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Old 11-08-2005, 02:48 PM
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I don't think BetrixFan was suggesting that the Queen repeal the law, just that she apply a bit of pressure on the government to do something about it
That is what I meant - sorry, I should have been clearer in my reply. I believe that the Queen should just have a word with the Government and try and alter a few parts of succession around without unleashing a huge debate on the Monarchy.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:52 PM
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I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. I did not realize the curriculum changes with each government.

The only thing I know about your constitution is that it is mostly unwritten and the longest in the world.

I agree with you about the sheik incident. But she really just should have kept her mouth shut about other members of the Royal Family.

While I do think she is refreshingly entertaining and full of charm, and does know how to dress like a royal and wear a tiara, she just oversteps it sometimes.

I may be alone, but I honestly believe she did not make the statements in New York alleged towards her. I believe they were taken out of context by a group of people looking to always drag up the same old record over and over again.
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:54 PM
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Is Prince Michael of Kent ill? I saw a photo of him at the christening of Princess Maria Chiara (daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Calabria of Italy). He looked old and unwell.When did he go bald? Why was Princess Michael wearing a scarf over her head at the christening? Was it a new type of fashion statement or is she losing her hair? I was shoked to see how Prince Michael looks now!
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:57 PM
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Just so we don't have any international misunderstandings here, is it really true that the National Curriculum changes with every government? This sounds a bit as though each government remakes it from scratch as part of the duty of the government, and I really didn't think that was the case. Without getting too far off topic, could you amplify a bit?
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I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. I did not realize the curriculum changes with each government.
Well, officially it doesn't. But it always does. When the Conservatives are in, the curriculum is full of the Empire, Christianity, British Trade etc etc but when a Labour Government is in, all those things are dropped and 'socialist' topics are brought in. Neither ever give lessons in politics, law, constitutions etc. It's only through my own reading that I know how the government works, who the RF are, the position of the Church and basic every day topics. It's silly but thats the way they do things here.

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The only thing I know about your constitution is that it is mostly unwritten and the longest in the world.
Very true. Politicians bang on about the constitution but we don't have one per se. We have a room full of law books but no actual written thing that we call the constitution.

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I agree with you about the sheik incident. But she really just should have kept her mouth shut about other members of the Royal Family.
I agree. You don't tell a stranger about your family whether Princess or pea.

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While I do think she is refreshingly entertaining and full of charm, and does know how to dress like a royal and wear a tiara, she just oversteps it sometimes.
I can see your point. I've seen her upstage the Queen a little bit and thats sad because she doesn't have to do that.

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I may be alone, but I honestly believe she did not make the statements in New York alleged towards her. I believe they were taken out of context by a group of people looking to always drag up the same old record over and over again
No, you're not alone. I think that those people saw Princess Michael, were embarrased at being asked to keep the noise down by a member of the Royal Family and made a hoo-hah out of it. If it had been Princess Alexandra or the Countess of Wessex, the claim would have been dismissed but Marie-Christine has this air of mistake around her and so it sounded plausible that she could have been racist - but she wasn't. I truly believe that she wasn't.
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It struck me as rather ironic at the time that this group of people were being so disruptive that they'd been asked several times to settle down, and all of a sudden managed to spin things so they ended up being the victims. Whatever Princess Michael said, the fact is that she and everyone else in the restaurant were having their evening ruined by a group of rude and inconsiderate people. It's no wonder that frustration was running high.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:13 PM
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Thank you Beatrixfan for the explanations. I do appreciate your help. :)

I agree Elspeth with you and Beatrixfan. But in my country there are those who like to attribute everything to certain events in the past and they start getting loud and immediately like to darken people's characters publicly.

I think they were ticked off she asked them to quiet down. They then saw this as their opportunity to bring up the same old issues over and over again.

I cannot imagine her saying those exact words in any situation.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:15 PM
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Its a pleasure!

Whatever MC may have done I don't think she's stupid enough to make racist comments and I'm glad to see that its the general opinion that she didnt make them.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:22 PM
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As I said before, there are those in my country who try and link everything to racism.

They probably figured out she was famous and a member of the royal family and saw an opportunity to play victims.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think she's totally innocent. The Sheik Buisness - she should have known better after the Countess of Wessex incident but apart from that, I think she's made very few mistakes. It seems that there's a huge stockpile of her wrong doings, but I can't see what she's done wrong. Can anyone explain what exactly she's supposed to be guilty of?
Well, if we go back in time, she has been accused of being a "freeloader" long before Sarah Ferguson got the reputation for that. She has also been accused of cheating on her husband with wealthy American men, one such being Ward Hunt. She has been accused of sneaking out of aforementioned man's house in a disguise when his wife was not present.
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Well, if we go back in time, she has been accused of being a "freeloader" long before Sarah Ferguson got the reputation for that. She has also been accused of cheating on her husband with wealthy American men, one such being Ward Hunt. She has been accused of sneaking out of aforementioned man's house in a disguise when his wife was not present.
Indeed accused, but not convicted

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Old 11-09-2005, 07:42 AM
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Well, if we go back in time, she has been accused of being a "freeloader" long before Sarah Ferguson got the reputation for that. She has also been accused of cheating on her husband with wealthy American men, one such being Ward Hunt. She has been accused of sneaking out of aforementioned man's house in a disguise when his wife was not present.
As Margrethe II says, those are accusations. I can't remember them coming to light over here apart from the 'freeloader' bit but then that was a huge debate not only about Princess Michael but about the Kents and the Gloucesters too. I dont think there was a resident of Kensington Palace apart from Princess Margaret and Princess Alice who escaped the 'scrounger' tag when it all blew up about the rents etc.
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Or as Edward VII called Kensington Palace, "the aunt heap". I love that nickname...
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LOL - how wonderful! The "aunt heap". I like it!
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:23 AM
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I dont think there was a resident of Kensington Palace apart from Princess Margaret and Princess Alice who escaped the 'scrounger' tag when it all blew up about the rents etc.
Princess Margaret was fair game for the tabloids and was often accused of being a Royal layabout during the 1970s, just as the Queen was often accused of being "dowdy".

The only one who was sacrosanct was the Queen Mother. There were a few stories of her prodigious spending and alleged debts, but I don't think the public cared much. In fact, it probably just added to her allure.
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I remember Dame Edna's wonderful low-down on Princess Margaret (Mustique Meg as she called her). She said that Princess Margaret always wore the Queen's dresses side on - she would cut a hole in the hip and put them over her head. Thats why, when you thought you'd seen Margaret's outfits before - you could be sure you had.
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13 November 2005
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PRINCE and Princess Michael of Kent have splashed out on a new home for their daughter -
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/t...name_page.html
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:50 PM
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I think the reason the Queen doesn't like her is because she's German. I admire the Queen but I think she has some anti-German sentiment left over from WWII. The Queen's nickname for her is our Val = short for Valkyrie, pointing to her German heritage. It wasn't that long ago that George V changed the family name to Windsor to drop the German connotation.

She is flashier than the rest of the royals but because she is a minor royal I see her little escapades as harmless and causing some welcome diversion and entertainment without really damaging the core of the monarchy.

They all can't be prim and proper. :p
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:41 AM
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But she isn't German. She's Czech - I think the Queen is pot calling kettle if it comes to German heritage!
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