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Old 03-03-2007, 04:12 AM
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Will the sanctimonious be sending white feathers to Clarence House?

Does the white feather symbolize something?
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:24 AM
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Does the white feather symbolize something?
During World War 1 young men who were conscientious objectors were given white feathers and called cowards. To be given a white feather is to call someone a coward.
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:32 AM
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During World War 1 young men who were conscientious objectors were given white feathers and called cowards. To be given a white feather is to call someone a coward.

Thank you. :-) Now that I know this, I can answer Warren's question.


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Will the sanctimonious be sending white feathers to Clarence House?

I should hope not.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:16 AM
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Will the sanctimonious be sending white feathers to Clarence House?
And will they be sending them from Iraq, Afghanistan or any of the other areas UK troops are fighting?
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:48 AM
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Harry's two-week holiday from the frontline...for his mother's concert

Prince Harry will make an emotional return to Britain from the Iraqi frontline to attend a memorial concert for his mother Diana at the new Wembley stadium.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:59 PM
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Depending on when the deployment actually begins wouldn't the concert fall during the rec leave?
I had thought the concert was to correlate to Diana's brithday and be be on July 1.
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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May June July two weeks rec leave August September October
Depending on when the deployment actually begins wouldn't the concert fall during the rec leave?
I had thought the concert was to correlate to Diana's brithday and be be on July 1.
When anyone is deployed to Iraq/Afghanistan or any frontline duty on a 6 month tour, they are entitled to 2 weeks R+R, which they apply for before they go. They apply for which 2 weeks they want and if they are lucky, they get it. If there are operational reasons that are unforeseen when the dates were agreed, it can and is cancelled.

The dates he has applied for are to enable him to be at the concert. I hope the media will shown a little sense and not publish the dates and time he will be in transit.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:20 PM
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Even in WWII where there was great need for fighting men, the armed forces in the United States refrained from putting all the sons in a family on the front lines. And these were not royal men! The reasoning behind it was that in the agricultural environment under which most families lived, a family would undergo undue hardship if all if its sons were killed in battle. I understand that the German forces followed the same unwritten rule until later in the war when they were losing and when they went to draft the lone remaining son, they caused an outcry among the people.

Of course there were exceptions and their stories proved the point of why the armed forces didn't want to take all a family's sons. The Fighting Sullivans were seven brothers of first generation Irish immigrants who not only were all allowed to serve on the front line, they were also all allowed to serve on the same warship. Several Naval officers objected strenously and the brothers wrote to President Roosevelt to get the decision overturned because they wanted to serve together. The President agreed and made an exception to allow them to serve on the same warship. All the brothers were killed when a torpedo hit their warboat.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:58 PM
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Even in WWII where there was great need for fighting men, the armed forces in the United States refrained from putting all the sons in a family on the front lines. And these were not royal men! The reasoning behind it was that in the agricultural environment under which most families lived, a family would undergo undue hardship if all if its sons were killed in battle. I understand that the German forces followed the same unwritten rule until later in the war when they were losing and when they went to draft the lone remaining son, they caused an outcry among the people.

Of course there were exceptions and their stories proved the point of why the armed forces didn't want to take all a family's sons. The Fighting Sullivans were seven brothers of first generation Irish immigrants who not only were all allowed to serve on the front line, they were also all allowed to serve on the same warship. Several Naval officers objected strenously and the brothers wrote to President Roosevelt to get the decision overturned because they wanted to serve together. The President agreed and made an exception to allow them to serve on the same warship. All the brothers were killed when a torpedo hit their warboat.
The real policy.
U.S. Navy Policy on Family Members Serving Together, Sole Survivor Policy
"Reference to a "Sullivan Act" in connection with family members serving in the same ship/unit is a popular misconception. The Sullivan Law of 29 May 1911 is a New York State Law dealing with firearms. Although proposed after the death of the five Sullivan Brothers, no "Sullivan Act" was ever enacted by Congress related to family members serving together. Similarly, no President has ever issued any executive order forbidding assignment of family members to the same ship/unit.
Following are nine references that describe the U.S. Navy policy toward the assignment of family members to ships since 1942, and one other article that helps explain this policy."

They are in the same regiment but different squads and William is not even done with his training. Since Harry is going to be deployed in May and come back in October. William will be done training in September so could possibly be deployed to Afghanistan.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:46 PM
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The real policy.
U.S. Navy Policy on Family Members Serving Together, Sole Survivor Policy
"Reference to a "Sullivan Act" in connection with family members serving in the same ship/unit is a popular misconception. The Sullivan Law of 29 May 1911 is a New York State Law dealing with firearms. Although proposed after the death of the five Sullivan Brothers, no "Sullivan Act" was ever enacted by Congress related to family members serving together. Similarly, no President has ever issued any executive order forbidding assignment of family members to the same ship/unit.
Following are nine references that describe the U.S. Navy policy toward the assignment of family members to ships since 1942, and one other article that helps explain this policy."

They are in the same regiment but different squads and William is not even done with his training. Since Harry is going to be deployed in May and come back in October. William will be done training in September so could possibly be deployed to Afghanistan.

I never really knew about the Sullivan Act in its entirety. Thanks kpusa1 for explaining it. But, it did give me another perspective of sending William to the battle zone, if Harry was already there. Then again, as you pointed out, Harry would be out of the zone by the time William can go. So, William can also go to the battle zone whether he is the 2nd in line.
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Time for a new thread.

Prince Harry current events 14 can be found here.

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