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Old 02-17-2019, 12:11 PM
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I agree that Meg's father is a bit of an oddball and its hard to trust him. But I'd say he was less likely to tape a conversation than to release a letter..
the best thing IMo would have been for her to visit him before she got engaged.. not left things to just before the wedding which is when he seems to have become a bit flakey, and then ended up not able to go...
I don't know with the influence of Samantha and the media I have no doubt that a conversation would have been recorded. Also if it was only recorded one way then he could have lied about pieces from the conversation. He has shown that he has no problem lying about his daughter for money.

That being said, I have frequently seen it recommended to someone in a difficult relationship to write down their thoughts they want to say/share with the other person as a way to release the feelings.

Based on what happened I believe that a letter was actually the best action.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:14 PM
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The fact is that for some parts of the British media & society, Meghan has committed the crime of becoming a royal Duchess while not being white.
Nonsense. What happens to Meghan did happen to Lady Diana, to Camilla Shand, to Sarah Ferguson, to Catherine Middleton, to Princess Margaret. Sadly a firm part of British media is a pack of merciless blood-thirsty hounds. Was not Meghan the spouse of Prince Harry, but Mette-Marit, she would have received the same "treatment".

And in Meghan's case it is even her very own family who delivers the fuel for the witch burning.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:17 PM
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Meghan was willing to bring Thomas to the UK. He didn’t want to do that. He cut off communication with her. She tried to talk to him. If she had gone to see him, I believe the tabs would have been there to document the entire encounter. It wouldn’t have been a reunion between father and daughter but an ambush by the Markels. Meghan knows her father and knew the best way to handle him was from a distance. The letter was her last ditch effort to get him to act decently towards her and her husband and he failed.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:18 PM
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Btw, all of this is making Samantha Markle very happy.
Samantha has visions of lotsa green dollars floating into her bank account from not one but *two* books she's writing about Meghan. The first is to be released around the time the Sussex child is born. Blatant cashing in if you ask me.

I don't like to wish ill on anyone but I sincerely hope people do not buy Ms. Grant's book(s). I know I won't.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:20 PM
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Btw, all of this is making Samantha Markle very happy.
Of course she is happy. She loves that Thomas and Meghan are at odds. She has made it no secret that she hates Meghan and has hated her since the day she was born. She feels Meghan stole her life just by existing.

Samantha thrives off attention. It doesn't matter if it is negative as long as you are talking about her. So she will ride this wave as long as she can and she has clear allies with the media. So it will never end.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:23 PM
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Samantha has visions of lotsa green dollars floating into her bank account from not one but *two* books she's writing about Meghan. The first is to be released around the time the Sussex child is born. Blatant cashing in if you ask me.

I don't like to wish ill on anyone but I sincerely hope people do not buy Ms. Grant's book(s). I know I won't.
I doubt that we will see any book. It is obvious she does not know her. And given the state of affairs I do not see any editor running the risk of lawsuits for libel since everything she has got is just fabrication if not straight lies. Remember she was supposed to be in the cast of celebrity big brother UK. We know how it ended
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:28 PM
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I agree that Meg's father is a bit of an oddball and its hard to trust him. But I'd say he was less likely to tape a conversation than to release a letter..
the best thing IMo would have been for her to visit him before she got engaged.. not left things to just before the wedding which is when he seems to have become a bit flakey, and then ended up not able to go...
After all the phone calls to her father went unanswered, it was a good thing that she wrote the letter. Last month, Jan 2019, BBC News & other media showed him pleading with the Queen to intervene. All these manipulations & lies by media & him when he had the letter since August 2018.

All visiting him prior to the wedding would’ve done was provide him with more recent photos of Meghan to sell.

In regards to the manipulative Sunday Times article, Her Majesty also supports diversity. In October 2018, the Duchess of Sussex announced 2 new scholarships on behalf of The Queen. Both to assist in empowering female university staff & promoting gender equality.

https://www.acu.ac.uk/news/view?id=2...0%5D=news/list

I guess some people & The Sunday Times didn’t think an article about The Queen supporting gender equality would get much clicks so they used Duchess Meghan instead. Just more shameful bullying by some people & the media.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:54 PM
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Nonsense. What happens to Meghan did happen to Lady Diana, to Camilla Shand, to Sarah Ferguson, to Catherine Middleton, to Princess Margaret. Sadly a firm part of British media is a pack of merciless blood-thirsty hounds. Was not Meghan the spouse of Prince Harry, but Mette-Marit, she would have received the same "treatment".

And in Meghan's case it is even her very own family who delivers the fuel for the witch burning.
All of that is true except for your 1st word. What I said isn't nonsense. Meghan is receiving all the dross thrown at others but with the additional angle that she's biracial & some people can't cope with a non-white HRH to whom they should curtsey. I know people like that. I live amongst people like that (not most people but a significant minority). I hear what they say & I'm not repeating it here. Some of the press is giving some sections of our society what they want to read about.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:02 PM
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I doubt that we will see any book. It is obvious she does not know her. And given the state of affairs I do not see any editor running the risk of lawsuits for libel since everything she has got is just fabrication if not straight lies. Remember she was supposed to be in the cast of celebrity big brother UK. We know how it ended
The book(s) are supposed to be Samantha's tell all on Meghan's childhood and a whole lot about the life and times of Samantha herself. I just don't really see people being overly interested in a blow by blow tale about Samantha. In fact, she's so gung ho on this project that the second book is to be called "In The Shadow Of The Duchess: Part Two". This is strange to me as most authors would compile it all into one book. This way, Sam gets double the money as people avidly dole out the big bucks and buy two books.

We'll see what happens. Although I know there are people that are very interested in anything Meghan and everything about her life, I just don't see the interest really being there for the general public. The majority of the people who are interested in Meghan (like us royal watchers) are more interested in her life now and her royal role.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:07 PM
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I agree that Meg's father is a bit of an oddball and its hard to trust him. But I'd say he was less likely to tape a conversation than to release a letter..
the best thing IMo would have been for her to visit him before she got engaged.. not left things to just before the wedding which is when he seems to have become a bit flakey, and then ended up not able to go...
If a meeting in person is so important, flights go both ways. We’ve seen Doria visit Meghan in Canada multiple times and we know Meghan has gone to LA. But I’ve never seen Thomas go to Canada to visit his daughter even though he probably has more time to travel than either Meghan or Doria who had jobs.

He became flakey because of his ego. He was complaining about things being said about him. Yet far worse was said about Doria and her side of family from the beginning. She managed to handle things with grace and class. So it doesn’t seem to be the level of assistance.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:13 PM
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All of that is true except for your 1st word. What I said isn't nonsense. Meghan is receiving all the dross thrown at others but with the additional angle that she's biracial & some people can't cope with a non-white HRH to whom they should curtsey. I know people like that. I live amongst people like that (not most people but a significant minority). I hear what they say & I'm not repeating it here. Some of the press is giving some sections of our society what they want to read about.
There is also a sense of anti-Americanism on top of it. I’ve even seen such behavior on some RRs’ twitter feed. And those are the people covering her engagements as part of their job.

You also have to add in the fact that Meghan is really the first one marrying into BRF in social media age. Things move far faster and wider. Guardian was right that things used to play out in 15 years is now playing out in 15 months with little concern over accuracy. If one publication writes a gossip article, the other follows suit quickly without verification and it’s been repeated so much by dinner time that it’s treated as truth even though most haven’t done their homework.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:38 PM
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Victoria Arbiter has been fighting press online who have twisted her words. One even apologized to her. Just goes to show how little people are verifying what they print and all it is is a race to publish for clicks. They don't care if it is true or not. Doesn't matter.

They just make assumptions and run with it. Another great example were all the pictures about how they posted a tent at Frogmore Cottage when in reality it was over the mausoleum that was getting repaired.

https://www.rexfeatures.com/search/?...uester=&iprs=f

I just thought it was pretty funny cause so many articles were written about this and they were completely wrong. Will they correct themselves? Of course not. On to the next story instead. That is the real tale of the press now.
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:55 PM
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All of that is true except for your 1st word. What I said isn't nonsense. Meghan is receiving all the dross thrown at others but with the additional angle that she's biracial & some people can't cope with a non-white HRH to whom they should curtsey.

Nobody actually has to curtsy to royals. It is entirely optional these days, unless you are part of the royal staff of course, in which case it would be probably awkward if you didn't curtsy.
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:16 PM
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There is also a sense of anti-Americanism on top of it.
Undeniably there is a strand of anti-Americanism in both our Press and our populace, just as there is an anti-British strand in both sectors in the USA- ive been reading the New York Times lately [with reference to Brexit] and i'm amazed it has so great 'a problem' with the UK...

It is simply 'the way of the World'...
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:32 PM
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Meghan is just the new Princess Pushy people love to hate, social medias added.
It will pass with the first child and age, then the interest will shift to another royal. Nothing new here.
The thing is that her colorful family doesn't help to round out the angles.
Oh well ...
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:41 PM
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I think there's more of an edge to the Anti Meghan stuff.... but having said that, most women who marry into a Royal family seem to get some very nasty flak on social media or the Internet these days.
And her family certainly doesn't help. There si all this messy stuff from them and it gives her detractors material to be nasty about...
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:41 PM
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Nobody actually has to curtsy to royals. It is entirely optional these days, unless you are part of the royal staff of course, in which case it would be probably awkward if you didn't curtsy.
I didn't say has to I said should. In the circles I'm talking about, it's considered the appropriate thing to do but of course it's not compulsory.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:22 PM
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Dad wants to be at Baby Sussex's Christening. ..as a birthday gift to Dad himself.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...mpression=true

I bring in this article to show the fast and loose reporting to get clicks. First Sr was born in July not August. A Wikipedia search would have cleared that up. Second Dad wanted a photo op of Meghan and Harry but at the christening there would be an official picture released with members of the BRF and people from Meghan's family. Dad gets his photo op. Third Dad's answer back interview he wanted Meghan to give him money to move. Now he says his life is in danger and he needs to move. As an American citizen Dad's recourse is local law enforcement and the US embassy in Mexico and not the British taxpayer or the Sussexes.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:53 PM
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Thomas will see Baby Sussex via the papers like the rest of us. Just go away. He is the worst.
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Yeps. That's the ticket. Do and say all those things that a daughter asks you not to do and once its realized its totally messed things up, again, make a list of demands that put the blame for every nasty thing in life that has occurred on said daughter with the expectation that its up to her to make things right as its all *her* fault.

The man's reality check is bouncing.
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