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Old 04-28-2019, 03:37 PM
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Why? I mean, the individual Instagram account was a terrible idea to start with. Add to it the way it's being handled and it's a clear invitation for people (and tabloids) to troll.

I can't blame them, it's my first instinct too.

Though I do agree, Harry's pictures should be left alone, they are actually really good.
What's specific on the Sussex Instagram account, that invites people and tabloids to troll? As far as I can remember, while Meghan and Harry were under KP Instagram, the comment section was filled with trolls, extremely nasty trolls. And these made up articles would be happening with or without Sussex own Instagram. I don't think Dailymail is running out of ideas on how to find fault in Meghan.

As for the individual Instagram accounts, don't all royal households have their individual social media accounts? Why should Sussexes be the exception?
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Old 04-28-2019, 03:53 PM
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I don’t really get it either. I can’t see anything on their IG account that invites trolling anymore then the other royal accounts. People who want to troll will troll, regardless of whether their accounts are separate or together.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:02 PM
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What's specific on the Sussex Instagram account, that invites people and tabloids to troll? As far as I can remember, while Meghan and Harry were under KP Instagram, the comment section was filled with trolls, extremely nasty trolls. And these made up articles would be happening with or without Sussex own Instagram. I don't think Dailymail is running out of ideas on how to find fault in Meghan.
Because people are always going to be nasty and there'll always be trolling. It's the Internet, you either accept it and deal with it or you try to pick a fight with sun. The only thing you can do is to not give them more reason to troll and be nasty, and that instagram gives them a lot of ammunition.

My biggest issue with it is the fact that they're making some poor media intern write as if they're the ones posting the pictures and comments. It's weird. Stop doing that. I mean, the pictures are nice? I guess? But the captions are overly long and jumping between the normal, official tone and the "I'm your next door neighbour" tone.

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As for the individual Instagram accounts, don't all royal households have their individual social media accounts? Why should Sussexes be the exception?
Wait, do all royal households have their own individual social media accounts? Because from working royals, I have three - Clarence House, Kensington Royal and The Royal Family, well four with the Sussex Royal, and I'm pretty sure there's more royal households than four.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:15 PM
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Wait, do all royal households have their own individual social media accounts? Because from working royals, I have three - Clarence House, Kensington Royal and The Royal Family, well four with the Sussex Royal, and I'm pretty sure there's more royal households than four.


Well five with the Prince Andrew of York has an Instagram Account. Duke of York also has a Twitter Account.

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Old 04-28-2019, 04:20 PM
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Because people are always going to be nasty and there'll always be trolling. It's the Internet, you either accept it and deal with it or you try to pick a fight with sun. The only thing you can do is to not give them more reason to troll and be nasty, and that instagram gives them a lot of ammunition.


Not trying to be dense here, but what is it about this specific IG account that invites trolling. The combined account had so many trolls even the media noticed.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:24 PM
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Not all the British royals do. Eugenie has one and I think her father but most come under one of the banner ones. Although KP is now exclusively the Cambridges. A lot of other royals world wide have personal public ones that they share personal pics and stories on. The Sussex one is nothing compared to some of them except the British media don't give a stuff about looking through them for stories to twist.

I don't think it's backfiring. They might have posted the photos on the KP one previously. And they're hardly washing dirty linen on SM like some (former) royals. The "uproar" over the wildlife pics is ridiculous to anyone who's watched any wildlife show where they routinely sedate and restrain animals when doing necessary procedures or tagging, for the animl's own safety and comfort and that of the people helping them.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:35 PM
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Well five with the Prince Andrew of York has an Instagram Account. Duke of York also has a Twitter Account.

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Oh, true, five. I completely forgot about Prince Andrew, thanks for that! Still more royal households than Instagram accounts though.

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Not all the British royals do. Eugenie has one and I think her father but most come under one of the banner ones.
I don't count Eugenie or Beatrice, because for me (since they're not working royals) they're private citizens with titles, so the situation there is a bit different.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:45 PM
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Because people are always going to be nasty and there'll always be trolling. It's the Internet, you either accept it and deal with it or you try to pick a fight with sun. The only thing you can do is to not give them more reason to troll and be nasty, and that instagram gives them a lot of ammunition.

My biggest issue with it is the fact that they're making some poor media intern write as if they're the ones posting the pictures and comments. It's weird. Stop doing that. I mean, the pictures are nice? I guess? But the captions are overly long and jumping between the normal, official tone and the "I'm your next door neighbour" tone.
I'm going to take it back to the social media trolling, because while the Sussexes were under KP, it was at its worst, to the point, that the social media guidelines had to be introduced. So it's definitely not the posts and how and what is posted, that invites the trolls. I haven't read through all of the sussexroyal comments, obviously, but what I've seen, there actually is much less trolling and negativity going on.

I'm taking, that the Sussexes instagram isn't to your personal taste, and that's perfectly fine. I like the posting style a lot. I find their posts very informative, interesting and inviting to learn more.
But just because you don't like their posting style, and I like it, makes no difference the Instagram account being a failure or not, or inviting to trolls. They're just different personal tastes.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:48 PM
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I'm going to take it back to the social media trolling, because while the Sussexes were under KP, it was at its worst, to the point, that the social media guidelines had to be introduced. So it's definitely not the posts and how and what is posted, that invites the trolls. I haven't read through all of the sussexroyal comments, obviously, but what I've seen, there actually is much less trolling and negativity going on.
I agree and have also noticed that there's been less trolling online (from what we know of or have seen) now that the Sussexes have moved out of Kensington Palace. Whilst there are still and will always (unfortunately) be trolls on social media aiming posts at Meghan, they've seemed to be a lot calmer recently.
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Why? I mean, the individual Instagram account was a terrible idea to start with. Add to it the way it's being handled and it's a clear invitation for people (and tabloids) to troll.

I can't blame them, it's my first instinct too.

Though I do agree, Harry's pictures should be left alone, they are actually really good.
Your first instinct is to troll?
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:50 PM
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Not all the British royals do. Eugenie has one and I think her father but most come under one of the banner ones. Although KP is now exclusively the Cambridges. A lot of other royals world wide have personal public ones that they share personal pics and stories on. The Sussex one is nothing compared to some of them except the British media don't give a stuff about looking through them for stories to twist.

I don't think it's backfiring. They might have posted the photos on the KP one previously. And they're hardly washing dirty linen on SM like some (former) royals. The "uproar" over the wildlife pics is ridiculous to anyone who's watched any wildlife show where they routinely sedate and restrain animals when doing necessary procedures or tagging, for the animl's own safety and comfort and that of the people helping them.
Completely agree with all of this. All royals on SM get troll comments, however the DM article about the wildlife photos of Harry's was so ignorant. I mean, who doesn't know you have to sedate animals in order to tag and track them.

Also, there is no backfiring. The same people who were leaving nasty comments on KP's twitter and Instagram accounts whenever a post were made about the Sussex's are the same ones writing their nasty (which now gets deleted) messages on the Sussex page. I also think that it's more controlled.

BTW...no one has any idea who is writing the posts whether it's Meghan or some "poor" intern.
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Old 04-28-2019, 04:56 PM
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Oh, true, five. I completely forgot about Prince Andrew, thanks for that! Still more royal households than Instagram accounts though.
The point is having a separate social media isn’t either or. It’s a decision that’s made on a case by case basis. The only other ones that would apply to is Anne and the Wessexes. And frankly, both of those have long established a way of communication before the social media age. Harry and Meghan are from a different generation and speaks to a different generation.

I’ve been very impressed with the SussexRoyal IG account. It’s very informative and engaging. Frankly, a good example of how to properly use IG to communicate. The tone isn’t much different than the other royal family accounts. They write it in a way that speaks on behalf of the royals, because they do represent the royals no matter who is writing them. It’s the longer captions that actually gives it substance compared to the very short and generic captions KP used to use on their IG. That’s what makes it more than “the pictures are nice? I guess?” Although, I hear they have since tried to change to the way Sussexes write their captions.

As for trolls, if one is to let potential trolls to stop them from doing something, might as well stay home and do nothing.
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Old 04-28-2019, 06:00 PM
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The SussexRoyal account is the only reason I signed up for Instagram. It is engaging and provides detailed information with lovely pictures.

I don’t read trashy tabloids and since several newspapers & magazines seem to just be copying and pasting rubbish tabloid articles, several are no longer worth reading.

The Royal Family website and the SussexRoyal Instagram account provides all the quality information needed.
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:49 PM
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All working Royal Households (Royal Family, Clarence House, Kensington Royal, Duke of York) have both Instagram Accounts and Twitter Accounts.
The Sussex Royal have Instagram Account only. They'll probably get a Twitter account too. I hope they do cause I really love their IG account.

The Princess Royal and the Wessexes are the only households without social media accounts.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:08 PM
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The SussexRoyal account is the only reason I signed up for Instagram. It is engaging and provides detailed information with lovely pictures.

I don’t read trashy tabloids and since several newspapers & magazines seem to just be copying and pasting rubbish tabloid articles, several are no longer worth reading.

The Royal Family website and the SussexRoyal Instagram account provides all the quality information needed.
Same here. I signed up for Instagram for the SussexRoyal account also. Can't say that I've checked it out often but I did notice one thing.

The information about the wildlife photos and post was first seen by me here and because of that, I went to the Instagram account to check it out further.
I'd noticed that in the post with the link was also a Daily Fail link. I just went to the IG account and didn't bother with the Fail article at all. I got to effectively see the "real" thing without the middleman and whatever spin the Fail wanted to put on it.

This is the point of the account and directly communicating with the public via SM eliminates the need there used to be for the media to deliver all the royal news and events to us. I'd very much rather see photographs that Harry took up front and personal than a professional photographer. I'd also prefer to see pictures of royal children taken by their parents rather than more professional ones at a photo op session.

We're not required to hunt for trolls when we visit the IG or Twitter accounts of anyone. We're there for the firsthand information that is made available for us by those that hold the account. I personally think its a good idea.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:33 PM
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This is the point of the account and directly communicating with the public via SM eliminates the need there used to be for the media to deliver all the royal news and events to us. I'd very much rather see photographs that Harry took up front and personal than a professional photographer. I'd also prefer to see pictures of royal children taken by their parents rather than more professional ones at a photo op session.
The use of a professional photographer is needed at times. And even the photos Kate took of her children were released to the media.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:50 PM
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The Sussex's Instagram account is a great idea! They gained a huge number of followers (a world record-breaking number of followers) within the first 4 to 8 hours, and still growing. The account is 'doing just fine,' as Meghan might say. Plus so far, it's well written and informative. Sussex fans the world over are excited about M&H having this outlet to share their projects, advocacy and fund-raising efforts, and to speak directly to the public.

It's the media, OTOH, who really need to learn how to control and monitor themselves. That's one of the biggest problems in the royal sphere right now. Additional problems are interfering, out-of-touch royal courtiers, and lack of diversity among royal reporters.

Times, they are a-changing. Stay tuned...
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Old 04-28-2019, 09:24 PM
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So the move to Africa is now just a tour in October..

https://twitter.com/royanikkhah/stat...228103687?s=21


That’s probably all it ever was.
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The use of a professional photographer is needed at times. And even the photos Kate took of her children were released to the media.
Of course. We see this with the impending presentation of Baby Sussex to the world. 1 photographer, 1 reporter and 1 camera will be allowed access to share with the rest of the world. Eliminates the three ring media circus all vying for that "best story" and "best photo" spot.

The media is definitely not going to go away but with recent moves of releasing photographs taken by parents and information released on personal social media accounts, it is implementing more control by the royals of the actual content they release.

Its all good.
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Right. That was my first thought too. The Sussexes already cleared that up in any case via Omid Scobie's Harper's article.

There was also some clarification in the press statement from BP, in the aftermath of the confusing Times articles that unleashed copycat stories and subsequent spinning and back-tracking. The Sussexes were never planning on moving to any country in Africa permanently.

I guess Canada and the U.S. in particular will have to wait till after the 2020 election for visits by the Sussexes.
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