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Old 04-14-2019, 01:57 PM
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This is how the Fail and other tabloids stay alive and rake in the green dollars. Journalism its not at its best there at all. Uncle Joe is the flavor of the month right now but soon he'll even reach his expiration date as the Markles have.
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:01 PM
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Cocoasneeze - the Markles I was referring to were those like Ashleigh and Christopher Hale, Sam's kids from her first marriage. I believed Meghan and Ashleigh were close (shown on the Tic blog) . Those two kept their heads down but must be mortifying for them.

The Meghan Chronicles part 3 by uncle Joe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-friends.html

Meghan's birthday party with maternal cousins and other children. A family dinner with Jr and Sam as teenagers. I'm perturbed by DM's caption of the dinner picture: "Siblings before they turned toxic". I don't know if DM's plan is to show the Markle family feud is not Meghan's fault and here's why as explained in the slow rollout but this is something Meghan doesn't need now and I hope Harry is taking good care of her.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:52 PM
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I'm glad to see that Meghan had a warm family. Her Uncle and his kids obviously liked sharing time with her and keeping the photos. It's totally normal for children to grow up, fly the coop and not see as much of their Uncles and cousins unless they live nearby. Kids become independent but it doesn't deplete their connection or erase family importance.

Often family just takes off where they stopped last time they met - like old school friends. There is a heart and blood connection. Families don't have to see each other often to know that they can always call for help. I don't hear any bitterness from Meghan's Uncle, only pride and, while I don't agree with him publishing the pictures, he is exposing a pretty common upbringing.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:46 PM
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Cocoasneeze - the Markles I was referring to were those like Ashleigh and Christopher Hale, Sam's kids from her first marriage. I believed Meghan and Ashleigh were close (shown on the Tic blog) . Those two kept their heads down but must be mortifying for them.
Luckily for them, they're even mentioned in any articles, because they've kept a really low profile, and haven't courted any attention. I believe they've known for years what their relatives are like, and none of this is a surprise for them. Added, they don't go by the last name Markle, so they just might not feel, that their name or reputation is ruined in any way. Jmho, again.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:10 AM
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Their names are constantly brought up whenever their mother is. So Markles or not, they certainly have got some press. Whether they courted it or not. The press just seems to have kept away from them.

Christopher it may be as no one really knows anything about him. Or where he is. Samantha doesn't sell her own kids it seems unlike her sister. Ashleigh is an attorney with a big form in DC. But of course that is known from Meghan's Instagram and the whole 'inspiration for Suits character' story line.

They likely had very little contact with the Markles growing up. They were raised by their paternal grandparents (not sure where dad was, maybe him too). It would have been easy enough for them to both have been at the wedding which was speculated and not have been noticed. The rare photo of Ashleigh wouldn't have been enough in the crowd. I don't believe we have ever seen a photo of Christopher. Could be wrong.
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:54 AM
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Y’all acting like y’all don’t know how it is with family. Sometimes it’s best to keep the peace by distancing yourself from some family members. Don’t send them birthday cards, Christmas cards and don’t invite them to your wedding because then some family members will know where you live and that you’re still alive. That’s how the cookie crumbles.
I know this has been talked to death here, but I'd just like to add to this that the distancing could have begun long before Meghan had a say in anything. For reasons that have nothing to do with her. At least some of us it must have; for that uncle not to have had contact with her for 20 years means something broke down before she was an adult.

When your parents become distant from family, you just don't get to really know that family in a meaningful way.

But it's also important to recognize that a family growing distant doesn't always mean anything bad or toxic happened (although maybe it did here, we don't know).

All of my grandparents were the type who wanted to get out and see the big, wide world. They chose lives that took them far from where they grew up and didn't go "home" often. They met and married people from other places, which cut even more into the frequency of either couple going "home" because there were two "homes" to visit and both took a lot of effort and planning. For the most part, their siblings didn't have that sense of wanderlust and didn't understand why they chose the lives they did. They grew farther and farther apart from their family back home, not because anything was wrong or toxic but just because they were really different people. As a result, neither of my parents really know their extended family very well. And that's ok. They're happy people with rich lives, just not people who are close to their cousins or aunts or uncles. My own aunts and uncles have never lived geographically close, either. I like them, I know them (ish), but I don't really invite them to all that much of what happens in my life or expect to be invited by them. They're more just Christmas card relatives, largely because that's the kind of family connection they are most familiar with, and we're all ok with it. We like each other fine, we're just not close.

Doria's parents left the South behind for California at roughly the same time that my grandparents were finding it very hard to keep up long-distance family relationships. There's a strong possibility that Doria grew up without having a ton of contact with her extended family, just for practical reasons. And that may have left her without feeling a strong need to maintain extended family relationships in her own life as she raised her daughter. Meghan may just not really know a lot of this family in the kind of way that leaves you feeling obliged to invite folks to things like weddings.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:01 PM
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New Video:
World Vision has released new images and video of the then, Meghan Markle’s, trip to Delhi and Mumbai for her charity work-
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-17/...eased-footage/
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World Vision has released new images and video of the then, Meghan Markle’s, trip to Delhi and Mumbai for her charity work-
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-17/...eased-footage/
A very meaningful charity to support.
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Old 04-18-2019, 05:11 AM
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I'm not sure where to put this so perhaps Mods could move it if it's in the wrong place.
https://news.sky.com/story/trolling-...nancy-11696606

"Research commissioned by Sky News has found that Meghan is the subject of frequent conspiracy-led and racist attacks on social media sites."

"The abuse of Meghan Markle is unprecedented - fuelled by racism and negative media coverage - and does not appear to be stopping any time soon."
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Old 04-18-2019, 06:43 AM
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There has been a steady stream of negative comments which are not removed from media outlets.
I have not noticed any nasty comments fuelled by racism. I have not seen that, personally. I've read opinions about spending, protocol, acting, faking, ghosting - mostly uncalled for.
Quite a number are fuelled by Meghan's relatives.

I have also witnessed lots of positive stories in the newspaper and on TV - particularly when Harry and Meghan were in Australia. It was total positivity.
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Old 04-18-2019, 06:48 AM
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https://youtu.be/4wCu0tiMdvw

Everybody sees what everybody wants to see.

If there weren't a problem why would Richard Palmer post this? It seems that he is now starting to acknowledge that indeed there are issues that seem to be summarily dismissed

https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...93886825107456
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Old 04-18-2019, 07:32 AM
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There has been a steady stream of negative comments which are not removed from media outlets.
I have not noticed any nasty comments fuelled by racism. I have not seen that, personally. I've read opinions about spending, protocol, acting, faking, ghosting - mostly uncalled for.
Quite a number are fuelled by Meghan's relatives.

I have also witnessed lots of positive stories in the newspaper and on TV - particularly when Harry and Meghan were in Australia. It was total positivity.
I think we need to understand that racism is no longer just blatantly stated. And while her relatively have not helped matters, a lot of it is certainly not from them or originated from there. They’ve hitched onto the bandwagon on some, but it was certainly already there. It’s the ever shifting goal post and the double standards. It’s that every positive thing she does is picked apart while others get credit for far less. What is good for another Royal is negative when Meghan does it. It’s the tone of the coverage. It’s one thing to say it breaks from tradition, but what the tone of the rest of the article changes it from a positive step forward to a negative snubbing scenario. It’s the othering of her. And we see that on a regular basis.

I should point out that I see that type of things a lot less in foreign media than British. In fact, some part of foreign media are starting to calling them out. Hell, some in Britain are starting to call them out, but it’s more from the Guardian, Metro, and Medium calling out traditional tabloids.

Btw, some of this, I’m well aware, isn’t done on purpose. It’s something that’s been ingrained in society through decades of double standards and stereotyping. Some have complained about the lack of diversity in RRs as part of the problem. Where they think it’s not racism unless it’s blatant. But in fact it is by adopting the dog whistling in their pieces.
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Old 04-18-2019, 07:32 AM
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I think Palmer wants to have this sit down because they are seeing the media organizations' bottom line and the reporters' and presenters ' reputations take a hit because of the coverage of Meghan. They may also realize the change in the presentation of Baby Sussex may be due to their actions. Palmer could realize bullying the Sussexes will not get them what they want. 4.7 million followers on Instagram are hard to ignore their popularity and he wants to show that some in the media are willing to clean up their act. We'll see. They can start by cutting off the Markles. If they do insist on interviewing them the media needs to fact check them, vet current and previous statements and ask tough questions about their pasts.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:14 AM
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Personally I feel the arrival of Baby Sussex (who is of mixed race!) has many wanting to make it clear they don’t agree with the trolling nor are actively encouraging it. That’s what I got from Palmer’s tweets. It would seem recently he became aware fellow Britons of color feel a certain way so he wants a dialogue.

Nothing wrong with that. This royal baby’s racial background could trigger some things so I don’t fault anyone for wanting to get ahead of it. Will it make a difference? Time will tell.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:19 AM
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I agree that it has started to seep through some RR's heads and perhaps hopefully their editors, that the Sussexes aren't going to keep 'smiling through' and always cooperating no matter what, particularly where the birth of their child is concerned. And why should they?

All those pages and pages of newsprint and photos the tabloids were expecting as a result of the emerging from hospital and standing on the steps with Baby Sussex aren't going to happen now, and it's starting to hit with a whooomph!

The coverage in Australia from our media in Australia was fantastic during the Sussexes tour. I think that some of the British Press contingent were taken aback, as they expected to encounter outright and nasty republican sentiment here.

As an Aussie and supporter of Harry and Meghan I'm not ashamed to admit I was proud of their welcome by the crowds and homegrown media. And then the couple went home and there was wall to wall negativity almost immediately.

It's been awful, snide, sarcastic and nasty. However, I do believe that it is being driven to a large extent by thousands of people on social media, some of whom seep onto the comments section of the Fail. And they are too cunning to exhibit overt racism. It's always disguised as something else.

I feel desperately sad but I just don't feel that while that huge block of anti-Meghan social media is on the internet that anything is going to change, until another target is found in a few years time.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:54 AM
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What I find extremely disappointing is the royal reporters, correspondents and journalists have gone along or did very little to help fan away the constant false attacks Meghan has endured over these several months. We can tell that things started to go way down south after the big royal tour and it hasn’t stopped since then.
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I've seen Victoria Arbiter and Omid both stand up against the crowd. Maybe Chris Shipp....not sure past that.


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Old 04-18-2019, 10:21 AM
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I've seen Victoria Arbiter and Omid both stand up against the crowd. Maybe Chris Shipp....not sure past that.


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Keir Simmons as well, but he works for a US network. Benjamin Wareing wrote a piece about it on the Medium, but he hasn't been in the royal photography that long.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:27 AM
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Keir Simmons as well, but he works for a US network. Benjamin Wareing wrote a piece about it on the Medium, but he hasn't been in the royal photography that long.
Benjamin in college and yes very young still..just getting in. I follow him, haven't seen him being critical at least. Not sure I remember him pushing back but again...he's new to it all.


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Old 04-18-2019, 10:35 AM
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What I find extremely disappointing is the royal reporters, correspondents and journalists have gone along or did very little to help fan away the constant false attacks Meghan has endured over these several months. We can tell that things started to go way down south after the big royal tour and it hasn’t stopped since then.
I don't expect them too. Omid is of mixed race himself so he as a personal stake in it and know the dog whispers more than anyone. It is what it is. Most the time things aren't deliberate and it takes a peer to bring attention to it for someone to step back.

I think a lot of the outside press coverage and publications who typically don't care about the royals suddenly writing think pieces around the cruelty thrown at Meghan makes people take pause. It is hard not to. This is the 3rd article about online trolling now. The palace had to issue their own guidelines. We are all aware.

I just don't see it changing. And sadly I do have sadness in my heart because I know Baby Sussex will get this nastiness too for no reason other than being the child of Meghan and the grandchild of someone who looks like Doria.

But it is NOT everyone and people need to make that clear too. In fact I think these trolls are the minority but that just are very, very loud.
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