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Old 05-21-2018, 05:05 AM
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Surely it’s not accurate to suggest Megan Markle will bring feminism to the Royal family . Princess Anne has very successfully done so for years .

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Old 05-21-2018, 06:14 AM
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I'd actually be very hard pressed to define Meghan as a "feminist". To me, that word is too constricting and boxes a person into a certain mold. Meghan most certainly isn't a run of the mill, easy to put into a box kind of person. She embraces her femininity but its like her ethereal veil and highlights a woman comfortable in her own skin.

For me, the true feminist is the one that can see humanity as a whole and strive for balance in how all people are to be respected, cared for and loved as the unique people they are. This, too, I think was Bishop Curry's message. "Love your God, love your neighbors and also love yourself."
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:19 AM
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The BBC reporter mentioned at the end of the broadcast that several official trips abroad are planned for this year. One of them will be to The Netherlands.
I have been watching the repeat coverage on BBC America....this is what I heard....trips to Dublin, the Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, the Fiji Islands and Tongo.
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:53 AM
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Queen Elizabeth is a great example of strength and feminism. I feel like people try to force their own definition onto Meghan. She is not bringing something foreign, just adding something different. There is nothing wrong with that but folks will twisted it to suit whatever agenda they are going for.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:15 AM
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Anyways, as for the feminism thing. I'm glad the royal family included that in her official bio. I remember her being a feminist was an issue for some as they thought that's political. The reality for a lot of Western country isn't the lack of laws in these cases, but the traditional male and female gender role that we grow up with and then goes on to shape how we behave. Things like teaching girls to drown out voices that tell them they have to be a certain way, and teach them it's ok if they like math more than literature. It's the way people behave.
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I wonder if the Sussexes will join the Royal party at the Chelsea Flower show 'Private view', this evening ?
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The trip to Ireland will be a private 1 day visit as per the Irish media.

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Old 05-21-2018, 12:43 PM
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I wonder if the Sussexes will join the Royal party at the Chelsea Flower show 'Private view', this evening ?
The Queen has just arrived so no.
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Today I read this article by Piers Morgan on the DM: Piers Morgan : Meghan Markle can't lecture about equality | Daily Mail Online

I know many people have issues with him. I don't follow him on tv so I can't say whether I like him or not but, truth to be told, I have found myself agreeing with some of his articles. I also agreed with most of what he wrote today (though I'm sure many here won't) but I don't want to discuss that. One thing really, REALLY struck me. At one point, commenting Meghan's new bio on the Royals' website reporting her washing-up liquid "success" he writes:

"I remember discussing that very subject with you when we met for a drink in my local Kensington pub during the week you first met Harry."

Ok. I don't believe in coincidences. Why would Meghan meet with Morgan the same week she met Prince Harry? The meeting seemed to have been pre-arranged, not casual, and since it occurred in "his" pub probably requested more by her rather than him?. During the evening they discussed her story (the dishwasher incident and her views on women empowerment, etc. ). Why? It sounds like something you would tell during an interview! It all looks to me quite odd AND on the same week someone set her with Prince Harry? Who was using whom? Seems someone (who?) was doing a lot of PR/networking to me...but Piers Morgan seems a strange choice.

(I don't doubt this was true btw or he would be shut up by KP (privately or publicly) in a nano-second.)

He then goes on saying that they had already corresponded by email in previous months discussing gun control, etc. Ok...at that point she was neither famous nor influential (not even remotely, so, please, don't answer me that she was a humanitarian etc. etc.!). I would love to know how this acquaintance was formed and when (and if!) the correspondence ended!

To that, add that Violet von Westenholz, the now famous matchmaker, is in PR (and so are about a million society girls in London you'll say - true...). I don't know, but something doesn't compute to me. It all sounds very unnatural. I have no doubt that eager posters will enlighten me on the matter.

Has Morgan already discussed his acquaintance with Meghan? Maybe he has and I'm just ignorant but I was incredibly surprised I have to say!
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I believe Piers was acquainted with many of the actors on "Suits" so not surprising Meghan knew him and would meet up with him while in London.

However--
https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/...harry-13531898


Once she met Harry and began her relationship she became unavailable to Piers. He is still bitter.
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Today I read this article by Piers Morgan on the DM: Piers Morgan : Meghan Markle can't lecture about equality | Daily Mail Online

I know many people have issues with him. I don't follow him on tv so I can't say whether I like him or not but, truth to be told, I have found myself agreeing with some of his articles. I also agreed with most of what he wrote today (though I'm sure many here won't) but I don't want to discuss that. One thing really, REALLY struck me. At one point, commenting Meghan's new bio on the Royals' website reporting her washing-up liquid "success" he writes:

"I remember discussing that very subject with you when we met for a drink in my local Kensington pub during the week you first met Harry."

Ok. I don't believe in coincidences. Why would Meghan meet with Morgan the same week she met Prince Harry? The meeting seemed to have been pre-arranged, not casual, and since it occurred in "his" pub probably requested more by her rather than him?. During the evening they discussed her story (the dishwasher incident and her views on women empowerment, etc. ). Why? It sounds like something you would tell during an interview! It all looks to me quite odd AND on the same week someone set her with Prince Harry? Who was using whom? Seems someone (who?) was doing a lot of PR/networking to me...but Piers Morgan seems a strange choice.

(I don't doubt this was true btw or he would be shut up by KP (privately or publicly) in a nano-second.)

He then goes on saying that they had already corresponded by email in previous months discussing gun control, etc. Ok...at that point she was neither famous nor influential (not even remotely, so, please, don't answer me that she was a humanitarian etc. etc.!). I would love to know how this acquaintance was formed and when (and if!) the correspondence ended!

To that, add that Violet von Westenholz, the now famous matchmaker, is in PR (and so are about a million society girls in London you'll say - true...). I don't know, but something doesn't compute to me. It all sounds very unnatural. I have no doubt that eager posters will enlighten me on the matter.

Has Morgan already discussed his acquaintance with Meghan? Maybe he has and I'm just ignorant but I was incredibly surprised I have to say!
There are about six pages of posts discussing Piers Morgan and Meghan Markle's pub discussion. How it came about (they were connected on twitter because of gun control and she was going to be in the UK), when it came about (either one or two days before she met Harry), and the wide ranging discussion they had (including the information that she was, at the end of June 2016, "recently single").

Here's a link to the six pages of posts, starting at the oldest: The Royal Forums - Search Results
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Today I read this article by Piers Morgan on the DM: Piers Morgan : Meghan Markle can't lecture about equality | Daily Mail Online

Has Morgan already discussed his acquaintance with Meghan? Maybe he has and I'm just ignorant but I was incredibly surprised I have to say!
He talks about it every chance he gets.

He's one of his times.

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Old 05-21-2018, 09:18 PM
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Interesting to read the article about him, “the 52 year old known for his acid tongue”. The daily fail is bad enough but to subject yourself to nastiness by choice?
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:23 PM
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There are about six pages of posts discussing Piers Morgan and Meghan Markle's pub discussion. How it came about (they were connected on twitter because of gun control and she was going to be in the UK), when it came about (either one or two days before she met Harry), and the wide ranging discussion they had (including the information that she was, at the end of June 2016, "recently single").

Here's a link to the six pages of posts, starting at the oldest: The Royal Forums - Search Results
Thank you so much Hel! I was sure I was missing something!! I'll go and read about it. Very generous of you to provide the link!
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I saw that article! And he must have written around the same time he was slamming Samantha/Yvonne on TV for trash talking Meghan. I have no idea what point he was trying to make by quoting Meghan's email to him about gun control in a UK publication. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is gun safety a big deal in the UK?
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I saw that article! And he must have written around the same time he was slamming Samantha/Yvonne on TV for trash talking Meghan. I have no idea what point he was trying to make by quoting Meghan's email to him about gun control in a UK publication. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is gun safety a big deal in the UK?
I'm thinking maybe it's the only bit of all the emails that had some substance so he published that, but he has written I think numerous articles pro gun control. It's an issue close to his heart.
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“In accepting the tiara, Meghan also accepted her place in the royal family, and I mean that literally. A tiara isn’t a crown. That belongs to the monarch and after The Queen, it will pass to Charles then to William and straight past Harry on to Prince George. Meghan doesn't just fall behind those in the direct line of succession but also Harry and even her sister-in-law, The Duchess of Cambridge. It's a top-down system and it’s the glue that keeps the monarchy intact.

Meghan might be the biggest star in the royal family right now and indeed the western hemisphere but her wedding day was the first and last time The Queen waits for her in church and Kate tries to make herself invisible. The reality of that will already be setting in but I know Americans who have lived in the UK for decades who are still baffled by the class system here. It’s what separates the two cultures. Americans are brought up being told they can be president while we Britons are told there’s no point in even trying to be king or queen because you have to be born to it. “

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I think it's getting tiring to read article after an article after article what Meghan has to get used to, how she wont be accepted, how horribly the Britons in their class system will treat her, how she simply never will understand it, because she's American, how she will get a horrible wake up call soon, how she will learn her place, how the protocol this and that..

Meghan has spent much of her adult life in the sexist, demeaning, belittling, racist, classist system of the acting world. She's an adult woman, who has lived and experienced life all over the world. Sure, she will experience new, and unpleasant things while learning her new role as the newest member of the BRF, but that happens everywhere, not just Britain. And most of her time won't be spent in the midst of these 'oh so stuffy aristos' but doing actual charity work, and that's an entirely different scene.
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Max Foster & CNN Europe has done non-stop (over-)reporting for months now. No wonder he is running out of topics to discuss & starts writing drivel like this. Quite shocking for a news station, especially considering all the newly created crises by Russian stooges, kleptocrats and fascists everywhere are setting much of the world on fire. This could be considered more important for a news channel to report than to write the 101th article about the royal wedding of that day. The way it is now CNN has become an entertainment channel, one step up from the Daily Mail.
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“In accepting the tiara, Meghan also accepted her place in the royal family, and I mean that literally. A tiara isn’t a crown. That belongs to the monarch and after The Queen, it will pass to Charles then to William and straight past Harry on to Prince George. Meghan doesn't just fall behind those in the direct line of succession but also Harry and even her sister-in-law, The Duchess of Cambridge. It's a top-down system and it’s the glue that keeps the monarchy intact.

Meghan might be the biggest star in the royal family right now and indeed the western hemisphere but her wedding day was the first and last time The Queen waits for her in church and Kate tries to make herself invisible. The reality of that will already be setting in but I know Americans who have lived in the UK for decades who are still baffled by the class system here. It’s what separates the two cultures. Americans are brought up being told they can be president while we Britons are told there’s no point in even trying to be king or queen because you have to be born to it. “

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