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Old 09-22-2016, 11:07 AM
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Someone said on another thread that George and his brother shared women but I thought George was more straight laced like his grandfather and it was his father and uncle that used to do that
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:05 PM
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That was when George was a very young man, when his brother was alive and he himself was in the Navy. Long before he was married. And only one young woman was mentioned.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:47 PM
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Ok thank you for clearing that up. Did the father and uncle do the same do you know?
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:31 PM
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That was when George was a very young man, when his brother was alive and he himself was in the Navy. Long before he was married. And only one young woman was mentioned.
They probably had access to some young women who were available, and the two girls shared premises..
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Is it correct to remark that King George V stood for traditional ways and values?
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:07 AM
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Is it correct to remark that King George V stood for traditional ways and values?
Yes, although some of his traditional were very stiff, strict and stifling. He didn't create a good family life for his kids.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:10 PM
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Dman, would you say that George V was traditional like Queen Victoria? Or was he more traditional like his father, Edward VII?
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Old 10-13-2016, 05:48 AM
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Yes, George V was a deeply conservative man. In some ways though he went the extra mile to show that he was a constitutional monarch for all the people of Britain.

His wearing of a red tie, (red for socialism) for instance, at the kissing of hands of the Prime Minister of the first Labour Government in British history, his getting on personally very well with many of the Ministers in that Labour Government, especially Jimmy Thomas, the ex Union leader, with whom he shared dirty jokes.

There was King George's remark to the prominent mine owner, the Earl of Derby, at the time of the 1926 National Strike, "YOU try living on a fiver (five pounds) a week!" He loved football (soccer) at a time when it was considered a very working class sport, and was there at Wembley often to present the FA Cup.

So, George may have been conservative and traditional in his personal views, but he certainly wasn't elitist.
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:01 AM
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Yes, George V was a deeply conservative man. In some ways though he went the extra mile to show that he was a constitutional monarch for all the people of Britain.

His wearing of a red tie, (red for socialism) for instance, at the kissing of rings of the Prime Minister of the first Labour Government in British history, his getting on personally very well with many of the Ministers in that Labour Government, especially Jimmy Thomas, the ex Union leader, with whom he shared dirty jokes.

There was King George's remark to the prominent mine owner, the Earl of Derby, at the time of the 1926 National Strike, "YOU try living on a fiver (five pounds) a week!" He loved football (soccer) at a time when it was considered a very working class sport, and was there at Wembley often to present the FA Cup.

So, George may have been conservative and traditional in his personal views, but he certainly wasn't elitist.

I would call George V's getting along with Labour ministers "survival instinct". Basically, he knew that antagonizing Labour policy would mean Labour adopting a republican platform as was indeed the case many decades later in Australia when Sir John Kerr, representing the Queen, dismissed the Labour government .
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I wouldn't say that there was a very strong republican sentiment in England between the Wars, Mbruno, unlike Australia in the 1970's. British working class people then, who made up the greatest proportion of those who voted for the Labour Party, (I'm not talking about prominent early Labourites like Keir Hardy or George Bernard Shaw) were loyal to the Crown for the most part.

George seems to have made an effort because he wanted to be seen to be fair and equal to both political parties. He got on well with Ramsay MacDonald, the Labour Prime Minister, even after the later Labour split.

Some of his relatives were apparently shocked that Labour had been elected to power and were anxious about Russian Bolshevikism getting into national life. However, the British Labour Party at that time was very different to its continental counterparts.
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Old 10-13-2016, 01:50 PM
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Quite a few monarchies toppled in the early 20th century and IMO George V seemed quite obsessed over preserving the British monarchy and it influenced his actions from rescinding the offer of asylum to the Russian Imperial Family, to embracing the Labour Party (as long as they were dressed appropriately), to undertaking events that brought him and Queen Mary closer to "his people," and using new technology like "the wireless" to send out a Christmas message to the empire.
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I think King George was a man who believed in discipline and in doing his duty, if that's what you mean, Cyril. He was no intellectual but he had great common sense, and knew after the First World War that monarchies that didn't serve their people would probably not long survive.

On the other hand, as second in line to the throne in his grandmother's reign George spent a great deal of time at Sandringham and other estates shooting things and looking over his stamp collection. Of course he performed the occasional Royal engagement but I don't know that he was that wedded to public service as a young man.
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