Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles 6: Feb - April 2005

[Alexandria]

Welcome to Part 3 of News and Pictures for Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles.

The previous thread can be found here: Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles 5: Nov 2004 - Feb 2005

[Reina]

DOn't know if this has been posted yet, but I believe it is quite credible.

Queen 'thinks Charles has put gratification before duty'
By Andrew Alderson, Chief Reporter
(Filed: 27/02/2005)

The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

The courtiers also say privately that the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

The Queen believes Charles has put his own interests before duty Buckingham Palace announced last Tuesday that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip would be attending the civil marriage ceremony at Windsor Guildhall on April 8 because they wanted to keep the occasion "low key".

The announcement, however, was widely interpreted as a snub even though the Palace said that the Queen and other members of the Royal Family would attend the service of dedication afterwards at St George's Chapel. The Queen is also giving a wedding reception at Windsor Castle.

The courtiers said yesterday that Prince Charles's private office had been outmanoeuvred by Buckingham Palace and that Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen's private secretary, had tried to protect her from becoming involved in a "town hall marriage" which demeaned her own status. One said: "Robin is very clever. As soon as he sensed controversy, he did what he always does and wrapped the Queen in cotton wool to make sure that she didn't get damaged by events.

The courtier said that Sir Robin's intervention was symptomatic of the Queen's long-standing concern over Charles's relationship with Camilla.

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

The courtier added that Clarence House had failed to capitalise on the largely favourable reaction to the initial wedding announcement 17 days ago. "They got off to a good start, but instead of working on it, they put their feet up and relaxed."

Some critics blame Sir Michael Peat, the Prince's private secretary and formerly the Queen's treasurer, for the growing chaos over the marriage plans, but officials at Clarence House say that this is "grossly unfair". Sir Michael, a fourth-generation accountant, is trusted and respected by both the Queen and Prince Charles.

Behind-the-scenes discussions over the wedding began at Christmas when the Prince of Wales decided he wanted his "non-negotiable" relationship with Mrs Parker Bowles to turn into marriage. The Prince of Wales sought - and received - permission from the Queen to marry Mrs Parker Bowles, as he must do by law. Later Tony Blair and Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, were consulted and both gave their approval to the marriage.

[semisquare]

is anyone plaining to watch prince charles and camilla's wedding? i cant do it because i think of how prince charles was unfaithfull to diana.

[HMQueenElizabethII]

I think we can watch it.We can see how beautiful Camilla on that day! lol

[HMQueenElizabethII]

But i'm sure that there will be lots photos of this event.Last year was the year of Frederik ana Mary, Felipe and Letizia.This year will be the year of Charles and Camilla.

[Lyonnaise]

Caption:
COLOMBO, SRI LANKA: Britain's Prince Charles (L) is escorted by Sri Lanka's Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar (R) upon his arrival at Sri Lanka's only international airport near Colombo, 28 February 2005, for a brief stop over for a first-hand look at the destruction caused by the 26 December 2004 tsunamis. Prince Charles is to head off to Australia after travelling to the eastern coastal district of Batticaloa. AFP PHOTO (Photo credit should read AFP/AFP/Getty Images)

[Lyonnaise]

COLOMBO, SRI LANKA: Britain's Prince Charles (R) walks with Sri Lanka's President Chandrika Kumaratunga in Colombo, 28 February 2005 prior to his departure from the Indian Ocean island. Prince Charles stopped over in Sri Lanka on a brief visit to inspect tsunami damages on his way to Australia. AFP PHOTO/POOL (Photo credit should read STR/AFP/Getty Images)

[Lyonnaise]

Polfoto 28-02-2005 Britain's Prince Charles is given blessings at tsunami damaged Thiruchandoor Murugan Hindu temple in Navalady, Sri Lanka, Monday Feb 28, 2005. The prince arrived in Sri Lanka early on Monday and visited various tsunami-affected areas in the eastern coast in a military helicopter. (AP Photo/Gemunu Amarasinghe, POOL)

[Lyonnaise]

More photos of Prince Charles' visit (from Polfoto)

[Australis]

Will be a great joke for some and a great insult to others seeing the "other" women finally become "legal". I feel sorry for William and Harry.

[semisquare]

moi, aussi

[Dennism]

AAP

Prince Charles has touched down in Perth for his first Australian visit in 11 years.

The heir to the throne arrived by chartered jet at Perth International Airport at 10.22pm (WST) and was greeted by West Australian Governor Lieutenant General John Sanderson and Senator Ian Campbell representing Prime Minister John Howard.

An impressive contingent of police and state security officers were assembled ahead of his arrival.

The tour will reportedly cost taxpayers $1 million.

Also on hand to greet the royal was a large number of local and international media, some of whom accompanied him on the flight from Sri Lanka where he visited tsunami devastated areas.

But there were only a couple of royal watchers at Perth's airport to greet him.

Hope Livesey, 24, from the southern Perth suburb of Coolbellup said she was excited by Prince Charles' recent engagement to long-time companion Camilla Parker Bowles.

"I came down here to watch the Queen come, I went to Government House to see Princess Anne and I actually got to meet her, so I am a bit of a royal watcher," she said.

"I'll be in London in May, I'm spewing I'll miss the wedding.

"I think he is interesting, he's got cute boys," referring to Prince Charles' sons William and Harry.

Prince Charles was on the tarmac for about five minutes before being whisked away in a motorcade to Government House.

The prince will spend a little over 36 hours in Perth before travelling to Alice Springs, Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra over the next five days.

Prince Charles will then fly on to New Zealand and Fiji before returning to the UK ahead of his April 8 marriage to Mrs Parker Bowles.

[sara1981]

Originally Posted by HMQueenElizabethII

I think we can watch it.We can see how beautiful Camilla on that day! lol

I agree with you!

I think Camilla looks more unbeautiful! but Diana was mostly more glamorous Princess than Camilla because Diana had more styles as glamorous Princess than Camilla.

but i hardly confuse Camilla would more beautiful as Duchess of Cornwall like late Diana,Princess of Wales but Diana still more powerful Princess of Wales.

Sara Boyce

[sara1981]

Originally Posted by Reina

DOn't know if this has been posted yet, but I believe it is quite credible.

Queen 'thinks Charles has put gratification before duty'
By Andrew Alderson, Chief Reporter
(Filed: 27/02/2005)

The Queen has "distanced" herself from the wedding of the Prince of Wales to Camilla Parker Bowles because she believes that her son is putting personal gratification before duty, royal courtiers have disclosed.

The courtiers also say privately that the Queen is "lukewarm" about the marriage and is worried that it could tarnish the monarchy.

The Queen believes Charles has put his own interests before duty Buckingham Palace announced last Tuesday that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip would be attending the civil marriage ceremony at Windsor Guildhall on April 8 because they wanted to keep the occasion "low key".

The announcement, however, was widely interpreted as a snub even though the Palace said that the Queen and other members of the Royal Family would attend the service of dedication afterwards at St George's Chapel. The Queen is also giving a wedding reception at Windsor Castle.

The courtiers said yesterday that Prince Charles's private office had been outmanoeuvred by Buckingham Palace and that Sir Robin Janvrin, the Queen's private secretary, had tried to protect her from becoming involved in a "town hall marriage" which demeaned her own status. One said: "Robin is very clever. As soon as he sensed controversy, he did what he always does and wrapped the Queen in cotton wool to make sure that she didn't get damaged by events.

The courtier said that Sir Robin's intervention was symptomatic of the Queen's long-standing concern over Charles's relationship with Camilla.

"The problems of the past week go back many years. The Queen believes that the Prince of Wales has put his own gratification and interests before duty by pursuing his relationship with Camilla, and she can never forgive that."

The courtier added that Clarence House had failed to capitalise on the largely favourable reaction to the initial wedding announcement 17 days ago. "They got off to a good start, but instead of working on it, they put their feet up and relaxed."

Some critics blame Sir Michael Peat, the Prince's private secretary and formerly the Queen's treasurer, for the growing chaos over the marriage plans, but officials at Clarence House say that this is "grossly unfair". Sir Michael, a fourth-generation accountant, is trusted and respected by both the Queen and Prince Charles.

Behind-the-scenes discussions over the wedding began at Christmas when the Prince of Wales decided he wanted his "non-negotiable" relationship with Mrs Parker Bowles to turn into marriage. The Prince of Wales sought - and received - permission from the Queen to marry Mrs Parker Bowles, as he must do by law. Later Tony Blair and Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, were consulted and both gave their approval to the marriage.

I have agree the articles!

im sure Prince Charles and Camilla still as divorcees! and both newly engagement couples for more over 30 years as companion and mistress since Prince and Princess Diana's marriages,separation and Diana's death in 1997

but Prince Charles not loves his former wife the Princess Diana you know why! because Prince Charles still more loves Camilla than Diana but Princess Diana told Charles about not see Camilla for years till collaspe of separation in 1992.

I remind Queen Mother said "Prince Charles not getting married to Camilla without permission of his grandmother" we had more low-profiles since Diana's death in 1997.I would more respect of Queen Mother and Queen 2 if im mistakes or correct!

Sara Boyce

[Josefine]

http://news.independent.co.uk

'All my life people have told me what to do. I'm tired of it'

By Francis Elliott


27 February 2005

It is an irony that won't be lost on the Prince of Wales. He told the BBC journalist Gavin Hewitt that his private life had become an "industry" in an off-the-record chat.

Today, Mr Hewitt is the latest to cash in using his hitherto unreported interview to paint an unflattering portrait of the heir's enduring bitterness and self-pity.

In an extract from a forthcoming book serialised in The Mail on Sunday, the BBC journalist records how he was rushed to secret meeting with the Prince in Bulgaria seven years ago.

The private conversation was supposed to provide background for a Panorama programme to coincide with his 50th birthday.

Reluctant at first to talk about his relationship with Camilla Parker Bowles, the Prince eventually snaps when asked how he would like it defined. "I don't see any reason why I should define my private life," Mr Hewitt recalls the Prince saying.

Challenged that it was a matter of public interest, he is said to have replied: "Even royals are entitled to some privacy." He continued: "All my life people have been telling me what to do. I'm tired of it.

"I thought that the British people were supposed to be compassionate. I don't see much of it. My private life has become an industry. People are making money out of it."

Hewitt says that Prince Charles said he was being "tortured" over his relationship before concluding: "I just want some peace."

The BBC journalist also claims that the Prince mocked the slimmed-down Scandinavian-style monarchy. "Those who advocate it, have they seen it? Most of those countries have a population of two million. We're a population of 60 million."

He said he had no intention of moving out of Buckingham Palace if he became King. "That's what people come to see." Institutions like the State Opening of Parliament were also defended. "It's what makes us uniquely British. It's what people come to Britain for. It's what makes us unique."

Hewitt also records the well-known anger of the Royal Family at the scrapping of the royal yacht Britannia saying that the Prince thought it a dreadful decision. "It's the Treasury. They can't see beyond a balance sheet."

The Prince is said to have noted that at the same time the Spanish were spending £12m on a craft for their royal family.

However, Prince Charles is said to believe that the monarchy could change and hinted that his reign would be less formal."After all, it's defined by the people involved. I'm forever breaking protocol."

Although nearly seven years old, Hewitt's broken confidences were seized upon by critics of the Royal Family as further evidence of the heir's self-pity. They will be unlikely to help the Prince turn round public opinion that has hardened against him in the wake of the series of bungles over his wedding plans.

A poll for yesterday's Daily Telegraph found that just 31 per cent of his putative subjects now want Charles for their king, although 62 per cent approved of his decision to marry Mrs Parker Bowles.

A spokesman for Clarence House said: "We never comment on private conversations that the Prince may or may not have had."

[Dennism]

The Age

March 2, 2005

It's great to be back: Charles
By Michael Shmith
March 2, 2005

"I can't tell you what a pleasure it is to be back here in Australia." Charles meets the public in Perth yesterday.

ON THE ROYAL TOUR

Compared with his low-key arrival on the tarmac at Perth International Airport the night before, witnessed by 35 assorted media, police and a sniffer dog called Deakin, the Prince of Wales' first full day of his Australian tour was positively crowded and full of that particular bonhomie that proves royalty is in town.

He must have had a good sleep. He arrived at the Royal Perth Hospital, the first stop in a busy one-day schedule, looking rosy-cheeked and neat in a grey suit with an Order of Australia sparkling in his buttonhole. This was later replaced by a yellow flower, signifying St David's Day - HRH would not wish to offend the Welsh, even in Perth.

At the hospital, his principal guide was Professor Fiona Wood, the Australian of the Year and director of the Western Australia Burns Service. She introduced him to staff as well as to survivors of the Bali bombing and the tsunami.

Among those he met was the footballer Phil Britten, the 25-year-old captain of the Kingsley Cats who lost seven of his teammates in Bali. They talked gently in the rehabilitation room - Britten squatting on a large yellow inflatable ball; the Prince leaning over him - of devastation, the loss of tourism, and how Britten has returned to the game: "My first game back, I broke two ribs," he said, at which Professor Wood looked slightly anxious.
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Professor Wood was all in favour of the royal visit. "It's a great morale boost," she said. "He asked about the nuts and bolts of what's happened. He's certainly done his homework."

The Prince spoke briefly at a reception for hospital staff and members of other organisations involved in the Bali and tsunami responses.

"I can't tell you what a pleasure it is to be back here in Australia, particularly Western Australia, if I may say so, and to be in good old Perth," he said. "With so many happy recollections of previous visits to this city, it really hardly feels as if I've been away at all. And yet I fear the 11 years have passed by, and look what's happened to me in the interim." A ripple of laughter and a self-deprecatory shrug from the speaker.

Next stop for the royal convoy was Fremantle's Lobster Australia, where hygienic hairnets were de rigueur, apart from the royal party, who wore matching white laboratory coats and hats. One is not sure what one should ask about lobsters: Salvador Dali made one into a telephone, and Woody Allen was terrified of them in Annie Hall. But the Prince seemed to have an endless supply of questions; even when he was introduced to a bucking 2.5 kilogram western rock lobster, he put it at ease.

He then boarded a launch to take him round to the Fremantle Maritime Museum. As we waited at Corkhill Landing, so, too, were about 150 people - the first real crowd so far. One woman said she had seen all the royals except for Prince Charles. Was this to finalise her collection? "More curiosity," she said. "I want to see him before he gets too old."

The Prince walked among his people, shaking hands. He then walked to the steps of the museum for more meet-and-greet and an impromptu command performance by one James Hagan, monarchist, of God Save the Queen.

Later, Charles visited the University of WA and an urban redevelopment in Subiaco. Last night, it was Welsh choirs and Margaret River wine at a reception at Government House. Today, he's off to Alice Springs, before flying to Melbourne.