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Old 03-25-2012, 06:19 PM
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Wherever they are, hope they're having a wonderful time and enjoying themselves.
I agree!
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:21 PM
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But, for as long as Kate is not working as a full time royal, some could say she's enjoying all the benefits of being a member of the RF, without actually putting in the hours. That's the sort of thing that would take some time to overcome from a PR point of view.
No matter what Kate does, she IS a member of the BRF and as such is entitled to anything and everything that goes along with it. None of the BRF punch time clocks or are even required to do a certain number events per month or such but they all are extremely dedicated people to their country.

It could very possibly well be that any one of the BRF could have had a preference for a hedonistic lifestyle such as its been reported that David and Wallis had. As time passes and the monarchy turns to Charles and William and Kate become full time working royals, they'll be working just as hard as HM and Charles are now I bet.

Just one thing more about Kate's "work". When I really think about it, perhaps its not quantity that matters so much in what she does but more so quality. In just one visit to EACH recently she not only drew attention to this organization but had so many responses to the bracelet that they were sold out. To me that is amazing.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:40 PM
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The difficulty with the holiday issue, for me and I suspect a good proportion of the public, is that Kate is not working full time as a royal and so it can seem that she's not 'pulling her weight'. If she were even doing say a Camilla-level number of engagements I don't think people would have too much problem with several holidays. William is independently wealthy in his own right and most would say, well if I were in their position I'd do it too.

But, for as long as Kate is not working as a full time royal, some could say she's enjoying all the benefits of being a member of the RF, without actually putting in the hours. That's the sort of thing that would take some time to overcome from a PR point of view.
I agree. I've read some of the posts on the DM site today as the paper is saying that they are going to Verbier. There is a great deal of anger and dislike for Catherine which is now also being directed at Prince William and even comments about him and Harry "milking" their mother's death. Appalling I know.

William and Harry both like to wind-up the press and lay false trails but this can easily backfire and the DM is not going to print an article saying that they printed incorrect information.

The Duke and Duchess need to rethink their strategy, take advice from the Queen and if the current workload is all Catherine is going to do, then that needs to be made more clear and preferably by the Queen.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:47 PM
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I don't think their has been an article in the DM about royalty and non-royals were commentators have been anything but negative.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:52 PM
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I don't think their has been an article in the DM about royalty and non-royals were commentators have been anything but negative.
Y'know that makes total sense. Most of the tabloids report sensationalistic stories to get a rise of readers so it kind of makes sense that the reader's commentary would be sensationalistic also. Gotta say something outrageous to be quoted in these rags.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:04 PM
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The Verbier report in the DM was not (for a change) negative but the response was really surprising. The comments made by EIIR are correct - bad PR will take some time to reverse.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:12 PM
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I agree. I've read some of the posts on the DM site today as the paper is saying that they are going to Verbier. There is a great deal of anger and dislike for Catherine which is now also being directed at Prince William and even comments about him and Harry "milking" their mother's death. Appalling I know.

William and Harry both like to wind-up the press and lay false trails but this can easily backfire and the DM is not going to print an article saying that they printed incorrect information.

The Duke and Duchess need to rethink their strategy, take advice from the Queen and if the current workload is all Catherine is going to do, then that needs to be made more clear and preferably by the Queen.
I should just ignore DM comments.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:16 PM
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I don't think their has been an article in the DM about royalty and non-royals were commentators have been anything but negative.
You're quite right. The comments section of the DM is really not the best barometer of public opinion. Most of those people are a few sandwiches short of a picnic, they're often making comments that are potentially libellous, and often in really bad taste. The 'best rated' comments I find are more reflective.

I want Catherine to succeed; I think when she's been out in the public eye she's done a wonderful job, from quadrupling the amount of hockey equipment sold to helping EACH sell out their fund raising bracelets. But, they need to keep the balance right - giving her time to be in Angelsey, able to spend time with William when he's not on a 12 hour shift, but also putting in the hours. I mean, we're told we now won't see any engagement from Kate for at least a month. That's just too long a gap, particularly if there's a luxury holiday in the middle of it.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:21 PM
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The Verbier report in the DM was not (for a change) negative but the response was really surprising. The comments made by EIIR are correct - bad PR will take some time to reverse.
I bet you a majority of the public don't even know about it. I bet you most of them don't care. Some of them comments on DM are like they have committed a crime.
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:30 PM
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A little joke, may be now after 7 weeks to separation in the snow their are marking the hair! ha ha ha
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:09 PM
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It's nice that they get to spend some time together, but the couple have only gone through what all military families go through on a more regular basis and even worse when they are sent to the front line.
Completely agree. I know it's hard to be separated but some couples go much longer than 6 weeks.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:20 PM
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When did the palace announce they were going skiing? That was just speculation. What was offiially said is that William would have a little time off before he goes back to work. Not one word about what he was going to do. I suspect all the men get the same amount of time off before returning to duty. People are jumping the gun again.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:57 PM
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Agreed! Whenever an article has the word "speculation" in it and no pictures or word from the palace to back up their claims, it's probably not true. We have to be careful of our sources.

Also, any time military families and spouses, or any families or spouses for that matter, spend away from each other is rough regardless. Yes other people have had longer spans of times when their loved one was away with the military, but still it's not fun either way and it shouldn't be downplayed.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:54 AM
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I don't think the comments to the articles are awful...just peoples opinions. However, in these difficult financial times, I see how the average person COULD wonder about 2 luxury vacations in 7 weeks.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:18 AM
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I don't think the comments to the articles are awful...just peoples opinions. However, in these difficult financial times, I see how the average person COULD wonder about 2 luxury vacations in 7 weeks.
But they are not the average person. They have there own money as far as I am concerned they can do whatever they like.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:29 AM
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But they are not the average person. They have there own money as far as I am concerned they can do whatever they like.
While I agree with you, Bert, unfortunately if William and Kate head off abroad the taxpayer has to pay for the travel and accommodation costs of their bodyguards. I'm assuming they'd have at least 2 or 3 when together. The costs of that can be significant, so royals need to be careful with where and how often they travel abroad for personal reasons.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:30 AM
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But they are not the average person. They have there own money as far as I am concerned they can do whatever they like.
Problem is: it wont go down well with the public and like any other RF, the BRF is very image-concerned. True, Kate has done a few events in the past weeks but yet another holiday could get her back fast track to the lazy and workshy image (not that she has gotten rid of it already anyway).
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:31 AM
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But they are not the average person. They have there own money as far as I am concerned they can do whatever they like.
Yes, I understand your point of view. Do you understand mine and those of others?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:18 PM
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The press is scrambling to get the scoop on whether William and Kate went to Mustique or Verbier (both have been reported as fact), so it would be funny to find out that they've actually been holed up at Balmoral or Anglesey all weekend.

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When did the palace announce they were going skiing? That was just speculation. What was offiially said is that William would have a little time off before he goes back to work. Not one word about what he was going to do. I suspect all the men get the same amount of time off before returning to duty. People are jumping the gun again.
I was wondering that too. According to a spokesperson, William only had a few days off. That doesn't sound like much time to take a proper vacation.
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It seems to come from reports that Kate was seen in a ski shop.
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