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Old 12-31-2012, 07:18 PM
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But at the end of the day, the editors at the Express and many other papers decided not to publish the photos. Richard Palmer does not agree with the decision and thats fine.
But Mr Palmer should write a blog blasting his editors for the decision, and not try to turn it around on the Royals.
I had to laugh at this bit..."In the current climate, after the Leveson Inquiry into phone hacking and other alleged misdemeanours by sections of the British press, newspaper proprietors and editors are extremely reluctant to get into a high-profile dispute with the Royal Family."

As if the press from owners and editors on down had not treated public figures as objects to be sought and destroyed (because smears sell far better than positive press) by illegal means (misdemeanours or not). The press knows they have eaten their own young by stepping illegally over the privacy line - and now they have to pay the piper to recover the public's approval. It has so little to do with Royalty - this just makes me angry to see this kind of obfuscation.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:33 PM
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^^^^ Many members of the press have gone to jail in Britain over their criminal activities. The press was given many opportunities to shape up but they didn't and the general public no longer trust the British press.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:45 PM
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Sorry for the double post, but I just wanted to say that the 'Mini Cheddars' that Kate was buying are little crackers with a cheddar cheese flavouring. The crackers are small, about the size of a US quarter or 10p piece in the UK. They're very moreish, and it can be difficult to stop eating them when you start a packet.

Exactly what someone with nausea would be advised to eat. You can see them here:

Mini Cheddars. | Contains Scenes Of Mild Peril.
Oh...So they're the British version of Goldfish Crackers then? Because that description more than fits me and my addic...I mean...great love of (Yeah, that sounds better) Goldfish Crackers.

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Old 12-31-2012, 08:53 PM
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Oh...So they're the British version of Goldfish Crackers then? Because that description more than fits me and my addic...I mean...great love of (Yeah, that sounds better) Goldfish Crackers.

Or Cheeze-Its (Cheez-It® Baked Snack Crackers) and Goldfish cheddar can be found here: Pepperidge Farm® - Goldfish® Crackers in Cartons.

For whatever reason, they tend to make our cheddar junk food very radioactive ORANGE in the US. The color sticks to your fingers.

Anyway - good for the Duchess to have found her food that does not return.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:54 PM
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I had to laugh at this bit..."In the current climate, after the Leveson Inquiry into phone hacking and other alleged misdemeanours by sections of the British press, newspaper proprietors and editors are extremely reluctant to get into a high-profile dispute with the Royal Family."

As if the press from owners and editors on down had not treated public figures as objects to be sought and destroyed (because smears sell far better than positive press) by illegal means (misdemeanours or not). The press knows they have eaten their own young by stepping illegally over the privacy line - and now they have to pay the piper to recover the public's approval. It has so little to do with Royalty - this just makes me angry to see this kind of obfuscation.
Agreed! Very astute analysis; Britain is going thru a lot of press stuff that has very little to do with the BRF.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:57 AM
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Of course the palace didnt ban the pictures because there is no basis on what they would have been able to do so. The pictures are not illegal so its pointless to go for a ban. As a consequence, they do it through the backdoor, asking for privacy meaning its a nicely wrapped up warning. I am sure those newsoutlets in Britain who wouldn't comply wouldn't be forgotten by the palace when it comes to special occasions and special favours which would be given to those who did comply in the first place and not those who did not.

There will come the time when William wont be protected by Clarence House and the eternal respect his granny commands when it comes to handling the media and this nicely enforced deal-making will its boundaries.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:08 PM
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Of course the palace didnt ban the pictures because there is no basis on what they would have been able to do so. The pictures are not illegal so its pointless to go for a ban. As a consequence, they do it through the backdoor, asking for privacy meaning its a nicely wrapped up warning. I am sure those newsoutlets in Britain who wouldn't comply wouldn't be forgotten by the palace when it comes to special occasions and special favours which would be given to those who did comply in the first place and not those who did not.

There will come the time when William wont be protected by Clarence House and the eternal respect his granny commands when it comes to handling the media and this nicely enforced deal-making will its boundaries.
The problem with your reasoning is that the relationship between palace and press is a symbiotic one, and, at least for now, the press's does not have the best rep in the UK. Make no mistake, the press want to be on the good side of the palace, and the palace wants to be on the good side of the press.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:06 PM
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The problem with your reasoning is that the relationship between palace and press is a symbiotic one, and, at least for now, the press's does not have the best rep in the UK. Make no mistake, the press want to be on the good side of the palace, and the palace wants to be on the good side of the press.
This is exactly why we've been seeing William taking a stand on what he'll allow or not allow and what displeases him even to the point of getting the legal eagles on the attack after the invasion of privacy in France. The more he draws his line in the sand now, the more the press realizes that in the future, to have a good working relationship with the Cambridges, they're going to have to heed his wishes.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:16 PM
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True, the Cambridges won't take the media abuse and they are making sure the media knows that crossing the line just won't do. Now that they are establishing a family for themselves and their main residence is Kensington Palace, I really don't blame them.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:24 PM
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Of course the palace didnt ban the pictures because there is no basis on what they would have been able to do so. The pictures are not illegal so its pointless to go for a ban. As a consequence, they do it through the backdoor, asking for privacy meaning its a nicely wrapped up warning. I am sure those newsoutlets in Britain who wouldn't comply wouldn't be forgotten by the palace when it comes to special occasions and special favours which would be given to those who did comply in the first place and not those who did not.

There will come the time when William wont be protected by Clarence House and the eternal respect his granny commands when it comes to handling the media and this nicely enforced deal-making will its boundaries.
You're exactly right, the requests for privacy DO carry nicely wrapped warnings, or at least implicit reminders that the royal family is not without options, rights and power when it comes to dealing with the press. I also have very little doubt that this warning has been made explicit in private meetings between members of the press and people representing the Cambridges. The British press is also aware that it has shot itself in its collective foot and its position going forward - both in relation to the BRF and in general - is going to be weak compared to its glory days of the 80s, 90s and early 2000s.

The ball is in the media's court now. If they continue to keep themselves under control for the most part then they will have a civil and profitable relationship with the Cambridges and their team. If they can't do that then, IMO, the Cambridges are signalling their willingness to do things the hard way.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:44 PM
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All the old assumptions about the relationship between the royals and the press are now null and void. With the rampant law-breaking of the press over recent years, the media landscape in the UK is utterly changed. Even the BBC, whom we used to trust so much that it was nicknamed 'Auntie', has been fundamentally weakened in terms of public perception due to recent revelations.

The monarchy has probably not been in such a strong position in many decades. Over recent years in the UK we've seen almost all our public institutions revealed to be corrupt, totally untrustworthy, or involved in illegal activity on an almost endemic basis. Politicians, police, the press, churches, the list goes on and on. The only institution to have actually improved its position in the eyes of the public in that time? The royal family.

The royals have an opportunity to shape their relationship with the press that's unlikely to come around again too soon. It seems William is taking the bull by the horns.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:28 PM
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All the old assumptions about the relationship between the royals and the press are now null and void. With the rampant law-breaking of the press over recent years, the media landscape in the UK is utterly changed. Even the BBC, whom we used to trust so much that it was nicknamed 'Auntie', has been fundamentally weakened in terms of public perception due to recent revelations.

The monarchy has probably not been in such a strong position in many decades. Over recent years in the UK we've seen almost all our public institutions revealed to be corrupt, totally untrustworthy, or involved in illegal activity on an almost endemic basis. Politicians, police, the press, churches, the list goes on and on. The only institution to have actually improved its position in the eyes of the public in that time? The royal family.

The royals have an opportunity to shape their relationship with the press that's unlikely to come around again too soon. It seems William is taking the bull by the horns.
Great post; excellent summary of current situation
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:03 PM
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Prince William and Kate Middleton spend New Year's Eve apart as he takes part in RAF search for man in sea off Blackpool - Mirror Online
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I really have to admire folks that are on duty for holidays and special occasions. I really don't think either Wills or Kate would see it as the end of the world if they weren't together on NYE, we were sound asleep here when the gong struck midnight.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:24 AM
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I agree. I did think they had celebrated New Years Eve with each other but it's good to know William and the crew was out trying to save a life.

This will be an interesting and exciting year for them. It's hard for me to hide my excitement for them.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:20 PM
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Just what the Doctor ordered: ‘Tardis’ police box will land at Duchess of Cambridge's palace:
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Behind the wheel, Kate's Man Friday: Duke and Duchess of Cambridge get their first orderly (and he'll even organise William's wardrobe) | Mail Online

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have employed their first orderly as they face big changes in their lives.
They have seconded the young Fijian-born corporal from the Parachute Regiment.
His role involves chauffeuring, logistics and even organising Prince William’s wardrobe. The Daily Mail has been asked not to name him.
The orderly has been seen driving William and Kate on several official engagements. He drove the duchess when she visited her former preparatory school, St Andrew’s in Berkshire – where she showed off her hockey skills – in November, shortly before she was taken to hospital with acute morning sickness.
A royal aide said: ‘I have to say he is a lovely guy – like all Army, a superb can-do attitude and great sense of humour.’

The cost, which is not known, is being borne by the Ministry of Defence, and therefore the taxpayer.


I think its interesting that he is still being paid by the MoD especially after St James' have continually said that Wills and Kate (and Harry) would have their office costs and staff costs met by the Prince of Wales through the Duchy of Cornwall.
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Behind the wheel, Kate's Man Friday: Duke and Duchess of Cambridge get their first orderly (and he'll even organise William's wardrobe) | Mail Online

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have employed their first orderly as they face big changes in their lives.
They have seconded the young Fijian-born corporal from the Parachute Regiment.
His role involves chauffeuring, logistics and even organising Prince William’s wardrobe. The Daily Mail has been asked not to name him.
The orderly has been seen driving William and Kate on several official engagements. He drove the duchess when she visited her former preparatory
school, St Andrew’s in Berkshire – where she showed off her hockey skills – in November, shortly before she was taken to hospital with acute morning sickness.

A royal aide said: ‘I have to say he is a lovely guy – like all Army, a superb
can-do attitude and great sense of humour.



The cost, which is not known, is being borne by the Ministry of Defence, and therefore the taxpayer.


I think its interesting that he is still being paid by the MoD especially after St James' have continually said that Wills and Kate (and Harry) would have their office costs and staff costs met by the Prince of Wales through the Duchy of Cornwall.
Military personnel seconded to work for the royals are always paid by the MoD since they are technically MoD employees. Various royals have equerries and orderlies from the military typically it's a 2 year secondment as it's seen as something to help with their career path.

William and Harry's ( and Kate's ) principal private secretary Jamie Lowther Pinkerton had been an equerry for the Queen Mum when he was a serving officer.
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Robert Jobson ‏@theroyaleditor William & Kate have employed their first "orderly" as they face big changes. He is a Fijian-born corporal from the Parachute Regiment.

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William & Kate's Orderly's role involves chauffeuring, logistics & organising Prince William’s wardrobe.

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Prince William's appointment of an Fijian Para "Orderly" suggests Prince will be doing more royal duties in future.
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