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The Funeral of Queen Elizabeth of York

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Elizabeth of York was the First Consort of a new dynasty.
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How did Henry VII get to be called the Huckster King?
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Henry VII was known for being a shrewd business man who manipulated the overseas trade and had a lot of taxes. As a result he was called "the Accountant" and "Huckster."
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Roland de Velville was a son of King Henry VII by a French mistress. Roland was born around 1474. Another spelling of his surname was Vielleville, which indicated that Roland's mother belonged to the de Vielleville family. When Henry VII became King, Roland was knighted. He was Constable of Beaumaris Castle.
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It is debated whether he was Henry's son of simply one of the young men who came within him from Brittany. Either way, he was a prominent figure.

His granddaughter Katherine Tudor is known as the mother of Wales. She was married 4 times and her extensive descendants is well known. Her eldest son was executed for his part in the babblington plot. Her other son by her first husband was well respected in literary circles and writer himself. He was good friends with Ben johnson and involved with Shakespeare. She had 2 daughters from her second marriage to a wealthy merchant who likely died of poison having been a spy for the queen. She had a son and daughter from a third marriage. Her final husband outlived her, only one she had no kids with.

By her first marriage, she belonged to the prominent Salisbury family, her son's above both well known members. Her descendants include Hester Thrace, a prominent eighteenth century diarist and great source of info on Samuel johnson. Explorer John Salisbury, one of the founders of Halifax is Aldo a descendent.
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Hidden buildings at Pembroke Castle may reveal where King Henry VII was born | Daily Mail Online
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I know that Henry had a child before he married Elizabeth but is there any evidence that he cheated on her at all during their marriage?
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No, I don't think there is. Of course there was all that business of musing over whether to marry the widow of his son Arthur (Katherine of Aragon) because he was reluctant to return her dowry, but he didn't in the end, and he was a widower himself at the time, anyway.

In fact, Henry seems to have been remarkably chaste for a monarch of those times. He may have been rather on the cold side emotionally, very different to his son, who IMO resembled his maternal grandfather in many ways.
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In fact, Henry seems to have been remarkably chaste for a monarch of those times. He may have been rather on the cold side emotionally, very different to his son, who IMO resembles his maternal grandfather in many ways.
Henry VIII inherited his father's paranoia and his grandfather Edward IV's looks and libido - a bad combination for the country in a nearly absolute monarch but wonderful for dramatists...
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I would not say that Henry's libido was all that great.. he had only 2 known mistresses and if he had a few other casual flings they were clearly very "low key" and few in number.
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We are off topic discussing Henry VIII on this thread, but after all he had his famed six wives, as well as a couple of mistresses, and what happened to his spouses has been the subject of many books and TV series.

If a series was made about Henry VII's love life it would be sparse indeed. He and Elizabeth became very fond of each other throughout their marriage IMO and they produced eight children together. Maybe there wasn't great passion in their union as there was with Henry and a couple of his brides but at least they stayed together until Elizabeth's death and were faithful to each other. After Elizabeth's death Henry withdrew into his private apartments for some time to grieve alone, and he never remarried.
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he did consider it as I recall, remarriage. To Cath of aragon and "Juana the Mad" of Spain
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Wasn't there talk of a possible marriage with Louise de Savoie ,mother of Francois I prior to her sons accession to the throne.As much as Louise craved to be a queen she refused to leave her beloved son and France and Louis XII/Anne of Brittany's marriage plans were scrapped.
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Henry did consider Joan of Naples as a bride and sent people to the court of the young widow to send back a detailed physical description. He seemed to want someone who looked like Elizabeth. None of the marriage negotiations with various widows came to anything. I believe he was shattered by Elizabeth's death and was half hearted when searching for a replacement. Most kings of the period did remarry when left widowed in their thirties, but Henry didn't.

I do have a bit of a soft spot for Henry VII, in spite of his love of money and cool nature he wasn't 1/10 the tyrant his son turned out to be, nor was he by the standards of many of his contemporaries in Europe.
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Imagine Louise of Savoy as Henry VIII's step mother and also mother of the French king,that would have been interesting!

Plus Louise would have made mince meat of Anne Boleyn.
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I don't think it was ever seriously considered, was it, especially by the French side? The real prize to the English Court appears to have been Louise's daughter Marguerite, whom they had some hopes of marrying off to young Henry, the King's oldest son or perhaps the King. She refused to marry either Henry, and so the English came back with a proposal that Marguerite marry young Henry (the future King) and her mother marry the ageing Henry VII. Neither lady wanted to.

Louise was indeed a cultured and strong minded woman. I believe she didn't really want Mary Queen of Scots to marry the future King Francois II either, so maybe she just didn't want alliances with the British Isles.
I thought Louise had met Anne Boleyn very early on, when she was sent for training as a nobleman's young daughter at the French Court.
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I was under the impression that joan of Navarre was the only real one considered. She was put forward by Isabella who was trying to divert attention from Catherine.
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