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Old 11-09-2003, 06:42 PM
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Polfoto 08-11-2003 The Prince of Wales during the his tour of the Sultan Qaboos Mosque, Saturday 8 November, 2003. The Prince visited the huge Mosque on the outskirts of the Muscat, the capital of Oman, and will fly back to Britain tomorrow afternoon.
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Old 11-10-2003, 12:34 PM
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Charles in talks with advisers
Monday, November 10, 2003 Posted: 8:40 AM EST (1340 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Prince Charles has been talking to his advisers about the growing crisis surrounding an allegation made by a former royal servant.

The heir to the British throne flew into the UK Sunday after a trip to India and Oman and called senior officials to discuss increasing speculation about him.

But a spokeswoman at Clarence House, the prince's official London residence, told CNN that despite newspaper reports there were no plans for the prince to go on TV in an attempt to quash allegations that have appeared in the international media.

"There are no plans for the prince to make a televised statement," the spokeswoman said.

"The statement we made on Thursday still very much stands. There are no plans to take any legal action."

Injunctions prevent the UK's media revealing details of the allegation, but that did not prevent Sunday's newspapers hinting at the scandal involving a second royal servant. Charles has already denied they are true but has said they involve him.

Charles was joined for dinner at his country home, Highgrove, Gloucestershire, Sunday by his oldest son Prince William and companion Camilla Parker Bowles to discuss how to put an end to the rumors surrounding him, according to Britain's Daily Mail newspaper.

Clarence House said any such discussions were a private matter but stressed that his sons, princes William and Harry, had been "fully supportive." Harry is currently in Australia on a year-off before joining the Army.

Charles is set to remain at Highgrove Monday and Tuesday from where he will hold a series of conference calls with his senior advisers in London, including his private secretary Sir Michael Peat, his spokeswoman said.

Peat has already appeared on TV and dismissed the allegations against the prince as "totally ludicrous." (Full story)

The spokeswoman denied Monday's discussions between Charles and his advisers amounted to a "war summit" and said that Charles routinely discussed Sunday newspaper coverage with royal officials the following day.

Some of the coverage included a front page story in the Mail on Sunday, in which the paper promised in a banner headline: "World Exclusive -- Charles And His Valet: The True Story."

But the paper is careful not to name names, other than its source for the story -- former royal servant George Smith.

And it gave no specific details of an alleged incident Smith claims to have witnessed, except to say it involves a senior royal.

"There's a growing crisis," said CNN's royal commentator Robert Jobson. "Prince Charles and his staff will have to address this issue.

"There'll be constant discussions after Charles's return from Oman, and I think they are going to have to come out with a better strategy than the one with which they came out already."

On Thursday, Clarence House issued a pre-emptive statement saying he was the "senior royal" involved in the allegations and that the allegations were untrue. (Full statement)

The prince was shielded from the growing media furor during his trip to Oman over the weekend. The country's own newspapers made no mention of his recent difficulties.

As he arrived back at London's Heathrow airport, the prince ignored waiting journalists and photographers and was whisked away in a royal car.

-- CNN's Graham Jones and Diana Muriel contributed to this report
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Old 11-10-2003, 01:17 PM
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Interesting article, Julia. Thanks for sharing it. I was thinking (and Charles was probably hoping&#33 that the birth of Sophie and Edward's baby a month early (what good timing she has&#33 might sweep this story under the rug as the media and the public got swept up in the royal birth instead. But to no avail, huh?

There will have to be lots of good PR to try and quash this story. It seems like it has developed a life of its own.
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Old 11-10-2003, 03:30 PM
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please mark on Prince Charles's birthday on Nov.14th he will become 55 year old please make picture thread of his childhood til his adulthood and his sons and lots more!

tell him <span style='color:blue'>HAPPY 55th BIRTHDAY HRH PRINCE CHARLES </span>

and include Princess Diana who with him since marriage in 1981 til Diana&#39;s death in 1997 please put her in pictures thread too&#33;

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Old 11-10-2003, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Alexandria@Nov 10th, 2003 - 9:17 am
There will have to be lots of good PR to try and quash this story. It seems like it has developed a life of its own.
The "it" that has developed a life of its own could have its genesis in the whispered doubts about the queen&#39;s motives as suggested in the article below by Ken Wharfe, Diana&#39;s former security guard.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,...1067993,00.html

"But who was responsible for signing away her security? Ultimately, it must have been the Queen. That decision made the princess extremely vulnerable, and the royal family would have known that. Even without assassins, the risks attached to someone who attracted so much public and media interest were enormous. I am sure that Diana said she didn&#39;t need protection but it was a major mistake to agree. Somebody at a senior royal level and even at a senior police level should have said that for the foreseeable future they should continue a type of security that would guarantee her safety. "
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Old 11-10-2003, 07:49 PM
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There&#39;s two stories here, the one before Zhontella&#39;s post is a story of Charles alone in trying to extricate himself out of ... and like happenstances before, he will pull a rabbit out of the hat.

With Zhontella&#39;s post, comes a story of a broader scale ... at that time I was of the firm conviction that she was still alive ... however given William&#39;s desire for solitude and Harry&#39;s mischief :woot:
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Yes, King Christian is right. I was commenting on the recent story of Prince Charles and allegations by his aide of an incident, not anything to do with Princess Diana and the Paul Burrell story, which is what I think Zhontella is referring to.
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Old 11-11-2003, 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by Alexandria@Nov 10th, 2003 - 3:52 pm
I was commenting on the recent story of Prince Charles and allegations by his aide of an incident, not anything to do with Princess Diana and the Paul Burrell story, which is what I think Zhontella is referring to.
The only point I was trying to make is that the problems plaguing Charles (and the rest of the British RF) are not allegations of a rape coverup or a certain sexual preference. Those are merely weapons commonly used to discredit someone and whether or not they are true is probably irrelevant.
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Old 11-11-2003, 02:57 AM
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... at that time I was of the firm conviction that she was still alive ... however
Eh, you talking Norweigan again? That is one classy looking lady in your avatar.

I doubt Charles&#39;s problems can be isolated as distinct from the way he and the rest of that royal family have used and discarded too many people, including Diana -- thus the reference to their failure to provide her with continuing security protection. They had to know that put her at great risk.

Now when every year becomes their annus mirabilis, call it karma, or justice or whatever...............
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Old 11-11-2003, 05:56 AM
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Charles says let it drop

By PAUL THOMPSON
Royal Correspondent

PRINCE Charles has ruled out suing the ex-valet who sparked the crisis engulfing the Royal Family, it emerged yesterday.

The Prince fears former mental patient George Smith could be driven over the edge by legal action.

Friends are concerned Smith might “do a Dr Kelly”, a reference to the MoD scientist who committed suicide over allegations arising out of the war on Iraq.

Despite Charles’ fury at the ex-servant — who claims he witnessed a “compromising” incident involving the Prince — he does not want the matter taken further.

The Prince has also decided against a TV interview to put his side of the story and will “tough out” the controversy instead.

Charles, 54, and eldest son Prince William, 21, held crisis talks at their country home Highgrove yesterday to plan their approach.

The Prince’s long-term partner Camilla Parker Bowles was also at the meeting, which was called after Charles flew back to Britain from his overseas tour to India and Oman on Sunday night.

A senior aide said Charles was fearful for the fragile mental state of Falklands veteran Smith, 43, who has battled drink problems and spent time in a mental unit.

One friend said: “The Prince knows this man has suffered. Any legal action could cause him more harm and the last thing the Prince wants is for Smith to do a Dr Kelly on him.”

Scientist Dr David Kelly killed himself after he was named as the person responsible for leaking information to the press about the Government’s case for war.

Charles paid for Smith to be treated at the famed Priory Clinic and gave him a £38,000 payoff when he left the Royal Household.

Charles kept in contact with William as the scandal unfolded while he was abroad last week.

The storm broke after ex-flunkey Michael Fawcett, 40, was revealed as the person who sought an injunction to gag Smith.

It has been claimed Smith saw the alleged incident as he brought Charles breakfast to his bedroom.

William, who is spending this week at Highgrove as a break from St Andrews University, sat in on phone conferences Charles had with advisers in London.

Brother Harry, 19, in Australia on a gap year, has also been kept informed of developments.

Charles’ Private Secretary Sir Michael Peat last week dismissed Smith’s allegations as “ludicrous” and “risible” lies.

A senior source said: “The Prince has made it clear the allegations are not true. That, he feels, is an end to the matter.”

Despite the upbeat official stance Camilla was driven away from yesterday’s Highgrove conference looking pale and drawn.

She sat in the passenger seat of a black estate car holding her cherished Jack Russell terrier Freddy tight in her lap.

One onlooker said: “She looked like she had the weight of the world on her shoulders.”

A Scottish paper became the latest media outlet to print the allegation, which has been publicised abroad and on the internet but cannot be repeated in England.

The row took a new twist when former senior Palace aide Mark Bolland revealed he had been quizzed about Charles’s sexuality.

Bolland, now a tabloid columnist, claimed Sir Michael Peat asked him a year ago: “Do you think Charles is bisexual?”

Mr Bolland, 37, said the Prince was not gay or bisexual — but Charles was left furious by what he saw as a betrayal of confidence.

Another ex-valet yesterday insisted Smith’s claims could not be true because of strict job divisions in the Royal Household.

Simon Solari, who worked closely with both Charles and Princess Diana, said: “The incident could not have happened. It would not have been in George’s remit to attend the Prince or serve tea in his bedroom.”

From The Sun.
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Old 11-11-2003, 05:57 AM
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Burrell: Mistake by Royals

From BRYAN FLYNN
in New York

BLABBERMOUTH butler Paul Burrell yesterday accused Prince Charles of bungling his handling of the allegations.


Burrell – on US TV to plug his telltale book A Royal Duty – said: “The Royals are not always the best advised people.

“They have advisers all around them but they don’t often get the best advice.

“The advisers urged the Prince of Wales to make a statement and perhaps that was a mistake. Perhaps they shouldn’t have done that.

“It’s fanning the flames even more. It’s becoming an even bigger media story.”

From The Sun.
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:23 PM
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The Guardian did a good job of explaining how the continuing and various allegations against Charles are related directly back to Diana:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0...1083129,00.html

"This is why these rumours are so tenacious. They go straight back to the greatest unresolved puzzles of our time: why did someone so appreciated by the public feel pushed into such a corner, and why is there no memory of her integrated properly into the royal family&#39;s history?

For all her flaws, Diana&#39;s many people still remember her as a charismatic, well-meaning person and not a destructive paranoid. That public, trusting gut instinct, are not just after gossip. They want to know what happened to their icon. "
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Polfoto 12-11-2003 HRH Prince Charles visits The Royal Hospital, Chelsea, home of the Chelsea Pensioners, for the traditional annual Act of Remembrance in Figure Court, Wednesday 12 November 2003. His Royal Highness was joined by former Tory prime minister John Major and the local MP Michael Portillo for the solemn ceremony to remember the war dead in West London.
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Polfoto 12-11-2003 HRH Prince Charles visits The Royal Hospital, Chelsea, home of the Chelsea Pensioners, for the traditional annual Act of Remembrance in Figure Court. His Royal Highness was joined by former Tory prime minister John Major and the local MP Michael Portillo for the solemn ceremony to remember the war dead in West London.
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Polfoto 12-11-2003 HRH Prince Charles visits The Royal Hospital, Chelsea, home of the Chelsea Pensioners, for the traditional annual Act of Remembrance in Figure Court. His Royal Highness was joined by former Tory prime minister John Major and the local MP Michael Portillo for the solemn ceremony to remember the war dead in West London.
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and why is there no memory of her integrated properly into the royal family&#39;s history?
I don&#39;t know whether this is relevant but here I go: There has been a lot of talk about how Diana doesn&#39;t have a proper statue dedicated to her or some kind of memorial etc. There isn&#39;t one of the Queen Mum yet as far as I know and she is the mother of the present Queen. Her contribution to Britain, it can be argued is much more than that of Diana&#39;s, who presently is a very controversial figure. The Queen herself has just unveiled the FIRST statue of herself in Britain and she is the country&#39;s monarch. It&#39;s strange to me, but people are complaining about lack of statues and there aren&#39;t many of the most important figures in British royal history either. Just thought I&#39;d add in my two cents worth

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barbara_41172 you make some very important and valid points. I think there is, however, a bust of the Queen Mum which Edward and Sophie unveiled last year, but not a full statue as demanded by those who are great supporters of Diana and want to honour her memory.

I think that if there is ever to be a full statue of Diana in a significant location, it will be up to William during his reign. I can&#39;t imagine Queen Elizabeth unveiling a statue of Diana. Even though Diana was once her daughter-in-law, there was too much flack in the days after Diana&#39;s death about the Queen not making a statement or lower the flag to half-mast, and of course I&#39;m sure the Queen cannot forget all the scandals and drama that swirled around Diana and dragged the Windsor name through so much blood. (Before anyone gets on my case, I know it takes two to tangle, ect., and that Diana was not the only one responsible for the scandals, but also Charles, Camilla, Fergie, etc. at the time.)

And of course Charles wouldn&#39;t put up a memorial to his ex-wife. (Over Camilla&#39;s dead body, pehaps?&#33; )

And even if one is put up during the present Queen or Charles&#39; reign, I would think that there might be some hostility by these two over it; like they would only do it because of public pressure or demand, not because of a genuine want or desire to honour Diana&#39;s memory. I think the only monarch who would ever erect a monument in Diana&#39;s memory with genuine passion and belief in it would be her son William.
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please put pictures of HRH Prince Charles&#39;s birthday on tomorrow its FRIDAY&#33; he become 55 year old&#33; please put pictures thread when he was little boy and grew-up and he marriage with Diana, lots more and also with Camilla, Wills& Harry&#33;

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