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Old 12-29-2006, 04:09 PM
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Kate hasn't got a choice. She'll be grandaughter-in-law to THE establishment. She either does as she's told or she doesn't marry him in the first place.
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:23 PM
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The girl who would be Queen, and Jigsaw girl no fashion icon

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...524285,00.html

And

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...980559,00.html
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:27 AM
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Thank you for providing this link . Hm, the Times takes on the topic of Catherine Middleton as a New Year's topic - saying this eg: "A well informed friend in the Queen’s circle said last week: “The Queen really likes Kate and sees in her the potential for an excellent consort when her grandson accedes the throne." - hm, is that to be taklen more (or even much more) seriously than other quotes from the "Royal circle" in tabloids? After all the queen herself reads the Times..

Does this mean the relationship between William and Catherine has heated up to a degree where it left the level of tabloid topic and reaches the serious newspapers, those where the editors have better possibilities to check their information directly at the source? Just wondering. What do you mean?
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:18 AM
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hm, is that to be taken more (or even much more) seriously than other quotes from the "Royal circle" in tabloids? After all the queen herself reads the Times..

Does this mean the relationship between William and Catherine has heated up to a degree where it left the level of tabloid topic and reaches the serious newspapers, those where the editors have better possibilities to check their information directly at the source? Just wondering. What do you mean?
It is The Times on Line, which is no more reliable than The Sun on Line. We take The Times and the majority of times the articles in the paper version bear no relation to the articles on line.
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:23 AM
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It is The Times on Line, which is no more reliable than The Sun on Line. We take The Times and the majority of times the articles in the paper version bear no relation to the articles on line.
Oh, I didn't realise that. Here in Germany the online editions of the papers do have different and more articles, featuring topics the print edition has no space for (eg a travel section at DER SPIEGEL) but normally they are as carefully supervised by the print editor-in-chief as is the print edition. Thank you for the information.
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Old 01-01-2007, 12:17 AM
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Kate: You can call me Catherine
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Old 01-01-2007, 12:26 AM
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Does this mean the relationship between William and Catherine has heated up to a degree where it left the level of tabloid topic and reaches the serious newspapers, those where the editors have better possibilities to check their information directly at the source? Just wondering. What do you mean?
Before coming to any conclusions about the seriousness of The Times, it doesn't hurt to take into account that it's one of the Murdoch papers these days. I used to buy copies of the Sunday Times when our local bookstore carried in (back when we lived in California), and Taki's gossip column was in the section purporting to deal with international news and editorials in detail. I think for a while Tara Palmer-Tompkinson's column about the trials of being an It Girl were in that section too.
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:40 AM
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Looks like being princess-in-waiting...and waiting has gone to plain jane's head.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:44 AM
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Looks like being princess-in-waiting...and waiting has gone to plain jane's head.
Before we get over-excited about nomenclature and beat Kate/Catherine over the head with her own name, it's worth pointing out that Diana disliked "Di". However, newspaper editors prefer shorthand versions because they are easier to fit into headlines, and we prefer them because they give us a sense of familiarity.

It's also worth noting that this story was first published about two months ago, so it's hardly new or news.
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It's also worth noting that The Sun is a tabloid.
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:59 AM
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I mentioned the Kate and Catherine story a few months ago, to be honest I know many people who hate their name being shortened.

When my dad was living at home, friends would call and ask for him by a shortned version of his name, his mum would say nobody of that name lived there as she hated people doing that.
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Old 01-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Yes, but if I remember correctly, didn't she start by wanting to be called Kate? That is how I've always called her and will continue to do so. Yes, Catharine sounds more nobel, if you wish, but she isn't yet.
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People go through phases. Even if Kate/Catherine had preferred Kate more at some point, it's her perogative to go with her given name....all of this is assuming she really issued any edict at all.
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Old 01-01-2007, 01:47 PM
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This article is laughable! Given what we know about Diana's temperament, she and Kate probably would NOT have gotten along. She probably would have had a hard time dealing with William's new loyalties and with someone else stealing her limelight. It would have been a disaster. I guess if the press can't have the real thing they've got to just invent it.
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Old 01-01-2007, 08:52 PM
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Her name is Catherine Elizabeth Middleton. Her family calls her Catherine, and she was called Catherine when she got to Marlborough. Let's string her up for wanting to go by her given name.
(I have a sis who hates her real name and goes by a shortened name. Her friends all call her the short version of her name, which we her family despise. Didn't Richard Burton hate to be called Dick -- Elizabeth Taylor would call him "Dickie" to push his buttons, if I remember correctly. )
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:05 PM
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This article is laughable! Given what we know about Diana's temperament, she and Kate probably would NOT have gotten along. She probably would have had a hard time dealing with William's new loyalties and with someone else stealing her limelight. It would have been a disaster.
Since poor Diana is not here to defend herself from the speculation, I will give her the benefit of the doubt and prefer to believe that she would welcome Kate/Catherine and accept her as a special person in William's life, much as apparently Charles and the Queen allegedly have. I don't recall Diana having a selfish streak and wanting to keep William's attentions all for herself or wanting all the limelight at the expense of her children. I remember quite the opposite: a woman who wanted her sons to be raised completely opposite from the cloistered, unhappy, and lonely childhoods that she and Charles lived. She heaped love on those boys and wanted them to live happy and fulfilled lives. But who knows in the end. It's so sad she is not here now so we will never know.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:26 PM
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Her name is Catherine Elizabeth Middleton. Her family calls her Catherine, and she was called Catherine when she got to Marlborough. Let's string her up for wanting to go by her given name. ...
And just another article about Kate/Catherine issue. The only new thing for me in this article is the 'fact' Kate wants to be called Catherine because she thinks it's much more suited for a Princess!


Kate Middleton wants to be called a more regal 'Catherine'

Kate Middleton is insisting on being called Catherine, in an attempt to sound more regal as she waits for Prince William to pop the question.
The stunning brunette, who was christened Catherine, thinks it has a more "formal ring" to it, according to friends.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:35 PM
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I love it how they never give the friends names.

I mean, really, she is a grown woman...she can call herself Buttercup if she wants.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:41 PM
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Absolutely Zonk. Again, Catherine is what her family has called her long before she ever crossed William's path. Where is the problem???
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:55 PM
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I also hate when people (especially my family) call me Solita (wich means alone) instead of Solange. So I get her, but one thing is not liking to be called by a shortened name because it is not your given name and another is not liking it because it doesn't sound "regal" enough. Or maybe this is just being blown out of proportion by the press.
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