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Old 08-15-2006, 06:51 PM
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With all due respect that's rubbish. They were too young to see what went on with Diana and bringing her up here is rather low IMO.They are young. They aren't engaged. Nowadays it's usual to have several girlfriends before marriage. In Britain, the divorce rate is rising year on year and it's more than likely that Harry or William will settle down and realise it isn't for them and ditch the old wife and get a new one.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:57 PM
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Please, let's let Diana RIP. Will and Harry are responsible for their own actions, whatever they may be. Seeing that Will is the more sensible of the two, I doubt he would have more than one girlfriend at a time. As for Harry...who knows.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:06 PM
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lol - I love the way that Harry would but William is a golden boy who would never put a foot wrong.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:08 PM
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Why are we making assumptions that Harry will cheat on his wife based on 1) pictures that were taken some time ago and 2) he isn't even married. We don't even know if he will marry Chelsy.

As for the Diana aspect...well...thats probably better left alone. I had a friend who was married to a guy (key word was married) whose father cheated on the wife all the time. He ended up doing the same. Mainly cause he saw how his mother let it slide. His brother on the other hand, who is older, saw the pain his mom went thru and appears to be quite faithful. But the key word is APPEARS.

I am sure Harry and William will date a series of women before they decide to get married.
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The point is the way Harry treats other people. He had no right to behave this way, I think it was very offensive. To some extent it shows us "real Harry". And this is the problem.
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harry is a normal boy in is age, just he is a prince but he have a life not only a title-
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:18 PM
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He had every right to behave that way. He's young, he was having a laugh with some pals and by the looks of him he'd had plenty to drink as had Natalie. Natalie is really the only one who is allowed to take offence as it's her breast he's having a good feel of and I don't hear her screaming sexual assault so I think she isn't too offended by it and probably didn't think twice.

I disagree with you Corazon, Harry doesn't have a life. He has a title and that title rules his life because it isn't just a nickname, it's a position, so whatever he does, it'll always be shadowed by his station in life. Let's remember that these photographs were never supposed to hit the press and they probably show a normal evening out and if a normal evening out with friends for Harry is getting blotto and touching each other in naughty places then who is he hurting?
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:34 PM
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harry in a person ( a young boy) with a title, he is part of a royal family, have a home's life with her parent hard, he lost his mother when he was very very young and a father ausent for many years ( I not saying that charles is ausent now), is a biy with freedon, with monay and he don't have official funtions yet, i dont not when was taken he photo, but chelsey dont is harry wife, harry was with MANY womens, and this is normal.
he have a duty with his family and with her country, of course, but he is a boy with truobles, and ge is famous since before born, every day in his life he have a `photographer close, especially now the the celular phones.
the press is part of his life,m but he have a lfe, he is harry windsor not only HRH prince harry wales, he never will be king and he have a freedon taht william vill have for hisfelf.
The queen have a life but palce doors to intro, don't is public, but with the young generation of the family is different.

I just said, harry is a preson with a responsability with her family, he born with a title but is a person with mistakes like another one.
he don't is perfect and he is young.
harry is a royal, but is a boy like another one, he have a private life and another public, but is a person with feelings don't only a could title.
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Charles was never absent and I don't see what his parents or indeed, any member of his family have to do with it. He's got his own mind but he's constrained by his position as the spare. William is the heir, Harry is the spare. Now in the past, the spares were able to do whatever they liked and nobody mentioned it but this is 2006 and people will want to know what Harry is doing with his life. The media will let them know exactly what he's doing with his life and Harry has to be on watch 24/7 but that doesn't mean he can't let his hair down. But I still disagree, he isn't a boy like any other. He's Royal and thats his role in life.
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of course, harry is a royal and that is his role in the life, but he is a person, with sensations and feelings like another one.
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The point is the way Harry treats other people. He had no right to behave this way, I think it was very offensive. To some extent it shows us "real Harry". And this is the problem.
Anna,
we should keep in mind that the pictures were taken in 2003, not this year.
Harry was only 18 years old then, and if the pictures are any indication he was also probably totally smashed (drunk ) at the time.
Also, BeatrixFan has an excellent point: Natalie wasn't exactly fighting him off, she was obviously not offended at all. Since it's her body, she's the only one who can be upset.

In addition it should also be remembered that according to Natalie, the pictures were her own private personal photos and not meant to be shown to the general public.
Considering all these things, I think it makes the situation seem a whole lot less sordid.
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What do the other pics look like. IMO the only person looking bad in this instance is Harry. If you must grab a woman's breast...just do in the privacy of your or her home. And wouldn't you want to be Natalie's mum right now...yes that's my daughters breast on the front pages of the Sun! Bear in mind..William is drinking..as long as he isn't drinking and driving and being an arse...he turns out alright. Of course..I say that not knowing what the other pics look like.
I have the same opinion, Harry looks like the bad one here but if he did that a long time ago then there shouldn't be anything for Chelsy to worry about, although Harry has been getting some bad press lately with the other article of him kissing that other girl he used to date and now this. From what I see as an outsider it looks like a rocky road for Chelsy and Harry right now but I don't know what goes on behind closed doors so I can't say for sure. Also I don't think Kate has anything to worry about either unless we see some pictures of William kissing another girl but he was only drinking (for now).
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:35 AM
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There is an inference that the pictures were published as revenge against the Royals and against Prince Charles.
See this link:
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It makes perfect sense. The media is getting their revenge, and at the same time reminding everyone how powerful they are.

It appears that the war has begun again in the land of the Windsor Tragedy and that the Queen may have to reprimand Clarence House and both it's permanent and temporary occupants. I can only feel real sorry for Lilibet because her life during her rule has been basically scandal free, giving and taking a few incidents. But, her children and their children, especially those standing very near in line to the throne, seem to give that wonderful lady a very stressful reign. Prince Harry and William need to start being on their best behavior at all times. Even thou these photos were in the past, they did finally become today's news. What they do today may come back to haunt them in the future. Let us hope that it doesn't happen during a royal family death, abdication, marriage or ascension to the throne.

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If the pictures were taken in 2003, then Harry certainly wasn't cheating on Chelsy because he was only 18 then, and he wasn't even dating her.
Here's another link about the pictures being 3 years old....
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...src=rss&feed=1

Also, none of the pictures show William with his hands on any woman. It just goes to show how the media slants things they way they want. I fear that you're right, and the media will win the war....
Yeah, I hope he isn't cheating on her. Anyways, I also am curious as to how Kate feels about all of this?
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Anna,
we should keep in mind that the pictures were taken in 2003, not this year.
Harry was only 18 years old then, and if the pictures are any indication he was also probably totally smashed (drunk ) at the time.
Also, BeatrixFan has an excellent point: Natalie wasn't exactly fighting him off, she was obviously not offended at all. Since it's her body, she's the only one who can be upset.

In addition it should also be remembered that according to Natalie, the pictures were her own private personal photos and not meant to be shown to the general public.
Considering all these things, I think it makes the situation seem a whole lot less sordid.
I agree with you.

However, it seems like by stating that the pictures are 3 years old, the royal family expects the public to ignore Prince Harry's behavior. Iam not sure I agree with that. Anyways, I hope this all passes as Iam a VERY big fan Prince Harry's but I don't know. I think many people have come to expect these sort of things from him which might be the saddest part.
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Harry picture three years old
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...41-661,00.html

Prince not so charming
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...43-663,00.html

Harry cops a feel
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006003,00.html
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Poor William and Harry. They can't catch a break from the media!
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Ah... I see. That photo is 3 years old. So what we see is not what we got. In fact, we got got!

Here are all the usual suspects verbally wagging their finger at 'Harry's habitual lousy behaviour cheating on his girlfriend', but then, oops, he didn't after all but he is still a very bad boy!

Hello Do none of you have the grace to admit you got suckered by the press?

Three years is the difference between a boy and a man.
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