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Old 09-09-2013, 08:10 AM
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Old 06-27-2014, 08:52 PM
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Mary's 1st marriagn

Well, I have enjoyed reading through this thread. I am currently reading a bio of QEI by Alison Wier and I am in the Mary drama now.

I appears that she got pregnant quickly with Darnley. Does anyone know why she apparently never even conceived with her first husband? I believe they were living together as man and wife for at least a year, right?

Anyway, just curious.


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Francis was sickly and after their marriage, he died after a year.

Thing is, Mary wasn't brought up to rule, she was brought up to be a consort, wife, ornament to a cultured court, not as an administrator.

During the critical years of her development, she was spoiled and pampered and feted, not at all required to learn and participate in the day to day running of the country, or her country.

After Francis died, her charmed life ended and she had no idea how to handle it. Her whole life was then dedicated trying to recreate the carefree effortless past of her childhood and teenage years.

Then she went to Scotland and couldn't handle it.

I don't blame her for not doing too well, her nobility was bought and paid for by Elizabeth and her nobility spent so much time asserting themselves against her that she couldn't accomplish anything at all of substance.
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:26 PM
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Mary's first husband, Francis II of France died in 1560.
Mary returned to Scotland nine months after Francis' death.
Other than Archduke Charles of Austria and Don Carlos of Spain, were any other royal princes or kings considered as a possible spouse for Mary?
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Old 06-30-2014, 02:08 AM
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Concerning Mary's twins who were supposed to be stillborn, I remember a person on another forum many years ago--ten or so--who said that he was descended from one of the twins. He said that they were taken secretly to France, possibly by Lady Mar, and raised there in total secrecy, since it was known that the Scottish nobles were hostile to Mary. He had some interesting evidence, as I recall, and it sounded to me like he could be telling the truth.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:42 PM
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Mary of Guise ruled Scotland as regent for her daughter, Queen Mary.
Was Mary of Guise the sole regent?

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