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In the Czech Republic the return to the monarchic system is very unlikely (I would say impossible, but never say never, of course). There is a movement called Koruna česká, The Czech Crown, which has the establishment of the constitutional monarchy as its main goal. This movement says that it can`t answer the question of who would come to the throne, because the people themselves would elect the new king in a referendum, but it is more then obvious that it supports the Habsbourgs. But, I can not immagine even for a second to have a Habsburg as a representant of our state, after everything that happened in the history.
Well, the movement got only 0.13 of votes in the last elections in 2006, so the people are really not pro-monarchic at all. |
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To reestablish a monarchy, the most important thing is having history of monarchy and only one pretender. The republics which have these two things are Serbia, Croatia, Austria, Montenegro, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Iran, Egypt... The republics which are not likely to become monarchies again because they have multiple pretenders are France, Russia, Germany, Portugal...
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I would love for France to become a Monarchy again. Just for the wonderful parties.
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![]() ![]() Yes quite possible.
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![]() ![]() Thank you, lumutqueen!![]() Hope your dreams come true one day!
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Honestly, probably none. How much could it cost?
But whe still have imagination so why not... Austria, Russia maybe France. |
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Totally agree, those would be my choices. Austria and Russia because of their past splendour, and France...wow, just imagine how glamorous would be a French monarchy nowadays...
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Is the Giscard d'Estaing family noble btw? Or is it one of these unclear french 'noble' families, like the Laborde de Montpezats?
- According to several serious sources a son of Giscard d'Estaing was about to get engaged with princess Margaretha of Luxembourg (now of Liechtenstein), but it was cancelled.
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From my understanding it is euphemistically "unclear". It is known that the President's grandfather added d'Estaing to the family name of Giscard in 1922, taking advantage of a very distant family connection.
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Examples of French nobles, out of my mind, in national politics are Hervé de Charette de la Condrie, Josselin de Rohan-Chabot, the previous Premier Minister Dominique Galouzeau de Villepin, the presidential candidate (who lost in the first round) Philippe le Jolis de Villiers de Santignon, etc.
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Isn't Villepin also one of the 'unclear' nobles? I believe Point de Vue had an issue about real and false nobles in French politics, not to long ago. Mr de Villepin was given a red mark by Point de Vue...
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I don't really think any of the former monarchies are in any danger of becoming such again
Generally, I would say the movement is in the opposite direction. Finland, where I live, was first ruled by the kings of Sweden and then by the tsars of Russia, and and even had a king of its own for a very short period of time in the 1910s. Here most everyone thinks monarchy is ridiculous and royals mere parasites I would imagine that for example most French folks feel the same.Bringing back old ruling families would be odd - like wiping out history, revolutions, change. New ruling families, on the other hand - who would you choose? In the old days, one became noble by serving the country, and then royal - in most cases - by luck and sheer sharp elbows. Would someone like Sir Bob Geldof - noble by serving his country - be a fitting person to become a king? How would you choose a monarch? By a popular vote? Would he/she pass the throne to his/her offspring or would there be another election? What would someone have to do to earn that status? Not a very practical idea, I'm afraid
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lisamaria, I agree about Finland. What did the House of Hesse ever do for Suomi? Or, for that matter, Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov, or even Vasa? There is really not much of a successful tradition of monarchy, so there isn't really much of anything to restore. But not all countries are this way.
France needs to stay a republic. Even Turkey, with its six centuries of Osmanli rule, has flourished as Turkiye Cumhuriyeti (Republic of Turkey). What Ataturk did cannot be undone, and most Turks like it that way. |
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Sometimes I think Iraq could use its monarchy back, but then again the Hashemites weren't well-liked there...mostly because they were perceived as pandering to the British. If restored, the same accusations would be made about the relationship with the US. Seriously, though, there is something to be said for the descendants of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).
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I think Afghanistan could have also benefited had the King returned, taken his rightful place on the throne and led his country toward democracy. Perhaps he would have if any of his sons had been interested in following in his footsteps and finishing the task after his death.
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I think as said earlier countries like Vietnam have a good chance of being a Monarchy. I also agree with lisamaria in Finland's case and many others in Europe. However I think it really comes down to the culture of the people and what they perceive as being a good leader? Elected or from decent. Some cultures grow onto their leaders for a lifetime while others may want change every once in a while. It's interesting about Afghanistan because there was popular support for a return to the monarchy once former King Zahir Shah returned from exile, however he declined.
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