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View Poll Results: Who is your favourite of King Henry VIII's six wives?
Catherine of Aragon 100 33.33%
Anne Boleyn 101 33.67%
Jane Seymour 34 11.33%
Anne of Cleves 30 10.00%
Katherine Howard 11 3.67%
Catherine Parr 24 8.00%
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:51 PM
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Anne of Cloves and Katherine Parr.....they understood the old rooster and were intelligent enough to placate and come out relatively well.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:49 AM
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Catherine Of Aragon

I think it is interesting how she is the favorite. In the time of the divorce, she was nagging at the king about how she was still his only true wife and things of that nature. It made the king very ill tempered, and thats what there is controversy over her illness that killed her- some think she was poisned under the kings orders. ( What are your opinions on this subject? Do you think she died of natural causes or poisoned?)

On the other hand, she was a great queen, & was the best to suite the position politically, but King Henry VIII had other ideas.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:53 AM
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Regarding Anne Boylen death

Anne Boylen was said to have been cheating on the King (which was true) but with her brother as well. (this was speculated because she had her second miscarriage, and the body of the child was examined and it was determined that is was deformed) A blessing in disguise.

But, Anne claimed she did not sleep with her brother, but he was later executed as well as her. (on the grounds of cheating)

My question is for you is do you think she slept her brother? That was common back then to keep royal blood, but it is hard for me to believe that Anne did so, especially being the Queen. Please sure your opinion!
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:02 AM
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"Anne of Cleves

You have to love one that survived; escaped her bullying father and then created a life for herself which she controlled.

Great role model.'


You're right, she barley survived but thats because the king hated her. She barley created a life for herself in England and had a very stressful reign as Queen. The King rarley laid with her as she was not a good partner, and this frustrated the king. Before you know it, she was gone, but since the arrangement was made to keep England in touch with Rome he spared her and gave her a place in the hills to live out her life and die peacefully.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:34 AM
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Anne Boylen was said to have been cheating on the King (which was true) but with her brother as well. (this was speculated because she had her second miscarriage, and the body of the child was examined and it was determined that is was deformed) A blessing in disguise.

But, Anne claimed she did not sleep with her brother, but he was later executed as well as her. (on the grounds of cheating)

My question is for you is do you think she slept her brother? That was common back then to keep royal blood, but it is hard for me to believe that Anne did so, especially being the Queen. Please sure your opinion!
Hi KingMaxwellVIII, welcome to the forum. May I ask why you say it was true that Anne Boleyn cheated on the King? I'm not arguing the point because obviously no one alive knows, but who do you think was her lover?

I don't think Anne Boleyn slept with her brother. The evidence against them was pretty scarce. I think the Elizabeth Browne, the Countess of Worcester, made the initial allegation based on the fact that George and Boleyn spent a long time alone. I think Cromwell and Henry accused Anne of incest in order to ensure people completely turned against her. Apparently George's case wasn't helped when he read a letter alleging the king was impotent during the trial. There was probably no turning back for him at that point.
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:55 PM
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The wife I've always felt most sympathy for is Catherine of Aragon, who endured endless trials and tribulations from the death of Arthur until her own demise. In many ways, her life story plots Henry's descent from a young effervescent renaissance King into a tyrannical monster.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:21 PM
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Ann of Cleaves is my favorite. She got out of the marriage alive.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:51 AM
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Catherine Parr was said (on a TV special) to have taken care of old doddering Henry, so she was a kind person. It even showed on the TV program how she tried to keep food away from her (rich food which was too fat) to preserve his health, what was left of it.
But Henry sneaked food anyway. Maybe that was all TV fiction. But perhaps she really cared about him as a person.
Catherine of Aragon may have cared about him as a person, too, although their marriage was political.
The rest of them were just after power, glory, riches or were victims out and out.
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Old 10-10-2014, 01:55 PM
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Every time the wives come up I always imagine what they would be like in our times. Like how would plain Jane, mousy, docile Jane Seymour be in the year 2016? I always imagine her as a nurse for children or a teacher, a woman who is quiet and who others who push around and dictate to until one day they push her to hard and she tells them off.
Anne Boleyn could be anything from a reporter to Anna Wintour.
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Old 01-04-2016, 04:01 AM
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My favourite is Katherine Parr. She was very smart when dealing with Henry in his blackest moods and escaped alive to tell the tale. Katherine led a rather unhappy life overall and certainly, her last husband didn't deserve her. However, she was a loving stepmother to Henry's children and Elizabeth and Edward in particular were fond of her.
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My favourite is Katherine Parr. She was very smart when dealing with Henry in his blackest moods and escaped alive to tell the tale. Katherine led a rather unhappy life overall and certainly, her last husband didn't deserve her. However, she was a loving stepmother to Henry's children and Elizabeth and Edward in particular were fond of her.
Honestly though she may have lacked the book smarts of Catherine, Anne of Cleves played the game the best. She granted the annulment when asked, and was 'the king's beloved sister'. She was welcome at court and had precedence over any woman but the queen. She was said to have been dominated by her mother and brother as a child, and she got her own freedom and life through annulment. She was close to Elizabeth and Edward. Unfortunately due to Mary's strong catholic beliefs, though she was present at Mary's coronation, she disappeared from court. there was suspicion she had supported a rebellion and had her brother help Elizabeth. Mary did allow her in her last years to live at Catherine Parr's old home, and she left Elizabeth in her will.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:13 PM
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^ What do you think Henry's reaction would have been if Anne of Cleves had fallen in love and wished to remarry?
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:28 AM
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I think he would have wished her all the best.
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Every time the wives come up I always imagine what they would be like in our times. Like how would plain Jane, mousy, docile Jane Seymour be in the year 2016? I always imagine her as a nurse for children or a teacher, a woman who is quiet and who others who push around and dictate to until one day they push her to hard and she tells them off.
Such women often came out on top back then, because they didn't irritate the powerful men they were attached to.

(Madame Maintenon was the same type, the governess who ended up married to Louis XIV).
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:26 AM
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Jane might have been a librarian in a quiet country town. I can imagine Anne Boleyn being a successful actress, the sort who irritate directors. She had a bit of the diva about her!
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:42 PM
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Jane might have been a librarian in a quiet country town. I can imagine Anne Boleyn being a successful actress, the sort who irritate directors. She had a bit of the diva about her!
Very interesting, Curryong. I agree that Anne Boleyn was a diva, but I see her as a politician. She was interested in shaping policy and was quite political and intelligent. I can see Katherine Parr as minister/author. I agree about Jane having the demeanor of a librarian but we're not sure that she was much of a reader. I can also see her as an elementary school teacher. I think Anne of Cleves would have been a successful business woman.

It don't anyone knows Katherine Howard's aptitude or interests. But today, people would understand that she had been sexually assaulted by Mannox and Dereham.
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:51 AM
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Don`t really have a favorite but if i have to vote i guess Catherine of Aragon
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:28 AM
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I think he would have wished her all the best.
Certainly not. He would not have wished her to remarry, she was stuck with a situation where she had a comfortable life, but at least til Henry died, she would have not been allowed to remarry.
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