Henry VIII (1491-1547) and Wives

[An Ard Ri]

Remarkable that it has survived and what a connection to Anne Boleyn!

 

[CyrilVladisla]

In The Other Tudors Philippa Jones wrote:
On September 1, 1532 Anne Boleyn was created Anne Rochford, Marquess of Pembroke, owning her title in her own right.

Why did Anne have to use Rochford?

 

[Gawin]

In The Other Tudors Philippa Jones wrote:
On September 1, 1532 Anne Boleyn was created Anne Rochford, Marquess of Pembroke, owning her title in her own right.

Why did Anne have to use Rochford?

After her father was created Viscount Rochford in 1525, Anne sometimes called herself "Anne Rocheford/Rochford."

These source includes a letter she signed as "Anne Rocheford':
https://archive.org/details/livesofqueensofe02striuoft/page/586/mode/2up?view=theater

And this one contains a letter she signed as "Anne Rochford":

Under These Restless Skies: Lady Bridget Wingfield

 

[Tatiana Maria]

After her father was created Viscount Rochford in 1525, Anne sometimes called herself "Anne Rocheford/Rochford."

These source includes a letter she signed as "Anne Rocheford':
https://archive.org/details/livesofqueensofe02striuoft/page/586/mode/2up?view=theater

And this one contains a letter she signed as "Anne Rochford":

Under These Restless Skies: Lady Bridget Wingfield

Thank you for this. Another helpful reminder that the names by which historical figures and families are called posthumously quite often are not reflective of the names they used in actuality.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Sir Thomas Boleyn also had the titles of Earl of Wiltshire and Earl of Ormond (Irish title) bestowed on him in 1529.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

In 1546 King Henry VIII made peace with France. Before this when England and France were at war, why did King Henry sell off some monastic lands?

 

[An Ard Ri]

In 1546 King Henry VIII made peace with France. Before this when England and France were at war, why did King Henry sell off some monastic lands?

If Henry was at war with France he would need a war chest and he had an abundance of Monastic lands having dissolved the Abbeys and other Religious houses from 1535 onwards.

Selling the monastic lands would raise money for his fruitless wars.

 

[Alison H]

Such a waste of money. Some of the Edward VI Grammar Schools founded with the money from the dissolution of the chantries are still going strong today, as are the university colleges founded by Cardinal Wolsey and Lady Margaret Beaufort. That money was a drop in the ocean compared to what Henry got from taking the wealth of the monasteries and then selling off the land - just think what could have been achieved if he'd spent the money on something useful!

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Did you know that Anne Stafford, Countess of Huntingdon was a mistress of King Henry VIII?

 

[An Ard Ri]

I had never heard of Lady Anne being a mistress of Henry VIII before but she was involved in a scandal Sir William Compton and ended up with Lady Anne being sent to a convent for some time.

Lady Anne was the daughter of Lady Catherine Woodville a sister of Queen Elizabeth and a cousin of the King.

 

[Blog Real]

Henry with Emperor Charles V (right) and Pope Leo X (centre), c. 1520.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._Charles_Quint_and_Pope_Leon_X_circa_1520.jpg

 

[An Ard Ri]

Henry with Emperor Charles V (right) and Pope Leo X (centre), c. 1520.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._Charles_Quint_and_Pope_Leon_X_circa_1520.jpg

Pope Leo X never met Henry VIII but on the 1th of October 1521, Henry was made Fidei Defensor (Defender of the Faith) by Pope Leo X!

 

[An Ard Ri]

An interesting article from History on the Mary Rose its importance to Henry VIII

https://www.historyextra.com/period/tudor/mary-rose-name-meaning-henry-viii/

 

[Durham]

An interesting article from History on the Mary Rose its importance to Henry VIII

https://www.historyextra.com/period/tudor/mary-rose-name-meaning-henry-viii/

Thank you for this. Anything about the Mary Rose is fascinating.

The exhibition at Portsmouth really is extraordinary. Even more of a highlight of the naval museum than HMS Victory to my mind.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

King Henry VIII and Cardinal Thomas Wolsey
http://www.maryevans.com/history/10056299

 

[An Ard Ri]

King Henry VIII and Cardinal Thomas Wolsey
http://www.maryevans.com/history/10056299

The rapid rise of Cardinal Wolsey put an end to the careers of two very trusted counsellors,both of whom had also served Henry VII.

Richard Foxe,Bishop of Winchester and Lord Privy Seal until 1516.

William Warham,Archbishop of Canterbury and Lord Chancellor until 1515.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Miniature with a portrait of King Henry VIII of England
http://imgur.com/gallery/nJUpIlJ

 

[An Ard Ri]

Miniature with a portrait of King Henry VIII of England
http://imgur.com/gallery/nJUpIlJ

That dates from 1540 towards the latter years of Henry's reign and John outlived the king and died in 1554 during the reign of Queen Mary!

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Christina, Dowager Duchess of Milan could have been a possible wife for King Henry VIII.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Christina was mentioned after the death of Jane Seymour in 1537 but as the Princess was Catherine of Aragon's great-niece the proposal was rejected by Christina's aunt ,Mary of Hungary who was not a fan of Henry VIII.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Mary of Hungary was the daughter of Queen Joanna (Juana) and King Philip I of Castile.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Mary of Hungary was the daughter of Queen Joanna (Juana) and King Philip I of Castile.

Yes and an aunt of Catherine of Aragon.
Following the death of her aunt,the Archduchess Margaret of Austria,her brother Charles V appointed her the Imperial Regent of Habsburg Netherlands from 1531 until 1555.

 

[CyrilVladisla]

Lord Herbert of Cherbury stated in The Life and Raigne of Henry the Eighth, published in 1649, that Prince Henry, as a younger son, was destined for the Church.

 

[An Ard Ri]

An article on Catherine Parr or Anne of Cleves -The Survivors
https://www.historic-uk.com/History...ne-Of-Cleves-The-Real-Survivor-Of-Henry-VIII/

 

[Denville]

K Parr didn't survive all that long.

 

[An Ard Ri]

K Parr didn't survive all that long.

No but she managed to keep her head and outlive Henry.

 

[Denville]

No but she managed to keep her head and outlive Henry.

Only just. She had a pretty rotten life after H died, a brief happiness with TOm Seymour, and then finding he was betraying her with Elizabeth, and she ended up dying in childbirth within a year.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Had Henry lived longer she might not have kept her head given her religious differences with the king.

Along with the first Catherine both are my favourite of the wives.

 

[Denville]

Im not sure the king was likely to execute his wife over her being an ardent Protestant. I think some historians feel that he used her to give a signal to the Catholics that he supported her, by and large. He held a middle course, but he allowed Edward ot have Protestant tutors and it was clear that the Protestant side was winning in the disputes on religion. ANyway, Catherine probalby had looked forward to becoming a widow and having her freedom again, and then found that her new husband was no better than Henry had been and was not in love with her, and was using her. Anne of Cleves was probalby the luckiest wife.

 

[An Ard Ri]

In 1546 there was an actual arrest warrant was drawn up for Catherine so there was danger surrounding her Protestant beliefs.
The king at this time was heavily under the influence of ultra conservatives like Bishop Gardiner and Lord Wriothesley (the Lord Chancellor).