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Old 03-06-2014, 08:03 PM
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Amazing! Catherine and William could burn Buckingham palace down and people would find an excuse. I'm starting to see why so many have left this forum.

They're not excuses--posters have pointed out in well-reasoned, -thought out, and data-driven posts that the, frankly, inflammatory tweets by British journalists are a little unreasonable. If you and others disagree, that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with people responding to a discussion with facts.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:09 PM
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Just a quick question if I may. It has been pointed out that Will and Kate are not full time royals on numerous occasions. So can you please tell me that at 30ish what are they 'full time' at?
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:14 PM
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Just a quick question if I may. It has been pointed out that Will and Kate are not full time royals on numerous occasions. So can you please tell me that at 30ish what are they 'full time' at?
They're full time parents. They're on the board of their own foundation which they share with Prince Harry. They're representatives for numerous charities, they're about to undertake their third royal tour, and William's pursuing educational opportunities to prepare for his future duties as Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall.

Their approach has more than likely been guided by the Queen, by Prince Charles, and by a team of trusted advisers. Why are people so quick to think that there's something wrong?
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:55 PM
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HRHHermione:Why are people so quick to think that there's something wrong?

Because the human race has nothing better to do then put other people down so that they can feel good about complaining about something.............just plain jealous and lazy and ignorant, ignore them and they will go away for good!
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:21 AM
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No wonder some posters are leaving this forum! To be told that those of us who do not believe that William and Kate are the greatest things since sliced bread and who dare to question their work ethic or the state of their marriage or anything else about them in a way that it remotely critical of the pair are "just plain jealous and lazy and ignorant" and should be ignored in the hope we will go away for good, does not exactly inspire one to post here.

My personal view about this trip to the Maldives is that William and Kate have been packed off there for a week together without distractions in the hope that they will spend enough time together to enable the spare to be created before they separate for good.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:36 AM
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...This has not cost the Uk any more money than if they had stayed at home...
It has most certainly cost a lot more than if they stayed at home as the British taxpayers have to pay for first class airfares and accommodation along with meal allowances for the security.

I remember when Eugenie was on her post school gap year and she was staying in the backpackers place where it was pointed out that the non on duty RPOs would be at the first class hotel down the road and that they were being rotated out every 2 weeks or so, again first class - because that is what is required for the security detail.

If they were at home those costs wouldn't be there.

They are also costing more because George has to have a full separate detail of his own when separated so that means a number of officers who would be either on other duties or leave having to cover him. When he is with his parents he doesn't get a full 6 - 8 person team of his own.

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Amazing! Catherine and William could burn Buckingham palace down and people would find an excuse. I'm starting to see why so many have left this forum.
There is a reason why on other boards this one is called the 'sugar' board. More and more criticism of the royals is being discouraged here - especially of William and Kate.

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Who wouldn't want to take a vacation if you could afford it from this rotten cold?
Not George VI - he was upset, extremely upset, when he was in South Africa in 1947 and it was cold, wet and miserable in the UK and he was in the warmth out there. He made it publicly known that he was turn between his duty to be in SA at the time but also that he couldn't be with the people in the UK and sharing their suffering - just as he had done through the Blitz.

This couple is not an ordinary couple or a normal couple but a privileged one that doesn't seem to get that fact. Their privileges haven't come as a result of hard work from either themselves for their forefathers but from being descended, in William's case, from the biggest, baddest bullies in the middle ages that saw them rise to the top of the heap. As a result he has expectations on him that he isn't living up to. He and his wife shouldn't be going overseas when the weather is cold but rather be with the people who can't get away - to share their suffering - as George VI did all those years ago.

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You all are just a barrel of laughs and a great time.
Seriously for most of us, royal watching is a hobby and it's fun and entertaining.
If you find yourself personally offended that someone you don't know took a vacation, you might want to look at your life and examine your choices.
It was my choice many years ago to respect and look up to the BRF - but that respect has gone out the window due to William and his waste of space wife.

You might see this as a hobby - but for many generations it was part of the psyche of the nation - to look up to and respect and love the royals who gave back through work and being part of the fabric of the nation. William hasn't grasped that essential fact and thumbs his nose at the British people every chance he gets - holidaying overseas (something his grandmother never does and increasingly his father doesn't do either).

William's attitude is actually impacting the very way many British people even define themselves - even if they don't do so consciously - they expect a royal to work for the nation from their early-mid 20s for life but William is now in his 30s and still hasn't started really serving the nation. He is a role model who is failing. Kate has failed completely as being someone any self-respecting girl would aspire to be like.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:51 AM
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Scotland Yard Guarding Little PG in Berkshire.

You're a font of informative detail Iluvbertie.
Same report is saying little Prince George - left behind with his Middleton Grandparents - has a Scotland Yard security detail making sure he is safe in the English countryside.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:53 AM
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You all are just a barrel of laughs and a great time.

Seriously for most of us, royal watching is a hobby and it's fun and entertaining.

If you find yourself personally offended that someone you don't know took a vacation, you might want to look at your life and examine your choices.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:10 AM
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It was my choice many years ago to respect and look up to the BRF - but that respect has gone out the window due to William and his waste of space wife.
You may not like her, but it's very disrespectful call her a waste of space. Not because she's a Princess, but because she's a human being.

I suppose there's a rule here about not offend the Royals.

Shameful behavior.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:20 AM
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You may not like her, but it's very disrespectful call her a waste of space. Not because she's a Princess, but because she's a human being. I suppose there's a rule here about not offend the Royals.
Shameful behavior.
Exactly.

People should be able to express negative opinions, but the vehemence has gotten really off-putting. Calling her a waste of space for... What? Not doing as much as they'd like? Implying that the marriage is bad and will end as soon as she has a second child?

That's just ugly. It's ugly and it's unpleasant and it isn't supported by factual evidence.

This forum is good mostly because it asks that members base their opinions on solid fact, and lately some of the whining here sounds like a tabloid writer fantasy, not like anything reality based.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:20 AM
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You all are just a barrel of laughs and a great time.
Seriously for most of us, royal watching is a hobby and it's fun and entertaining.
If you find yourself personally offended that someone you don't know took a vacation, you might want to look at your life and examine your choices.
I'll have to agree with Iluvbertie's comments HRHHermione, regarding Royal service and duty etc.

For Australians, the whole Royal thing is still very tied up with our Constitution and various laws.
It was through the Crown's powers that a democratically elected Australian government was "sacked" in our country in 1975.
People still call it a "coup" - and done in the name of the Queen.
From the US, and even from here in Oz a lot of the time, yes, a bit of diversion and entertainment.
But really, the only thing keeping the Royal Family in place here, is Australian's skepticism of whatever local candidate would become our Head of State.
"Serve the People" is the name of the game still. (Though we still have the Queen, for that of course.)
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:25 AM
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And that is completely fair and I get that a resident of a commonwealth country would have a different perspective than a U.S. resident and you reminded me of that very nicely- thank you.

I just still think there's a balance for these two that's nearly impossible. They have to be good at their jobs
while never overshadowing the Queen or Prince Charles and that's not an easy balance to strike. I think that's actually the biggest reason their press exposure is so limited.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:51 AM
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You might be right, Moonmaiden23, but if I were you I would not be passing around the champers yet. I'm sure we'll see a lot said about the travelling Will and Kate show on the morning TV shows and in the women's mags and in these media we will be bombarded by photos of George, but I doubt the average Australian cares much about these two or their baby.
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Old 03-07-2014, 02:56 AM
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Sorry...what is "champers"?
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I can't believe that Kate is being called a 'waste of space'. That's just incredibly mean.

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No wonder some posters are leaving this forum! To be told that those of us who do not believe that William and Kate are the greatest things since sliced bread and who dare to question their work ethic or the state of their marriage or anything else about them in a way that it remotely critical of the pair are "just plain jealous and lazy and ignorant" and should be ignored in the hope we will go away for good, does not exactly inspire one to post here.

My personal view about this trip to the Maldives is that William and Kate have been packed off there for a week together without distractions in the hope that they will spend enough time together to enable the spare to be created before they separate for good.
Let's not pretend that W&K's thread is the only place where critical posts get called out. I've seen it happen in threads for Princess Beatrice, Madeleine, Mary, Charlene and Albert. In fact, if you go into many threads on this forum, you'll find people being challenged on critical and negative posts. Especially when those posts are discussing the marriage/relationship, parenting skills or work and charity involvement of the different royals.

As to people leaving, they could be going for any number of reasons - bored with the subject, personal issues, feel that the negativity in some of the threads is exhausting, no time to post, etc. To imply that people are leaving because they can't speak negative of William or Kate, is a bit silly.

I'm not sure why people think Kate and William don't spend enough time together. Is a week away from your spouse a sign of trouble? If so, there are an awful lot of couples headed for divorce court.
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Old 03-07-2014, 03:01 AM
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Sorry...what is "champers"?
Champagne.
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:58 AM
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Let's cool the speculative discussion regarding the status of the Cambridge marriage.

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I really don't understand some of the Cambridge negativity that other Royals don't seem to get on here. They seem to be the target of most of the negative posts on this forum.

I do question why some posters bother posting on here sometimes. Keep going on about how much you don't care and how much your country doesn't care. Some people really need to get a sense of humour and lighten up a bit. It's a shame that some really good posters have dissapeard from the forums.

Sometimes I do wonder if Cambridges have commited mass murder the way some people react on here to a weeks holiday. About this time last year there was uproar about the Cambridges going to a wedding in the Alps and it was more widely reported in the press.

As for the Cambridges workload, yes the Cambridges could be doing more in my opinion. I suspect that this year the workload will go up a hell of a lot starting with the tour. This time next year the posters complaining that the Camrbidges don't do enough work will be complaining that they are over exposed.
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:25 PM
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From Richard Palmer's article about Prince Harry's speech today -

"Picking up a theme that will be echoed by his brother Prince William and, particularly, sister-in-law Kate this year, Harry, 29, called for early intervention with young people facing crisis."

Somebody needs to break into KP and steal Rebecca's Diary of Future Events so everybody can relax. :)
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The press were invited to KP on Tuesday - no reporting of event allowed apparently. I think Richard just let a little squeak out of the bag! LOL
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