscience. As it was said by this American colonel in the Mail: Harry was the gunner of the Apache helicopter. He fired the missiles and he saw how this action not only killed people, but has been "blasting them to smithereens."

Maybe it's because I was born in the early 60ties in Germany. I recall seeing a lot of invalids as a child. I saw my father and some of his friends suffer from the guilt they felt on having been soldiers in the war. My, I only learned after his death (as did his wife, my aunt) that one uncle had been an SS-officer who had done atrocious things. I never liked him but I know he felt regret. For what I cannot say, maybe even for having lost the war? but it was clear to me that he was a somehow broken man.

Harry, too, will find out he's changed. War does that to you. And he'll need time to adapt to that knowledge.

I'm not sure we have ever seen the "real" Harry. We don't know how much trauma his mother's death left in him. What it really was that made him decide on becoming a soldier. The wish for once to be "one of the boys" which is only to be had in the military? But - as he just found out, it's not to be had even there. Still some "gawked" at him, he said. Still some (and there will always be some there) saw him as "Prince Harry" and not "Captain Wales". And this at the most extreme place a man can go: a soldier actually serving in a war zone. Not a Royal visiting the troups, but one serving there like the others.

He gave the ultimative sacrifice to his country besides his life: he lost his innocense on killing. And he talked honestly about it and about his experiences.

The result: the media grilled him and made him a laughingstock for their readers who have no idea what Harry actually went through.

I believe Harry will do a lot of thinking now. He will grow up now and must try to come to terms with his being a prince. His brother was lucky: he found a princess to share his ivory tower with it and she brought a loving family along. He still lives in the Royal ivory tower but with enough people to feel comfortable.

Let's hope Harry will find his own solution to the questions of his life.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:39 AM
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I'm not sure that what he does is exactly "partying"
I'm confused - Henry had a welcome home party this weekend. If that wasn't partying, what is it?
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:45 AM
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I'm confused - Henry had a welcome home party this weekend. If that wasn't partying, what is it?
Normally "partying" means having too much to drink, having a bit over the top fun etc. What Harry had this weekend could be a much tamer thing, a party, yes, but not necessarily including "hard partying". Just wanted to say: we don't know. He could have been sitting there, talking to friends while listening to (okay, it was reported: loud) music. I just wanted to pint out that we don't know enough about Harry to know what kind of entertanment he had.
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We don't know, but we can estimate given Henry's previous antics. Papers reported he stayed the night and went home at 10am the following day. If you can't party 'hard' at a welcome home party, when can you? I think Henry's learnt from Vegas to party hard behind doors.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:36 AM
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We don't know, but we can estimate given Henry's previous antics. Papers reported he stayed the night and went home at 10am the following day. If you can't party 'hard' at a welcome home party, when can you? I think Henry's learnt from Vegas to party hard behind doors.
Exactly!

From my memories of parties with Vietnam vets, I'm impressed that he was conscious at 10 am, much less well enough to go home then. He deserves to party, and to party hard, and long. I just hope we don't see any evidence of it. I hope he has learnt that much.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:42 AM
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I will be very grateful if someone will tell me where I can find the full interview on his return from Afganistan with prince harry -both in text and in video?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:56 AM
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I will be very grateful if someone will tell me where I can find the full interview on his return from Afganistan with prince harry -both in text and in video?
Video - , I doubt you'll find the text anywhere.
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I'm betting he'll be doing his hard partying behind closed doors so we don't get to see him at it. At least I hope so. Not holding my breath though.
Lets not forget the last party he had "indoors"

Hopefully he will be able to enjoy himself, and everything will remain private
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Normally "partying" means having too much to drink, having a bit over the top fun etc. What Harry had this weekend could be a much tamer thing, a party, yes, but not necessarily including "hard partying". Just wanted to say: we don't know. He could have been sitting there, talking to friends while listening to (okay, it was reported: loud) music. I just wanted to pint out that we don't know enough about Harry to know what kind of entertanment he had.
Mmm...by this definition I have NEVER partied. And all this time I though I was a yahoo who loves to party!
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The Telegraph is reporting that Harry felt the taste for blood when called on a mission in theatre of war. The Royal Family, latest news and gossip about the Queen of England and the British Royal Family - Telegraph
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