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Ummm I will say Jean Bernadotte also known as King Carl-Johan of Sweden and Denmark he went from a Napoleonic Marshall to Crown Prince under Prince Carl VII Then King of not one but two countries in the span on 2 years
A few minor corrections...he arrived in Sweden and became the Crown Prince 1810 but did not become King until 1818. He was never King of Denmark. He was however King of Sweden and Norway. Karl XIV Johan succeeded Karl XIII and not Karl XII who lived 1682 to 1718.
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^^ Manuel II, the last king of Portugal became a monarch very unexpectedly. On February 1st 1908 Manuel, his older brother Crown Prince Luis Filipe and their parents King Carlos and Queen Maria Amalia got into a carriage in Lisbon to drive back to their palace.

Within minutes the party came under fire from assassins' bullets. King Carlos died immediately and Luis Filipe was mortally wounded. He died within hours and Manuel was proclaimed King. He wasn't a monarch for very long as he and his family went into permanent exile in October 1910, but his was a very unexpected accession to the throne.
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A few minor corrections...he arrived in Sweden and became the Crown Prince 1810 but did not become King until 1818. He was never King of Denmark. He was however King of Sweden and Norway. Karl XIV Johan succeeded Karl XIII and not Karl XII who lived 1682 to 1718.
It is very interesting though that Jean-Baptiste (Carl Johan) and Desirée (Desideria) were both born into middle class families down in France, but they would become king and queen in Sweden. Jean-Baptiste would state later in his life "nobody has made a career like mine". They had previously received a principality in Italy, Pontecorvo, by Napoleon, but they would never actually visit the place, and their new life in Sweden was really hard on Desirée in particular.
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It is very interesting though that Jean-Baptiste (Carl Johan) and Desirée (Desideria) were both born into middle class families down in France, but really hard on Desirée in particular.
That was a very weird start to a royal dynasty.
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Désirée found the Swedish weather to be very harsh. She found it hard to adapt to the formality and responsibilities of her new role as Crown Princess.
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That was a very weird start to a royal dynasty.
To be fair though, that was rather typical of that era. Because after the French revolution, there were many "upstarts" on the thrones of Europe. Napoleon I himself had come from a minor aristocratic family at Corsica, but he was able to make himself emperor of France and his relatives kings of different other countries. Desiree's sister Julie, who happened to be married to one of Napoleon's brothers, became the queen of Spain. Desirée had been betrothed to Napoleon, and he would keep her under his protection even after he dumped her for another woman. Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte had rised through the ranks during the revolution, so he could become a marshall, the prince of Ponte-Corvo and finally king of Sweden and Norway.

Yet again, two things are special about the Bernadottes:
1: Their kingdom was way up in northen Europe, while all the other Napoleonic upstarts had theirs in southern Europe.
2: Their descendants are still royals to this day, which is not true for any of their peers.
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Désirée found the Swedish weather to be very harsh. She found it hard to adapt to the formality and responsibilities of her new role as Crown Princess.
Jean-Baptiste wasn't too pleased about the cold weather either. There are stories about how he refused to get out of his bed in the morning, so he did his work from his bedroom. Neither he or Desirée would learn Swedish properly. But their son Oscar, who only was a kid when they had to move to Sweden, was able to adapt to the new environment and learn the language. I believe that he even acted as his father's interpretor at times.
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