Prince Harry current events 16: 1 May 2007 - 16 May 2007 - Page 5

GömdNatt · #81 05-08-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth

The problem is that the media won't keep their stupid noses out of it. The more danger Harry is in, the more profit the media will make.

That's very true and also very sad. It's a shame that the media is willing to put Harry and his unit in danger just to get a story.

It's too bad they'll never change.

cowarth · #82 05-08-2007, 01:45 PM

This is no longer a UK issue it has become a global one, people all over the world are devided on weather or not Harry should be sent to fight in Iraq.

What happens to the line of succession IF GOD FORBID something does happen to Harry in Iraq?

Skydragon · #83 05-08-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cowarth

This is no longer a UK issue it has become a global one, people all over the world are devided on weather or not Harry should be sent to fight in Iraq.

What happens to the line of succession IF GOD FORBID something does happen to Harry in Iraq?

It just skips Harry of course. It will be Charles - William - Andrew etc until William has children (preferably getting married first)!

**Elspeth** · #84 05-08-2007, 04:13 PM

Well, if he doesn't get married first, it could well still be Charles - William - Andrew, depending on the relative timing of the wedding and the birth.

cowarth · #85 05-08-2007, 05:39 PM

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It just skips Harry of course. It will be Charles - William - Andrew etc until William has children (preferably getting married first)!

I phrased that wrong, what I meant to ask was what will the NEW line of succession be? I thought Anne was born before Andrew?

**Elspeth** · #86 05-08-2007, 05:46 PM

Skydragon was giving you the new line of succession. Although Anne was born before Andrew, boys take precedence over their female siblings in the line of succession even if the boys are younger. Thus, Mary the Princess Royal (daughter of George V) followed her elder and her younger brothers in the line of succession. If the present Queen had had a younger brother, he would have been king on the death of George VI.

The line of succession at the moment is Charles, William, Harry, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward, Louise, Anne, Peter, Zara, David Linley, Charles Armstrong-Jones, Margarita Armstrong-Jones, Sarah Chatto, Samuel Chatto, Arthur Chatto, The Duke of Gloucester and his descendants, the Duke of Kent and his Protestant descendants (and those with Protestant spouses), and The Earl of Harewood (descendant of Mary Princess Royal) even though the Dukes of Gloucester and Kent are the sons of younger brothers of Mary Princess Royal.

chrissy57 · #87 05-08-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth

Skydragon was giving you the new line of succession. Although Anne was born before Andrew, boys take precedence over their female siblings in the line of succession even if the boys are younger. Thus, Mary the Princess Royal (daughter of George V) followed her elder and her younger brothers in the line of succession. If the present Queen had had a younger brother, he would have been king on the death of George VI.

The line of succession at the moment is Charles, William, Harry, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, Edward, Louise, Anne, Peter, Zara, David Linley, Charles Armstrong-Jones, Margarita Armstrong-Jones, Sarah Chatto, Samuel Chatto, Arthur Chatto, The Duke of Gloucester and his descendants, the Duke of Kent and his Protestant descendants (and those with Protestant spouses), and The Earl of Harewood (descendant of Mary Princess Royal) even though the Dukes of Gloucester and Kent are the sons of younger brothers of Mary Princess Royal.

You have left out the descendents of Prince Michael of Kent.

I was under the impression that Lord Frederick and Lady Gabriella were raised as Protestants meaning that although their father forfeited his place they still have theirs.

Do you have an update on that indicating that they have converted to the faith of their mother?

cowarth · #88 05-08-2007, 07:02 PM

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Skydragon was giving you the new line of succession. Although Anne was born before Andrew, boys take precedence over their female siblings in the line of succession even if the boys are younger. Thus, Mary the Princess Royal (daughter of George V) followed her elder and her younger brothers in the line of succession. If the present Queen had had a younger brother, he would have been king on the death of George VI.

This is an archaeic and VERY out dated law and custom. Sweden changed its law with the birth of Princess Madeleine. England should do the same.

Sister Morphine · #89 05-08-2007, 07:03 PM

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This is an archaeic and VERY out dated law and custom. Sweden changed its law with the birth of Princess Madeleine. England should do the same.

But it's part of the history of England and it's probably not going to change. I think the Act of Settlement should probably go first.

And it wasn't the birth of Princess Madeleine that precipitated the change. They planned on changing it when the Queen was pregnant with Victoria, and it went into effect January 1, 1980, shortly after Carl Philip had been born. Even before their first child's gender was announced, there was a bill/law going through the Parliament to make the succession equal primogeniture.

**Elspeth** · #90 05-08-2007, 07:05 PM

Indeed. That law is way overdue for being ditched.

cowarth · #91 05-08-2007, 07:09 PM

What is the Act of Settlement?

Sister Morphine · #92 05-08-2007, 07:12 PM

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What is the Act of Settlement?

Catholics can't rule England. That's basically what it is. The heir to the throne can't marry a Catholic and convert. Any Catholic cannot be in line to the throne.

cowarth · #93 05-08-2007, 07:16 PM

Is that why prince or king _____ abdicated back in the 20s or 30s?

Sister Morphine · #94 05-08-2007, 07:17 PM

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Is that why prince or king _____ abdicated back in the 20s or 30s?

No. King Edward VIII abdicated to marry Wallis Simpson, a twice-divorced American. It had nothing to do with Catholocism.

Roslyn · #95 05-08-2007, 07:36 PM

I think both male primogeniture and the Act of Settlement are overdue for reform.

**Elspeth** · #96 05-08-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cowarth

What is the Act of Settlement?

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ght=settlement

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Is that why prince or king _____ abdicated back in the 20s or 30s?

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...sor-10245.html

Turns out that if you use the search engine, you'll find that a lot of these questions have already been answered.

cowarth · #97 05-08-2007, 08:31 PM

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Turns out that if you use the search engine, you'll find that a lot of these questions have already been answered.

Thank you for the information about the search engine.

HRH Kimetha · #98 05-09-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth

The problem is that the media won't keep their stupid noses out of it. The more danger Harry is in, the more profit the media will make.

The media right now is probably recruiting an "embedded" journalist to report on Harry to sell their paper. Any picture of Harry in a Scimitar probably will fetch a lot of readers and thus a profit.