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Old 03-27-2012, 04:04 PM
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Don't you realize that they've not been on vacation all this time but actually teaching Lupo the royal ropes of jumping through hoops and how to properly bark at appropriate times? OH.. almost forgot... learning NOT to dig up Grampa Charles prize flowerbeds when he's visiting Highgrove too.
The image I have of this in my head is priceless (especially the one of Lupo diligently digging up Charles' plants ).
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:10 PM
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Ha ha. Love it. What an image :)
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The image I have of this in my head is priceless (especially the one of Lupo diligently digging up Charles' plants ).
Dogs visiting vegetarian households don't dig up flowerbeds - because they have no bones to bury... But I'm sure he will love a good chew on the pillows...
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:15 PM
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:19 PM
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Oh for God's sake...The man's been away on duty in the Falklands for six weeks and we all know what Kate's been doing. If they went on Holiday to both unwind a wee bit and also reconnect after a stressful two months for them, then Good For Them!!

It's not a mistake or a miss step in strategy. It's a blinking holiday for crying out loud for two people who obviously would not have gone if they thought it would be looked at negatively. Especially after the last two months and that William literally got home little over a week ago. More than likely he's on leave, so..!?!

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Old 03-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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If William needs a vacation after six weeks of duty, it would seem he does not have much stamina. Just thinking outloud.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:25 PM
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Don't you realize that they've not been on vacation all this time but actually teaching Lupo the royal ropes of jumping through hoops and how to properly bark at appropriate times? OH.. almost forgot... learning NOT to dig up Grampa Charles prize flowerbeds when he's visiting Highgrove too.
No, not the flowers, we'll be at Highgrove for a tour of the gardens in about two weeks and I can hardly wait.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:38 PM
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Oh for God's sake...The man's been away on duty in the Falklands for six weeks and we all know what Kate's been doing. If they went on Holiday to both unwind a wee bit and also reconnect after a stressful two months for them, then Good For Them!!
Not sure what was stressful in the past two month for them, leading the life of an army couple? I doubt every serviceman or sericewoman who is deployed abroad, probably in a war zone unlike the Falklands, gets a holiday every six weeks and has a partner who is stressed out after working on a handful of days within these six weeks. Six weeks apart is nothing for people who chose such a career, usually its much longer.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:39 PM
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The paps can find anyone if they really want to. Mustique is a private island for goodness sake; paps aren't allowed to go onto the island at all and yet they still manage to get pictures.

Had William and Kate not been on holiday already this year, I would have no issue with it. But, they have been. On top of that we're told that Kate won't do any engagements for the next month or so - that's just too long. I think she should be aiming to do at least 1 engagement per week. That allows her to be with William when he's not on a shift (my dad works 12 hour shifts and when my mum was working full time they would go for several days at a time seeing very little of each other, but since my mum took early retirement they're able to be together a lot more) and yet look like she's doing her bit.

I feel BP/CH have been pretty upfront about the fact that she wouldn't be taking on a full royal schedule. I think most people have accepted that and understand it. But if they're going to take expensive foreign holidays (which, as I pointed out earlier have a significant cost to the taxpayer) every couple of months, we need to see Kate more often.

The irony of all this is, no royals take more holidays than the Queen and DoE. When you think of the time they spend at Balmoral and Sandringham alone (we go several weeks without the Queen performing public engagements when she's at both estates) they have a lot of down time. Of course the red boxes follow the Queen wherever she goes, but because they only ever holiday in the UK no one bats an eyelid.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:46 PM
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Not sure what was stressful in the past two month for them, leading the life of an army couple? I doubt every serviceman or sericewoman who is deployed abroad, probably in a war zone unlike the Falklands, gets a holiday every six weeks and has a partner who is stressed out after working on a handful of days within these six weeks. Six weeks apart is nothing for people who chose such a career, usually its much longer.
Possibly true, but then those other couples of which you speak can probably go for a walk in the park, go to the movies or out to dinner, go shopping for groceries, go out for a night on the town without getting up the next day and seeing their private time pictured in the morning papers. These other couples could also go on vacation, if they chose to, without paparazzi and people with cell phone cameras, trying to track them down everywhere from the Caribbean to the Alps and when no pictures are available still write about the vacation as if it was fact.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:53 PM
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The paps can find anyone if they really want to. Mustique is a private island for goodness sake; paps aren't allowed to go onto the island at all and yet they still manage to get pictures.

Had William and Kate not been on holiday already this year, I would have no issue with it. But, they have been. On top of that we're told that Kate won't do any engagements for the next month or so - that's just too long. I think she should be aiming to do at least 1 engagement per week. That allows her to be with William when he's not on a shift (my dad works 12 hour shifts and when my mum was working full time they would go for several days at a time seeing very little of each other, but since my mum took early retirement they're able to be together a lot more) and yet look like she's doing her bit.

I feel BP/CH have been pretty upfront about the fact that she wouldn't be taking on a full royal schedule. I think most people have accepted that and understand it. But if they're going to take expensive foreign holidays (which, as I pointed out earlier have a significant cost to the taxpayer) every couple of months, we need to see Kate more often.

The irony of all this is, no royals take more holidays than the Queen and DoE. When you think of the time they spend at Balmoral and Sandringham alone (we go several weeks without the Queen performing public engagements when she's at both estates) they have a lot of down time. Of course the red boxes follow the Queen wherever she goes, but because they only ever holiday in the UK no one bats an eyelid.
I agree with your post, would like to add:
- Most times the Middletons are with them and are benefitting from the taxpayer-funded security, doesnt go down well in public.
- Its ok not to be full time royals and I find 1 event per week a lot. 2 a month would do it for me but announcing that Kate will have one month off to do - to do what? go on holiday? Are they serious?
- I dont mind the Queen & Duke taking down time at all. They are 85 & 90!!! Most people of their age group are either sick, dead or in care homes so whatever they do, its more than expected from them. They had all excuses in the world to do NOTHING and let C & C step in but they don't. Only time will tell how WillKat will turn out, maybe they just fool us with all the holidays and are hard workers behind the scenes just too good a thought to be true.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:58 PM
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OK, why don't we just leave them alone until their 2 years are up; that is just a year and a month. No need to spend time on public people who don't want to do public things. Let them hole up on Angelsey for that time, then throw them to the wolves.

Anyone who would begrudge the HM and Duke down time are just plain crazy.
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:00 PM
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I agree with your post, would like to add:
- Most times the Middletons are with them and are benefitting from the taxpayer-funded security, doesnt go down well in public.
- Its ok not to be full time royals and I find 1 event per week a lot. 2 a month would do it for me but announcing that Kate will have one month off to do - to do what? go on holiday? Are they serious?
- I dont mind the Queen & Duke taking down time at all. They are 85 & 90!!! Most people of their age group are either sick, dead or in care homes so whatever they do, its more than expected from them. They had all excuses in the world to do NOTHING and let C & C step in but they don't. Only time will tell how WillKat will turn out, maybe they just fool us with all the holidays and are hard workers behind the scenes just too good a thought to be true.
Did I miss something, when did the Middleton's get taxpayer funded security?
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In fairness, I think William and Kate really do enjoy the company of Kate's parents and siblings. It's natural for families to holiday together and there's no way they can do so without the Middletons indirectly benefiting from the presence of the security. Unless you suggest that they don't have protection when abroad which is just a non-starter.

My point about the Queen and DoE is that that has been their schedule for decades. They haven't suddenly started taking several weeks holiday on several occasions each year when they became elderly. The point is, the Queen can take a month long holiday in Scotland and no-one cares. If she took a month long holiday in the Seychelles there'd be more of an issue. I don't want this to come across as if I'm accusing the Queen and the DoE of being lazy, I absolutely do not believe that. At 90 the DoE works harder than most other monarchs and heirs to the throne elsewhere who are all considerably younger than him. But they've managed to find a balance that works for everyone. Charles and Camilla are the same. William and Kate have yet to do so.
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:12 PM
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Not sure what was stressful in the past two month for them, leading the life of an army couple? I doubt every serviceman or sericewoman who is deployed abroad, probably in a war zone unlike the Falklands, gets a holiday every six weeks and has a partner who is stressed out after working on a handful of days within these six weeks. Six weeks apart is nothing for people who chose such a career, usually its much longer.
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The paps can find anyone if they really want to. Mustique is a private island for goodness sake; paps aren't allowed to go onto the island at all and yet they still manage to get pictures.

Had William and Kate not been on holiday already this year, I would have no issue with it. But, they have been. On top of that we're told that Kate won't do any engagements for the next month or so - that's just too long. I think she should be aiming to do at least 1 engagement per week. That allows her to be with William when he's not on a shift (my dad works 12 hour shifts and when my mum was working full time they would go for several days at a time seeing very little of each other, but since my mum took early retirement they're able to be together a lot more) and yet look like she's doing her bit.
Completely agree with everything you three ladies said, this couple send confusing messages and it's not all the media's fault.
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I think this is very true - they CAN'T win, so why should they pander to a public that will never be 100% satisfied with their efforts? As has been pointed out in this thread, there are no two people who have kept their noses to the grindstone like The Queen and DoE and yet when, for example, the DM has a story regarding something they've done, there are still plenty of b**tchy comments about how they're lazy and a waste of tax payers' money. You'd probably hear the same complaints if you went back in time to any point in the history of the British monarchy and yet the institution survives and thrives.
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Completely agree with everything you three ladies said, this couple send confusing messages and it's not all the media's fault.
What exactly is the confusing message? I don't think they ever announced that either of them would be full time working royals doing 400+ engagements each year. Everyone knows that Williams priority was his SAR career, and engagements need to be fitted around that time as needed. There is no shortage of working royals currently undertaking engagements. We already knew Catherine would not be undertaking engagements for a month.

I think it is more an issue of people just wanting to see pictures of them in the papers everyday so they can comment on clothes and hair and jewels.

Between the Jubilee and the Olympics this summer and the planned visit to Asia/Pacific there will be plenty of pics for people to comment on.
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What exactly is the confusing message? I don't think they ever announced that either of them would be full time working royals doing 400+ engagements each year. Everyone knows that Williams priority was his SAR career, and engagements need to be fitted around that time as needed. There is no shortage of working royals currently undertaking engagements. We already knew Catherine would not be undertaking engagements for a month.
Indeed everyone knows William's priority is his SAR career, and his second seems to be going on holiday, then fitting his potential royal engagements around that. With this holiday thing, it's almost like Catherine worked extra hours so she could have longer off. Like you would in a normal job perhaps.

With this couple, I think i'm in the all or nothing category. This attempt at a combined royal and normal life just doesn't work for me.
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How do you know they gone on holiday? It pure speculation. The press have no pictures.

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How do you know they gone on holiday? It pure speculation. The press have no pictures.

If you notice, I said "with this holiday thing". Whilst we don't know that they have gone, we don't know they haven't. Newspapers can get bored, but this holiday in Verbier has been picked up by 5 different newspapers, and I've read the Mustique visit next month in 3 of the same papers.
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