Earl and Countess of Wessex 3: May - September 2004

[HMQueenElizabethII]

The Countess use a new and very lovely bag when she opened the London Hostels Association's new hostel,Friendship House.I hope you also like this.

[timtonruben359]

Originally posted by Windsorfan@Jun 20th, 2004 - 8:07 am
The Wessexes can take Louise to Denmark,Trooping The Colour,Royal Ascot or any engagements now.Louise is small now and they can't bring her to any events.Who will take care of her?

According to what I read while the Wessexs were in Denmark for the royal wedding, Louise stayed with Queen Elizabeth II and her nannies. Sophie is a much more modern mother taking care of Louise herself as often as possible, but they do hire nannies as royal duites take her away from Louise from time to time.

[sara1981]

Originally posted by timtonruben359+Jun 23rd, 2004 - 11:39 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (timtonruben359 @ Jun 23rd, 2004 - 11:39 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Windsorfan@Jun 20th, 2004 - 8:07 am

According to what I read while the Wessexs were in Denmark for the royal wedding, Louise stayed with Queen Elizabeth II and her nannies. Sophie is a much more modern mother taking care of Louise herself as often as possible, but they do hire nannies as royal duites take her away from Louise from time to time.

i told everybody about my posts that her daughter Lady Louise cant go into public because her parents was in public engagements nor trooping colours, Royal Ascot and State Trip and State Dinners if her dad the Prince Edward gone on trip but Sophie was in trooping colours and Ascots weeks ago while her husband was gone but Sophie dont bring baby to the public because she is first time mother!

if baby Louise become 1 year old or grow-up she can go to trooping colour or Ascot with her parents with her grandmother the Queen 2 and member of Royal Family also.

Sara Boyce

[btsnyder]

I know that upon the Duke of Ediburgh's death, the Earl of Wessex will succeed to the title. Will he then be officially known as the Duke of Edinburgh?

[HMQueenElizabethII]

So Sophie will also be the Duchess of Edinburgh.But after the death of Edward,who will be the Duke or Duchess of Edinburgh?

[sara1981]

are you serious about that! who told you about that!

maybe Prince Edward would still his title as Earl of Wessex when his dad died im so sure his dad looks okay or dont! i think his dad looks perfect like as 100%!

Sara Boyce

[American Chai]

If Sophie and Edward have a son, that son will be the Duke of Edinburgh on Edward's death. If not, the title will go into abeyance until the next monarch appoints a new Duke of Edinburgh. Or perhaps, Prince Harry will get the title if Edward dies without an heir?

[HMQueenElizabethII]

It's right Sarah.I have read it from some site and some books told that Edward will be the next Duke of Edinburgh after his father 's death.

[sara1981]

Originally posted by American Chai@Jun 27th, 2004 - 7:57 pm
If Sophie and Edward have a son, that son will be the Duke of Edinburgh on Edward's death. If not, the title will go into abeyance until the next monarch appoints a new Duke of Edinburgh. Or perhaps, Prince Harry will get the title if Edward dies without an heir?

im so sure!

if Edward and Sophie would cant add another child because Sophie had eptoic pregnanices for first times before her daughter was born her daughter was small was 4 lbs i think Sophie would cant have another baby if Sophie would died to add another baby! if Sophie would carry no matters girl or boy.

Sara Boyce

[Princess Haya]

The Queen (or Charles if he is King) could make the title able to be passed on to Lady Louise by what is called "Special Remainder". This was done with the title of Mountbatten of Burma" because the Earl had only two daughters. His eldest daughter is now known as Countess Mountbatten of Burma and will pass the title to her eldest son, Lord Romsey.
The dukedom of Fife was also passed to a daughter early in the 20th century.

[hrhcp]

American Chai&nbsp; Posted: Jun 27th, 2004 - 5:57 pm

If Sophie and Edward have a son, that son will be the Duke of Edinburgh on Edward's death

I don't think so ..... i think this is only a lifetime title, and that the monarch has the say to whom it is awarded next.

for instance, If Prince Philip is the current Duke of Edinburgh, I would have expected Prince Charles to become the Duke on his father's death as first male son, but no, the Monarch - QE2 - gives it not to the second born son, but to the last of the lot.

[sara1981]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 27th, 2004 - 9:58 pm

I don't think so ..... i think this is only a lifetime title, and that the monarch has the say to whom it is awarded next.

for instance, If Prince Philip is the current Duke of Edinburgh, I would have expected Prince Charles to become the Duke on his father's death as first male son, but no, the Monarch - QE2 - gives it not to the second born son, but to the last of the lot.

right!

Sophie wouldnt have another baby she told herself or she told to Prince Edward about cant another baby since she had collaspe with her pregnant.

if Prince Charles would become King or Prince Edward would become Duke of Edinburgh after Philip's death.

Sara Boyce

[moosey60]

So...Charles could become Prince of Wales and Duke of Edinburgh? Curious. Sooooo....would William and Harry become W & H of Wales and Edinburgh? Charles was born Prince Charles of Edinburgh, was he not?

What is the system in inheriting titles like "Duke of Edinburgh"? Is it at the disposal of the queen/king or is there a "waiting list" so to speak?

[hrhcp]

moosey60&nbsp; Posted: Jun 27th, 2004 - 8:20 pm

What is the system in inheriting titles like "Duke of Edinburgh"? Is it at the disposal of the queen/king or is there a "waiting list" so to speak?

I would say you hit it on the nub --- "at the disposal of the monarch".

[moosey60]

Originally posted by sara1981@Jun 27th, 2004 - 10:15 pm
Sophie wouldnt have another baby she told herself or she told to Prince Edward about cant another baby since she had collaspe with her pregnant.

:flower: I'm sorry, but what do you mean? Sophie would collapse with her "pregnant"? From my understanding Sophie is slightly infertile but perfectly healthy. I do not think that Louise's premature birth was any fault of Sophie's.

I think Edward and Sophie are optimistic that they will have another child after Louise.

[hrhcp]

"From my understanding Sophie is slightly infertile but perfectly healthy."

er ....erhm .... isn't that an oxymoron ?
- how can she be even be the teensiet bit "slightly infertile" if she's been pregnant and given birth ?

[Princess Haya]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 28th, 2004 - 10:58 am

I don't think so ..... i think this is only a lifetime title, and that the monarch has the say to whom it is awarded next.

for instance, If Prince Philip is the current Duke of Edinburgh, I would have expected Prince Charles to become the Duke on his father's death as first male son, but no, the Monarch - QE2 - gives it not to the second born son, but to the last of the lot.

The most likely scenario is that Charles and Andrew have waived their right to the title for themselves and their descendants.
This happened in the past with the Dukedom of Sax-Coburg-Gotha which should have gone to Prince Alberts eldest son when Duke Ernst died. Instead Edward VII waived his right to the title and it went to the second son who, funnily enough, was Duke of Edinburgh. Upon his death without an heir the Duke of Connaught waived his right and the Dukedom passed to the Duke of Albany, Prince Leopold's son.

[moosey60]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 27th, 2004 - 10:28 pm
"From my understanding Sophie is slightly infertile but perfectly healthy."

er ....erhm .... isn't that an oxymoron ?
- how can she be even be the teensiet bit "slightly infertile" if she's been pregnant and given birth ?

Being infertile doesn't mean that she's unhealthy as in "Oh no, I'm infertile, I shall now die." It is to my understanding that she did experience fertility problems esp. regarding the state of her fallopian tubes. She had an ectopic pregnancy (according to the press and perhaps, Sara).

[hrhcp]

so .... just this one child, and that's it ?

[moosey60]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 27th, 2004 - 11:11 pm
so .... just this one child, and that's it ?

Eh? Is this "one child" Louise? Well...I don't know, I mean they could potentially have another. I read an article that talked (for some reason) about how Sophie may never have a child (this was before Louise) because of the state of her fallopian tubes. Hmm...

Although, back to the topic, this would be a good opportunity to set up a small poll...."Who will be the next Duke of Edinburgh" options: Edward, Charles, Andrew, William, Harry, etc.