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Old 06-13-2005, 04:48 PM
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Yes, thank you to you Florawindsor and your friend for the pictures. I just love the old black and white portraits! :)
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Thank you for the pictures, Florawindsor. :)
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THE Earl of Snowdon, 75, once married to the late Princess Margaret, has suffered a stroke. He is having tests at the Chelsea and Westminster hospital, London, but said: "I am all right."

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Old 06-22-2005, 03:52 PM
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Royals cost Britain £36m a year Wednesday, 22 June 2005



The royal family, often criticised for excessive spending, costs each taxpayer just 61 pence a year, about the same as a loaf of bread, Buckingham Palace said on Wednesday.

The Royal Public Finances annual report, which details public spending on the monarchy's property and travel, said the Queen's household cost the taxpayer 36.7 million pounds in 2004-5, a 100,000 pound saving from the previous year.

"We believe this represents a value-for-money monarchy," said Alan Reid, the "Keeper of the Privy Purse" who looks after the queen's finances.

"We're not looking to provide the cheapest monarchy. We're looking at one of good value and good quality," he added.

Reid said the total cost of the monarchy was less than in 2001 when the royal family first published details of its finances in response to public demands that it become more open and accountable.

Greatest criticism of royal family spending is usually reserved for high transport costs.

This year's report showed that chartering a flight for heir-to-the throne Prince Charles's trip to Sri Lanka, Australia and Fiji had cost the taxpayer over 292,000 pounds.

The monarchy has made efforts to curb its outgoings, most notably decommissioning the royal yacht Britannia in 1997, and the report said the cost to the taxpayer was 60 percent lower than in 1991-2 when it amounted to 87.3 million pounds.

"The further reduction in the amount of Head of State expenditure reflects the continuous attention the Royal Household pays to obtaining the best value for money in all areas of expenditure," Reid said.

The report said the largest area of public funding was the 20 million pound Property Grant-in-Aid, which meets the costs of maintenance, utilities, telephones and related services of the royal palaces.

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Royals cost Britain £37m a year

'Good value and good quality', said the Keeper of the Privy Purse

The Royal Family cost Britons £36.7m last year, equivalent to 61p per taxpayer, figures show.

Buckingham Palace said the figure, which excludes security costs, was at its lowest since 2001 and had fallen 2.3% in real terms since 2003-4.

Alan Reid, Keeper of the Privy Purse, said the royals gave "value for money".

The travel bill rose from £4.7m to £5m after Prince Andrew's overseas trips for UK Trade & Investment were transferred to the Queen's accounts.

Among the journeys, paid for by grants-in-aid, highlighted in the accounts were:
  • A trip by Prince Charles to Sri Lanka, Australia and Fiji by chartered plane that cost £300,000
  • A chartered flight taken by the Duke of York to the Far East to promote UK interests costing just under £125,000
  • A royal train journey made by the Prince of Wales from Aberdeen to Plymouth, Devon, that cost almost £45,000

The report showed significant differences in travel costs between family members, though, with a flight taken by the Duke of Edinburgh to Toronto costing just £12,800.

"It's almost a generational thing," said BBC royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell.

"The Duke of Edinburgh travelling on scheduled flights with very few officials; the Duke of York, though, insisting on a much bigger party to accompany him; the Prince of Wales really not using scheduled flights at all... using chartered helicopters, the royal helicopter, on occasions for very short flights.

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"They would, I think, like to get some of these costs down."

Clarence House has defended Prince Charles' use of a chartered plane to conduct official visits.

A spokesman said the Prince of Wales had visited four countries in twelve days.

He had gone to "Sri Lanka to visit the scene of the tsunami disaster as the President of British Red Cross, and then Australia, New Zealand and Fiji, which were long-standing invitations from the respective national governments and at the request of the British government".

"To allow His Royal Highness to fulfil the busy programme which had been developed and to meet the inevitable security requirements, using scheduled services was not possible although, of course, that option was considered carefully," said the spokesman.

Labour MP Ian Davidson said the expense of the royal train - used 19 times last year - could not be justified and called for it to be scrapped.

We're not looking to provide the cheapest monarchy


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Mr Davidson, a member of the public accounts committee in the last parliament, told BBC News: "We ought to have more of the royals using normal trains and perhaps then they would put pressure on the powers that be to make sure that the train service was improved for everyone."

The Queen received a rebate of over £1m after appealing against the business rate paid on Buckingham Palace, the accounts also showed.

Westminster City Council had doubled the palace's rateable value in 2000.

The palace also halved its insurance bill by finding better deals on employers' liability and other policies. Mr Reid said: "We believe this represents a value-for-money monarchy. "We're not looking to provide the cheapest monarchy. We're looking at one of good value and good quality."

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SUN NEWSPAPER

Royals cost us £36million
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005280729,00.html

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Old 06-22-2005, 11:48 PM
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Wed Jun 22, 3:28 PM ET



LONDON - British taxpayers paid the equivalent of $1.12 each last year to support Queen Elizabeth II and the royal family, a "good value" as far as monarchies go, Buckingham Palace said Wednesday.

The palace, which has been under political pressure to control costs in recent years, said in its annual summary that the senior royals' expenses totaled the equivalent of $67.1 million in the fiscal year ending March 31.




That is down 0.3 percent from the previous year. Considering inflation, spending was down 2.3 percent, the palace said.

"We believe this represents a value-for-money monarchy. We're not looking to provide the cheapest monarchy. We're looking at one of good value and good quality," said Alan Reid, keeper of the privy purse, the official responsible for royal finances.

Significant savings had been made on insurance and through a property tax rebate on Buckingham Palace, Reid said. The royals were refunded the equivalent of more than $1.83 million from a local council for taxes paid on the central London property after successfully winning an appeal against a large tax increase in 2000.

The royal family spent more money in the past year on employing staff, hosting receptions for visiting heads of state, ceremonial occasions and overseas tours.

The queen visited France and Germany and hosted visits from the presidents of Poland, France and South Korea.

Buckingham Palace spent $4 million throughout the year on catering and hospitality, $914,600 of which went to hosting six garden parties attended by about 39,000 people.

Royal travel expenses amounted to $9.15 million compared to $7.05 million in the 2003-2004 financial year.

Prince Charles' chartered plane trip to Sri Lanka, Australia and Fiji in February cost nearly $548,760, while $1.3 million was spent on the royal train, on which the queen and her family took 19 journeys.

Ian Davidson, a governing Labour Party lawmaker from Scotland, said spending on the royal train, made up of nine coaches including sleeping and office quarters, was a "gross extravagance."

"It costs far, far more to travel by royal train than by any other method. There is no justification as far as I can see for the extravagance of the royal train," Davidson told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

The Sunday Times Rich List of 2004 estimated the Queen's worth at $457 million. The estimate only covers the queen's residences at Balmoral and Sandringham which are actually held in her name, her stamp collection, private jewelry collection and a portfolio of private investments. It does not include castles, palaces, art collections or the crown jewels which are held by her in trust to be passed on to successors.

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House of Windsor, the Wal-Mart of Royal Families Friday, 24 June 2005 So now we know. The British royal family may be anachronistic, starchy and, in its pleasantly decorative way, somewhat surplus to requirement, but at least it is cheap.

According to the latest figures out of Buckingham Palace, the queen and her courtiers cost British taxpayers little more than the price of a medium-budget Hollywood movie in the last fiscal year: 36.7 million pounds to be precise, or about $67 million.

In terms of cost per subject, the House of Windsor represents a setback of 61 pence — not much more than a buck — per man, woman and child of the realm.

Amortized over the commonwealth, the whole shebang works out cheaper still. Imagine: For the price of the occasional grande decaf latte at Starbucks, you could build global dynasties if only you knew how to be parsimonious enough.

Alan Reid, the Keeper of the Privy Purse (aka the royal bean-counter in chief), refers with satisfaction to what he calls the "value-for-money monarchy" — a curious phrase, to be sure, coming from an institution whose reason for being is to dazzle its subjects with the allure of ermine, gold and 10 centuries' worth of fine jewelry.

Value for money was not exactly what Henry VIII had in mind when he took his entire court on a lavish three-week field trip across the Channel in 1520 and vied with the king of France for the most nauseatingly ostentatious display of wealth and finery. The so-called Field of the Cloth of Gold featured gilded fountains spouting claret and spiced wine, tents made of silk and woven with pearls, masked balls, banquets and jousting tournaments. And for what? The diplomatic value of the trip is deemed by most modern historians to have been virtually zero.

Value for money wasn't one of George IV's hallmarks either. When he wasn't gambling or drinking away the exchequer, the playboy son of mad King George III was enacting budget-busting schemes to rebuild central London. At his coronation in 1820, George's costume was so extravagant and heavy that he almost passed out and had to be revived with smelling salts. One of his critics remarked with disgust that he looked "more like an elephant than a man."

If times have changed, it is because the monarchy is locked in a struggle to justify its existence. Feudalism, after all, hasn't been popular for several centuries, and looting and pillaging on behalf of the crown — one of Henry VIII's favorite pastimes — are deemed inconsistent with modern standards of leadership. In the 21st century, royals must behave or risk extinction.

Since the collapse of the British empire, the Windsors have wrestled mightily to live up to a paradoxical expectation: to remain aristocratic and special while somehow adhering, not always successfully, to ordinary middle-class notions of decency and restraint.

The eminent historian David Cannadine has called this (referring to one of the queen's numerous castles and palaces) the "Balmorality play" of the House of Windsor, a somewhat joyless exercise in pomp and straitened circumstance.

Here, though, is a dirty little secret about the British royals: They have been stingy for far longer than you might think. George IV, the last of the great spenders, suffered endless battles with Parliament because of his profligacy, leading to the emasculation of his plans for Regent's Street and Trafalgar Square.

William IV described his own coronation as "a pointless piece of flummery" and spent so little on it that it became known as the "Half-Crownation."

When Elizabeth II acceded to the throne about 50 years ago, she didn't want to pay for brand-new gilded coaches at her coronation, so she rented them from a film company.

But don't worry: The Windsors are still capable of the occasional splurge. Prince Charles spent more than $100,000 to charter a plane for Ronald Reagan's funeral last summer. The queen once packed 147 bags for a four-day trip to Paris.

As Reid, the privy purse keeper, put it: "We're not looking to provide the cheapest monarchy. We're looking at one of good value and good quality."

Elizabeth and Charles, Prince Philip and Camilla — now there's quality you can take to the bank.

By Andrew Gumbel, Andrew Gumbel is the Los Angeles correspondent for the Independent of London.
June 24, 2005
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Any pictures of the Duchess of Gloucester and the Michaels of Kent at the Fleet Review at Spithead on 28/6/05? I have seen pictures of the other Royals who attended but not any of these members of the family.
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Very interesting picture corazon. (That must have taken forever...)
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The July issue of Insight is out http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1727.asp

In the mailbox is does confirm that the little girl on the balcony was Ella Mountbatten.

Also nice shout-out to Canada (today we turn 138 ) on the front page http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp
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