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Old 11-30-2018, 06:55 PM
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And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.

(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)

Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Chapel.html
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:01 PM
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It’s hard to believe that this world has become so void of compassion that a husband and wife holding hands is seen as a bad thing & needy. Thankfully the Sussexes are not afraid to be themselves & that is appreciated by some of us who understand a simple display of kindness.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:04 PM
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And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.

(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)

Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Chapel.html
I find this story really strange, on the morning of the wedding a reporter who had been in the chapel commented on the wonderful scent coming from the hundreds of fresh flowers inside. Why would meghan ask for air fresheners after arranging for hundreds of scented flowers. More fluff and nonsense.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:09 PM
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And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.

(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)

Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Chapel.html
The repetition of the "what Meghan wants, Meghan gets" quote is so divisive and damaging.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:18 PM
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There were a lot of wedding guests that commented about the scent of the flowers in St George’s. James Cordon also mentioned it on his show.

https://youtu.be/Y0KgYB3wIGo

I don’t read or believe anything that comes from the Daily Mail. I see their headlines & excerpts which constantly has false information and that alone is too much. The amount of foolish articles the tabloids, especially Daily Mail publishes about Meghan is ridiculous.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:22 PM
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Can I put in my two penneth about PDAs and royals here? I agree with those who think that if being tactile is natural to you then it's natural. If holding hands and rubbing backs helps during a Royal engagement then that is the way to go.
I've followed Harry for a very long time, and he has never been one to hide his feelings about those he loves, and Meghan is also tactile.

I think that it's often forgotten that Meghan has lived in England for just one year. She began Royal engagements (and quite a few of them) when she was newly engaged and didn't know what to expect. (And even then some of the Press was hostile. Hello Jan Moir!)

Meghan gave up everything in her former life because she fell in love. She was enthusiastic and very eager on those early engagements, and although people who met her were impressed she also received plenty of criticism. Just think. You go out nervous, but brimming with enthusiasm and anxious to do your best, and what you get back are criticisms about rubbing your fiance's back and some of your facial expressions!

I think these two gave each other comfort in those early engagements. Sometimes their hand holding was so tight their hands were white, a sign of tension in my book. Meghan was understandably nervous and I think Harry was anxious for her. And don't let's forget that white envelopes were sent to KP at one stage and who knows what other threats from crazies there were.

On very formal occasions they do not usually hold hands any more and it may lessen in the years to come. I remember reading that on one tree planting occasion in NSW Charles hoisted Diana over his shoulder and jokingly ran off with her. I think people too often forget that these are human beings we are talking about here.

I closely followed the tour in Australia and was one of the large crowds of Aussies who saw Harry and Meghan in Melbourne. Not one of the people I heard in that crowd felt that this couple were OTT in their hand holding or loving looks. I heard nothing but praise of how great they were together.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:24 PM
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Yeah California has nothing to do with the 'pda' being shown..I live in the conservative midwest and the Sussexes aren't doing anything you wouldn't see here.



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Old 11-30-2018, 09:12 PM
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And so it continues. Now it's a 'dictatorial bride' wanting to 'freshen up' the smell inside St George's Chapel. Again from the DM, and it seems that at least one of these leakers about Meghan behaviour as a bride to be comes from the staff at BP. And on this occasion I really don't believe the Fail is making it up.

(Incidentally, a lot of old buildings in Britain feel slightly musty, something the majority of people who've grown up with it don't even notice. However, most people who come from elsewhere would perhaps find things a bit smelly.)

Was it really necessary for someone from BP, perhaps from the Lord Chamberlain's department itself, to impart this anecdote to the Fail months later, in order to reinforce the 'ignorant American bridezilla' narrative the tabloids seem to want to harp on?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-Chapel.html
This is a stupid article. It sounds like maybe KP suggested using the spray devices as an air freshener and BP said no because they could and that was that.
It doesn't suggest bridezilla behavior to me. And I agree with another poster, it would seem the quantity of flowers planned for the venue would offer enough fragrance to offset any mustiness.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:43 PM
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Ok, I’m not even going down the road of if it’s true or not. But let’s just give DM the benefit of the doubt and say it’s true. There is nothing “dictatorial” about a groom or a bride having an idea and asking if it’s possible, and then accepting that the idea is not going to work out. It’s called wedding planning. It happens at every wedding. It doesn’t make anyone a bridezilla.

Honestly, given that the Sussex wedding is about as pared back as you could expect, I can’t see how Harry or Meghan would be gossiped about as difficult or demanding or high strung. Given that they didn’t meet Bishop Curry and Meghan didn’t see her wedding veil until either the day before or the day of the wedding, I’d think they are probably the most laid back couple I’ve had to deal with.
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:12 PM
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Ok, I’m not even going down the road of if it’s true or not. But let’s just give DM the benefit of the doubt and say it’s true. There is nothing “dictatorial” about a groom or a bride having an idea and asking if it’s possible, and then accepting that the idea is not going to work out. It’s called wedding planning. It happens at every wedding. It doesn’t make anyone a bridezilla.

Honestly, given that the Sussex wedding is about as pared back as you could expect, I can’t see how Harry or Meghan would be gossiped about as difficult or demanding or high strung. Given that they didn’t meet Bishop Curry and Meghan didn’t see her wedding veil until either the day before or the day of the wedding, I’d think they are probably the most laid back couple I’ve had to deal with.

Given the fact that people claim that the gown did not fit, all the rumors about Meghan being at the fitting of a child does not make any sense.


The British Royal Family received a great bump in good will and popularity because of the wedding. In their zeal to put Meghan in her place they should remember that when you shovel manure EVERYBODY gets the stench. The stories, the rumors while the target is only ONE person it makes the whole institution look weak, petty, insecure and down right awful.



Why would the palace courtiers start a smear campaign during the Holidays. It creates an undertone and narrative of a family at war while last year and during the wedding we saw a family pull together.


When they fight against each other they open the doors to the press to create the narrative.



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Old 11-30-2018, 10:17 PM
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Buckingham Palace have denied a Dan Wooton/Mirror story about supposed Kate and Meghan scrap.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebri...rgument-story/
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:53 PM
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Buckingham Palace have denied a Dan Wooton/Mirror story about supposed Kate and Meghan scrap.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebri...rgument-story/
So now supposedly BP has a statement but not KP?

The smear campaign against Duchess Meghan is vulgar & disgusting! Especially that it is against a new member of the royal family who has shown such enthusiasm for her new role & brought positive attention to the BRF. As a longtime Monarchist Iíve seen a lot, however this treatment of the pregnant Duchess Meghan is appalling!

I agree with AlowVera, it makes the institution look awful!

Not that it will make any difference to the BRF, but Iíll be closing my account with the Royal Collection Shop. Purchasing further royal gifts is a turn off when a pregnant woman is being needlessly attacked.
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:31 PM
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William and Harry have muddle through all this time, each totally aware of what annoys them about each other but so what? Who cares, not them. So I am sure there is someone on staff there with an axe to grind. They either don't see the problems they are bringing to the entire BRF generally or the stress they are visiting on H & M and W & C particularly.

It is easy to see that the office dynamics of KP could be in a state. Catherine has been on Maternity Leave and someone's feelings are hurt or more likely got their nose out of joint because Meghan writes her own speeches and doesn't need someone to do it for her. If they didn't research and draft it I would bet they vetted it just for a second opinion. But just think, staffers have been crafting and finessing speeches made by all W, C and H and along comes Meghan and she doesn't "need" them.

Would that lead to a feeling of discontent? A concern about their future or resentment that some newbie thinks they know everything. Do they moan to William about Harry's wife, and William's stuck in the middle . . . do I tell Harry and upset him or don't tell him and let the discontent grow.

Many a split in friendship and even family has been the result of things not said rather than open disagreements. But it seems that unscrupulous mole is having a great time manipulating the brothers and their wives drip-feeding acid with just enough believability to get people hooked.

Actually, I am beginning to think that Palace staffers are just like those Civil Servants found in the TV series "Yes Minister", and would recommend the very first episode on Netflix or such. It is Machiavellian, diabolical and probably contains more truth than we would ever like to admit. Hmm, I feel episode three calling.
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:51 PM
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If there were some disgruntled staff upset that Meghan is more than capable of writing her own speeches, then one would think they’d be happy. They get paid regardless of how much work they do, so then really shouldn’t have any complaints.

Royal reporters frequently point out the Sussexes are irrelevant, so you’d think staff & media wouldn’t really care about them or have any interest in what they’re doing. There’s rumours that media are upset because they don’t get leaks or any info about the Sussexes. Again, why would media care about an irrelevant couple?
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:59 PM
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So now supposedly BP has a statement but not KP?

The smear campaign against Duchess Meghan is vulgar & disgusting! Especially that it is against a new member of the royal family who has shown such enthusiasm for her new role & brought positive attention to the BRF. As a longtime Monarchist Iíve seen a lot, however this treatment of the pregnant Duchess Meghan is appalling!

I agree with AlowVera, it makes the institution look awful!

Not that it will make any difference to the BRF, but Iíll be closing my account with the Royal Collection Shop. Purchasing further royal gifts is a turn off when a pregnant woman is being needlessly attacked.



Not only is it a deliberate smear campaign, it is a gaslighting campaign.


The Royal Reporters put out one version of the story and then later condense the story to a version that supports their diva narrative of Meghan.


The original Tiara story was that meghan was given a choice, she chose the emerald tiara, then the palace could not confirm the origin or the tiara?? so they asked her to pick another tiara instead. That was changed to just Meghan demaned an emerald tiara.


Another story that was changed is the wake up at 5 am, and she also sends 6-7 EMAILS. This has morphed into she wakes up at 5am and then at 5am she TEXTS the staff.


Even if I hate someone, I want the TRUTH so I can hate the person even more, but even when the rumors are about people I hate I look at the story with a critical eye. The fact that the RR's are changing the story to make Meghan look bad makes me question this whole campaign.


This whole thing is INSIDIOUS!! if only they went after politicians who have the ability to TANK an economy instead of the wife of the sixth in line!
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:03 AM
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Buckingham Palace have denied a Dan Wooton/Mirror story about supposed Kate and Meghan scrap.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebri...rgument-story/



Well they should of denied that story when it was first release but Dan just changed the story around to put the focus on Kate. So BP denies this story but remains silent when the same story was released that started this whole mess.


Like I said if you allow your staff to throw manure at the most vulnerable then that manure is going to eventually taint everyone else.




BTW here is the ORIGINAL story about the Wedding being scented with CANDLES not glade air freshener: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/e...tuberose-rose/


According to the article Will and Kate's wedding was also scented with Jo Malone candles.


So another story debunked!!
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We're now at 62 pages, so it's time for a new thread for Harry and Meghan:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...8-a-45823.html
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