The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #21  
Old 01-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Crawley, United Kingdom
Posts: 3
With Victoria's journals, they are currently a third of their original length. Here's a quote from Dennison, used from a copied extract made during Victoria's life: "I undressed as quickly as possible and then Singer, Peneyvre, Rebecca and Dehler set of for Woolwich. Skerrett and Margaret return to Osborne" Beatrice has written: "Undressed as quickly as possible, the maids having to leave for Woolwich." The close relationship Victoria had with her maids was deleted by Beatrice for posterity.

Furthermore, her destruction was preservation of Victoria's reputation. The queen wrote with vigour, force and confidence, and parts of her journal would have shocked the public and hurt her living relatives, especially material relating to the Kaiser, who was an unreliable friend of England even during the Edwardian period.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-06-2008, 07:45 PM
Commoner
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Mount Juliet, United States
Posts: 15
In his biography of Princess Beatrice, Matthew Dennison makes reference to a portrait of Beatrice painted by Sohn. The portrait was painted a couple of years before Beatrice's marriage, and was apparently very unflattering. Dennison describes Beatrice as looking pudgy and quite unhappy in it, evidence of her increasing dissatisfaction of being designated as her mother's maiden caretaker.

Does anyone know where I can find a picture of this portait? Dennison did not include it in the biography. I'd like to see it and have been unable to locate it online.

Dennison refers to a Sohn portrait of Helena of Waldeck-Pyrmont (Leopold's wife) as being lovely; I have seen this painting and don't quite agree with his opinion. While not hideous, Helena's cheeks are overly rosy (it almost looks like acne) and she has a very strange expression on her face.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-23-2008, 11:59 AM
PssMarie-Elisabeth's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Fort Pierce, United States
Posts: 123
Princess Beatrice in her bridal gown, 1885
http://i33.tinypic.com/f1z8na.jpg

* Many thanks to my friend, Lynn for coloring it * although her version does not show a diamond necklace :P
__________________
" This coupe is too small! Go back and get the family carriage"
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-06-2008, 05:27 PM
colynsmomma's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Jacksonville, United States
Posts: 38
I just got done with the Matthew Dennison book and while it was good, I fond that it was more about QV then about Beatrice. Many of the feeling and accounts of what happened came from QV's journals. Another thing was that he only wrote about 3 or 4 chapters about the Battenburgs when married. They were married for 10 years. This book also put QV as a very selfish woman. And I kinda have to agree with him on this one.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-22-2014, 10:40 PM
CyrilVladisla's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Conneaut, United States
Posts: 5,276
Queen Victoria had a dark room installed at her home on the Isle of Wight as photography was a hobby of Princess Beatrice's.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-10-2017, 09:03 PM
CyrilVladisla's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Conneaut, United States
Posts: 5,276
Princess Beatrice laid a wreath on the Cenotaph on the fourteenth anniversary of the first great Battle of Ypres.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-10-2017, 09:19 PM
Iluvbertie's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bathurst, Australia
Posts: 12,416
I would imagine she did this because that is when and where her youngest son was killed - Ypres Salient in 1914 (27th October).

I love the fact that his grave is no different to any other known British or Commonwealth soldier from the wars - same headstone, same design on it - unit, name, rank, age, cross and the optional wording from the family (the last at the bottom had to be paid for by the family at so much per letter - my family didn't put one on my great-grandfather's grave and the discussion two years ago was that we would never agree - and now every living descendant has to agree for it to be added).

This is an image at the bottom of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince..._of_Battenberg and if you click on the image you can see what I mean in more detail. All Commonwealth War Graves look like this, except for those at Gallipoli (as far as I am aware) as the soil there couldn't hold them upright so they lie down. There may be some other places where they lie them down but still with the same formula. The British have their unit badges while the Aussies have the rising sun, the Kiwis the fern, the Canadians the maple leaf, the South Africans a springbok. The exception are those who have earned the Victoria Cross as that is used to replace the unit badge. Each soldier also had the option on no religious emblem or a Jewish or Muslim one if they so desire. It was on one of the many forms they filled in either on enlistment or on embarkation. If it is the grave of an unknown soldier it will have the cross and 'Known Unto God' at the bottom - no family needed to pay for that one of course.

Sorry gone OT but I do hope people won't mind.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-23-2018, 10:17 PM
CyrilVladisla's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Conneaut, United States
Posts: 5,276
On July 22, 1885 Prince Henry was granted the style Royal Highness to give him equal rank with his wife. Why did this style not take effect in the German Empire where Henry was still considered a Serene Highness?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-24-2018, 03:05 PM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: St Thomas, U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
Posts: 1,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla View Post
On July 22, 1885 Prince Henry was granted the style Royal Highness to give him equal rank with his wife. Why did this style not take effect in the German Empire where Henry was still considered a Serene Highness?
Apparently, it was usual that styles granted by foreign monarchs were not effective in Germany. The HRH granted by King Leopold I of Belgium to German members of his family was also unrecognized there.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-28-2018, 10:36 PM
CyrilVladisla's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Conneaut, United States
Posts: 5,276
Prince Henry had his photograph taken at the Balmoral Bazaar in 1894.
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-col...131023034.html
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-26-2019, 09:53 AM
JessRulz's Avatar
Administrator
Blog Editor
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 8,336
Today is the 75th anniversary of Princess Beatrice's death, in October 1944. Below is a biography piece published in Royalty Monthly back in 1999 about her relationship with her mother.

From Warren's Collection...


"Victoria's youngest was mainstay of the royals"
Author: Monica Heary
Source: The Daily Telegraph
Published: April 29, 1995




"Beatrice: A life of sacrifice as mother's little helper"
Author: Brenda Ralph Lewis
Source: Royalty Monthly
Published: January 1999

__________________
**TRF Rules and FAQ**
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 11-02-2019, 06:49 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Northamptonshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 159
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iluvbertie View Post
I would imagine she did this because that is when and where her youngest son was killed - Ypres Salient in 1914 (27th October).

I love the fact that his grave is no different to any other known British or Commonwealth soldier from the wars - same headstone, same design on it - unit, name, rank, age, cross and the optional wording from the family (the last at the bottom had to be paid for by the family at so much per letter - my family didn't put one on my great-grandfather's grave and the discussion two years ago was that we would never agree - and now every living descendant has to agree for it to be added).

This is an image at the bottom of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince..._of_Battenberg and if you click on the image you can see what I mean in more detail. All Commonwealth War Graves look like this, except for those at Gallipoli (as far as I am aware) as the soil there couldn't hold them upright so they lie down. There may be some other places where they lie them down but still with the same formula. The British have their unit badges while the Aussies have the rising sun, the Kiwis the fern, the Canadians the maple leaf, the South Africans a springbok. The exception are those who have earned the Victoria Cross as that is used to replace the unit badge. Each soldier also had the option on no religious emblem or a Jewish or Muslim one if they so desire. It was on one of the many forms they filled in either on enlistment or on embarkation. If it is the grave of an unknown soldier it will have the cross and 'Known Unto God' at the bottom - no family needed to pay for that one of course.

Sorry gone OT but I do hope people won't mind.
I don't mind at all. In fact I think it's very interesting & deeply moving. The phrase "Known unto God" was Kipling's of course. He lost his son at Loos.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
battenberg, biography, british history, pictures, princess beatrice, queen victoria's children


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester (1900-1974) and Princess Alice (1901-2004) Catharine British Royal History 183 09-14-2019 10:42 PM
Prince Valdemar (1858 - 1939), Princess Marie and family Jil Danish Royal History 46 08-30-2019 09:48 PM
Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom and Prince Henry Battenberg - 1885 elenaris Historical Royal Weddings 30 11-19-2016 11:07 PM
Princess Louise, Duchess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (1858-1924) Marengo Belgian Royal History 24 01-22-2016 04:00 AM
Princess Helen of Greece, daughter of Constantine I (1896-1982) geli Greek Royal History 21 01-29-2010 11:56 PM




Popular Tags
administrator alqasimi aristocracy armenia belgian royal family castles chittagong countess of snowdon crown crown prince hussein crown prince hussein's future wife crown princess victoria current events cyprus danish history denmark duchess of sussex duke of cambridge duke of sussex dutch history french revolution genealogy general news germany head of the house henry v house of bernadotte house of bourbon house of glucksburg house of grimaldi house of orange-nassau house of saxe-coburg and gotha jumma kiko king philippe letter lithuanian castles marriage mbs meghan markle monaco christening monarchist monarchy monogram naples nelson mandela bay norwegian royal family official visit palaces potential areas prince charles prince harry princely family of monaco prince of wales princess benedikte queen mathilde queen paola rania of jordan romanov family rumania shakespeare south korea spanish royal state visit sweden swedish history swedish royal family united kingdom usa windy city


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:07 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019
Jelsoft Enterprises
×