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Old 09-03-2015, 02:56 AM
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I do believe Leopold make the right decision.
Maybe i say maybe the things is different is King Pavlos don't died so early.
But now yes monarchy is very far away for us anymore.
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:13 PM
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Here is a photo of her wedding dress. White silk net embroidered in silver strip with a spotted ground and borders.
Princess Charlotte's wedding dress, 1816. White silk net embroidered... Nachrichtenfoto | Getty Images

And an engraving of her wedding day: The wedding of Princess Charlotte Augusta of Britain , the daughter... Nachrichtenfoto | Getty Images
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It's a lovely dress, though it's sad that white silk changes its colour over time. Charlotte was married in the evening and the silver threads must have sparkled in the candlelight. Magical! Thanks for posting this.

Leopold always said that Victoria reminded him of Charlotte. This can't have been so in physique, however. It's clear that Charlotte was certainly taller than the tiny Victoria, and was a healthy, strapping sort of girl!
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:05 AM
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Unfortunately her physique did not help her to survive childbirth, so being taller didn't necessarily mean that she had the stronger constitution.

Charlotte's wedding gown is still in the full Empire fashion, with that high waist line and little puffy sleeves. The sparkle of the silver threads is amazing in the pic, even with the coloured material.
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Yes, it was said that if a girl was born in Western Europe around 1790 she could grow to adulthood without experiencing much change in fashion at all.

That stupid doctor of Charlotte's restricted her diet in late pregnancy and kept bleeding her before she even went into labour. Just appalling!
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:59 PM
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It's a lovely dress, though it's sad that white silk changes its colour over time. Charlotte was married in the evening and the silver stripes must have sparkled in the candlelight. Magical! Thanks for posting this.



Leopold always said that Victoria reminded him of Charlotte. This can't have been so in physique, however. It's clear that Charlotte was certainly taller than the tiny Victoria, and was a healthy, strapping sort of girl!

For once I have to disagree, because of the discolouring of the silk, we can see that stunning needlework in all it's glory. As a Needleworker, I'll admit to some bias there, but I do think of all that beautiful work done on Wedding Gowns and it's never really seen due to the white on white. At least on Charlotte's we can see and admire *cough*droolover*cough* the skill of those who did that gorgeous work. :)

As you said though...That dress, in candlelight...Charlotte must have just looked so magical that night. :)


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Old 09-04-2015, 03:07 PM
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I agreefor the dress and the work done.
Napoleon sais that Prince Leopld of SCG was the most handsome Prince he met !
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Yes, it was said that Charlotte was very struck by Leopold's good looks when she first met the 23 year old. I think the Saxe Coburgs had a reputation for good looks. Queen Victoria's mother looks pretty in her portraits, though apparently she was a trifle overweight in real life.

Victoria thought Albert was divine when she met him again in 1839. It's a shame that we have no photos of these young men. By the time photography arrived Leopold was ageing and Albert was looking older than his age due to stress and balding!
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Princess Charlotte wrote to the Prime Minister asking him to represent her formally with her father and request him to offer her hand in marriage to Prince Leopold of Saxe-Coburg. If he did not agree, she warned, she would remain a spinster and refuse all other suitors.
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Very touched to read about this Princess who seems to have been loved by all.... she could have been my Queen after all !
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Very touched to read about this Princess who seems to have been loved by all.... she could have been my Queen after all !
No, you would have had a different king all together.

When Charlotte married Leopold, he was the younger son of a Duke. He had no claims to any throne, he was a military man. If Charlotte had lived, she would have been Queen Charlotte, and he would have remained in the UK as Prince consort. Instead she died, and the position of prince regent was held by his nephew, Albert.

When they were trying to choose a king for Belgium, Leopold's name would never have been proposed. The future (he wouldn't have been till his father in law died in 1837) prince consort of Great Britain would not have been considered a choice. Either one of the French princes who were considered, or another non-French choice would have taken Belgium's throne.

Perhaps one of his older brothers would have been chosen, Albert's father or the second brother Ferdinand (if they wanted to avoid a French king).
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No, you would have had a different king all together.

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When they were trying to choose a king for Belgium, Leopold's name would never have been proposed. The future (he wouldn't have been till his father in law died in 1837)...
Nitpick: should be "he wouldn't have been till his father-in-law died in 1830"

A pretty reasonable analysis of what would have probably transpired had Charlotte not expired when she did.
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If Princess Charlotte had married William of Orange, was there not an agreement that she, Charlotte, would be required to reside for a certain length of time each year in The Netherlands?
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If Princess Charlotte had married William of Orange, was there not an agreement that she, Charlotte, would be required to reside for a certain length of time each year in The Netherlands?

No. Part of the negotiations of the marriage contract was that Princess Charlotte insisted that she wouldn't be required to leave Britain.
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Charlotte simply did not want to marry William of Orange. I think she would have known very well that the stipulation that she remain permanently in Britain would have been unacceptable to the Dutch. She reacted to her grandmother and father trying to persuade her to marry this man and any stipulations were a delaying tactic on her part.
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I seem to have read somewhere (I can't remember where but it was some history of Regency England) that one reason Charlotte made difficulties and broke off the engagement was that she had been infatuated with some other prince..
As I recall, Wiliam tried to stipulate that she should live part of the time in the Netherlands which wasn't an unreasonable request surely, until she actually became queen of England..
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If Princess Charlotte had married William and resided part of the year in The Netherlands until she became the Queen of Great Britain, what does William do? Does he move to England?
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As far as I recall he was a younger son, so it would be expected I imagine that he would move to England....
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Very touched to read about this Princess who seems to have been loved by all.... she could have been my Queen after all !
Im not sure she was really loved by all, it was more that the RF were so unpopular, with the public and even the aristocracy, with their extravagance, their lack of legitimate heirs and general awfulness, that Charlotte, who was young and untainted by scandal was greeted iwht some relief. Even if they had to put up with the Regent as King for a few years, she would be Queen and she was reasonably attractive and not known to be misbehaving in any way. So there was terrible disappointement when she died In childbirth...
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As far as I recall he was a younger son, so it would be expected I imagine that he would move to England....
William was heir to his father, a sovereign prince and later King William I of the Netherlands. William of Orange became heir apparent to the throne of the Netherlands in 1815 and later ruled in his turn as King William II.
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