muriel
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The problem with Andrew is that he appeared to reach his peak in his very early twenties: Regarded as serving in the Navy with distinction during the Falklands War, and at his most handsome [he now looks both overweight and gray - neither of which are crimes, I might point out] he now seems to be in decline.
Only my thoughts, which as I always say, are not meant to offend.
It's hard for Andrew. I do NOT think that he is instrinsically bad or evil; I have met him quite a few times and I think that he is just not....very bright. I think that he's basically well-meaning and affable, but does not seem to be intellectually over-burdened and not does he seem to have the power to think things through....
Only my thoughts
Alex
I suppose the best Andrew can do now is imitate Edward, and carry out whatever duties he's assigned without making too much of a fuss. At least until things calm down.
Seems like Andrew and the girls made their choice: pro Sarah and are now frozen out. It's sad but with someone like Sarah in tow (and I'm sure we haven't heard all about the background of the "Cash for Access"-scandal yet) and with both their needs for fresh money it is definately not good to be too closely connected to them for the BRF.
If you want me to take a guess - and it is a guess, then I reckon that when the scandal first broke [about 3 months ago] I expect that at that time nothing new was pencilled into the Duke's diary. [Normally they would be 'booking things' up to 12 - 18 months in advance.]
Kataryn, I don't necessarily agree that Andrew, Beatrice & Eugenie's alliance with Sarah has directly resulted in their being "frozen out." Andrew's long been criticized for being free and easy with travel costs and friendships with unsavory fellows in return for what can certainly be seen as financial gain. While "greed" is the common denominator of the two (S&A,) I don't see that Andrew's loss of position is directly the result of having Sarah as his perpetual millstone. I think he "earned" this demotion all on his own demerits.
My question is will Andrew's new position carry diplomatic immunity? That Epstein ordeal might not be over, they might wanna question Andrew about certain things.
Sorry to quote myself but wondering if anyone had a thought on this.
Seems like Andrew and the girls made their choice: pro Sarah and are now frozen out.
Sorry to quote myself but wondering if anyone had a thought on this.
So far as the UK is concerned, Andrew even in his role as the UK Special Representative for trade has NEVER been able to claim diplomatic immunity, for the simple reason that he is NOT an accredited UK Diplomat. Andrew would therefore be regarded and treated in exactly the same way as a non-royal UK Citizen: only the Queen [Sovereign] is exempt from prosecution here in the UK
Looking back at my comment I missed an "as" which makes it a little harder to decipher but not impossible. A simple, he didn't commit a crime would've sufficed despite the fact that I never claimed that he did. There were articles that claimed Andrew could claim Diplomatic Immunity, so I was going on those.Sorry- I'm an attorney and unless I misunderstood your question, it does not make any sense. I started to list all of the reasons why it doesn't make sense, but it was taking too much time.
The "they" who "might wanna" question Andrew about "certain things" would necessarily be US authorities, since domestic immunity can't be claimed in a diplomat's home country. Howeber, he is not in the US or in custody here. Also, I am unaware of Andrew being suspected of any criminal acts in the United States.
His only crime, as far as I am aware, is keeping bad company. He "might wanna" question himself about that, since a moment of introspection and reflection about the company he keeps is long overdue.
It is highly likely that detectives will also wish to question the Prince as part of their investigation. If subpoenaed he may be forced to plead diplomatic immunity based on his role as business envoy for UK Trade and Investment. Last week David Cameron faced calls from the floor of the Commons to remove the Prince from his post.
So far as the UK is concerned, Andrew even in his role as the UK Special Representative for trade has NEVER been able to claim diplomatic immunity, for the simple reason that he is NOT an accredited UK Diplomat. Andrew would therefore be regarded and treated in exactly the same way as a non-royal UK Citizen: only the Queen [Sovereign] is exempt from prosecution here in the UK
It therefore follows that if it was felt that Andrew has committed an offence under British [English] law, he could be charged with an offence. This happened here in the UK with the Princess Royal, who has a couple of minor criminal convictions in relation to speeding [a traffic offence] and IIRC, the keeping of a dangerous dog.
If it was felt that he had committed an offence abroad, Andrew could EITHER be arrested and charged with the offence if he was abroad at the time of his arrest, or, if he remained in the UK and a foreign power wished him to stand trial, he would theoretically have to stand trial, he could theoretically be extradited to the foreign power concerned to face the charges.
There is one caveat: even though we say in England that 'everyone is equal under the law, so far as the Epstein case is concerned, in practice the powers-that-be in either the UK and/or the US might decide to go after Epstein and not Andrew for what I will call quasi-politcial reasons.