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Old 01-07-2011, 07:21 AM
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The matter was actually dealt with in the Regency Act of 1830 - any child of Adelaide's and William's born after Victoria became Queen would succeed Victoria.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:37 AM
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Just as well such a child remained notional - would have been waiting a long time to succeed!
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:14 AM
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I think Victoria would have given up the throne for her cousin once the child reached majority. She was a good, dutiful queen but probably she would have preferred to be just Princess Albert. But that's speculation though I seem to remember having read that that was her position in one of her biographies.
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My understanding is that she would have abdicated immediately and been regent for 18 years rather than actually be the Queen for 18 years and then abdicate.
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:38 AM
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I doubt this considering Victoria's character. She was herself just 18 and becoming queen offered her the possibility to escape the tough rule her own mother had on her. In case of an abdication it's not sure that she would have become the regent but queen Marie Adelaide, the baby's mother. So I think she would have prefered to see the baby grow up and be raised under her own regency to have a chance to do her duty to the country, not to formal family law.
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She would have been under extreme pressure from her family, the government and especially the church to do the 'right thing' and she knew what that was - that any baby born within 9 months of the death of William IV was the true monarch.
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You're right but don't forget how fast she installed herself as a power to be headed, even though she was so young. Lord Melbourne for example, her first Prime Minister, is said to actually have fallen for her and they would have worked together for at least half a year. Of course this is pure speculation but I tend to think that Victoria would have preferred to raise the baby herself the way she thought was right and she would have been able to fight back against all others who, in her mind, surely were trying to grab the opportunity while she herself knew that she was only deciding for the best.
But we could endlessly discuss her - it didn't happen, so it doesn't make too much sense.
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Victoria and the British Throne

Why did Victoria succeed to the British throne if both Ernest Augustus and Adolphus each had a son born in the same year as Victoria?
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:01 AM
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Why did Victoria succeed to the British throne if both Ernest Augustus and Adolphus each had a son born in the same year as Victoria?

Victoria was the child of the 4th son of George III while Ernest Augustus was the 5th son and Adolphus was the 7th. So even though Victoria's father had died she took her place from her father and his relationship to the King. After his death she moved into his place, which was 4th. She was always placed before her father's younger brothers and their respective descendents.

It's like today where Andrew's daughters come before Edward's son. Andrew is the older brother and even if Andrew died tomorrow his daughters would be closer to the throne then young James.

In time William's children, regardless of gender will all come before Harry's even if William has daughters and Harry has sons.

The line of succession follows strict rules of males before females but each male line has to be exhausted before it passes to the next male e.g.

The current line of succession is:

Charles - William - Harry
Andrew - Beatrice - Eugenie
Edward - James - Louise
Anne - Peter - Savannah* - Zara

However if Charles dies before the Queen it is Charles' line that succeeds not the Queen's second son, but her eldest son's children.

* as yet not baptised or officially annouced as far as I am aware.
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Why did Victoria succeed to the British throne...?
Here's the legal reasoning. The principles determining Succession are found in two places:

• A law enacted by the Parliament, namely the Act of Settlement of 1701, determined that the Crown would pass to the Electress Sophia of Hanover, granddaughter of James I, and thereafter to "the heirs of her body, being Protestants".

• "the heirs of her body" is interpreted under English Common Law which applies the principle of male-preference primogeniture. Thus a younger brother will inherit the Crown before his older sister, but in the absence of a living brother the daughter will inherit.

At the moment of death of William IV in 1837 Victoria was the heir of the body of the Electress Sophia as defined by the Act of Settlement and Common Law. Her succession to the Crown was therefore automatic and immediate.
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How come Queen Victoria became queen if Ernest Augustus and Adolphus each had a son born later in the same year?
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How come Queen Victoria became queen if Ernest Augustus and Adolphus each had a son born later in the same year?

Because they were both younger than Victoria's father, the Duke of Kent.
His children take precedence.

Now, if he had had a son born after Victoria, the son would have inherited instead.
But the Duke died when she was a baby, so that didn't happen.
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How come Queen Victoria became queen if Ernest Augustus and Adolphus each had a son born later in the same year?
I believe Iluvbertie and Warren answered this same question which you previously posted.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:49 PM
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I believe Iluvbertie and Warren answered this same question which you previously posted.

To be fair to 944 they did start a new thread - which is where I answered it - and also posted it here which is where Warren answered it.
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To be fair to 944 they did start a new thread - which is where I answered it - and also posted it here which is where Warren answered it.
So the questions were moved here, I see. Sorry, 944
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Queen Victoria & Prince Albert Tribute

Hello. I recently made a video, a tribute to the life of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert. You can find it here.

Comments and ratings are welcomed on the video's page!

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BBC News - Queen Victoria and Abdul: Diaries reveal secrets
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Welcome Liam! I really enjoyed The Young Victoria movie too.
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Same, I think it's brill :)
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I totally love that movie
Has anyone noticed that princess Beatrice of York is actually in the movie,but would it be weird for her a descendent of queen Victoria to portray her.
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