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Gynandera of Nepal -- twice. As a very young child he was placed on the throne by the Hereditary Rana Prime Ministerial family, when his grandfather and rest of the RF took refuge at the Indian Embassy in order to shak-off Rana rule. He then again became King after the murder of his brother King Birendra and death of Crown Prince Dipendra a few days later back in 2001. (In a nutshell, Dipendra was the assasin of the his father,the King , as well as his mother, siblings, and other members of the Nepalese Royal family. He died a few days later from injuries resulting from a botched suicide attempt).

(and other members of the RF) at the Narayanhiti Palace in 2001 by (the then) Crown Prince Dipendra.
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King Louis XV of France certainly deserves a mention. His grandfather, the Grand Dauphin, his father, the Duke of Burgundy and his elder brother, the Duke of Brittany all died in less than a year, between April 1711 and March 1712, leaving two-year-old Louis heir to the throne of his great-grandfather.
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Old 10-01-2005, 10:01 AM
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I would love to see an interview with King Albert, Queen Elizabeth, Queen Margarthe, Queen Beatrix and King Juan Carlos about how they felt when they realized that they would be the monarch (I put Queen Beatrix on the list since there was always the chance she would be displaced by a younger brother)
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Nicholas I became Tsar after the early demise of his brother, Alexander I. (However, some claim that Alexander I didn't die, but that he lived the rest of his life as a holy man or a monk).
To be precise, Nicholas I became Emperor when his brother Constantine renounced his succession. Constantine was proclaimed Emperor after the death of Alexander I, but he did not accept the emperorship. Constantine had renounced his rights in an instrument that was submitted to Alexander I circa 1820 in complete secrecy, and most of the statesmen and nobles had little or no idea of its existence. The 'constitutionality' (Russia had no constitution, of course) of Constantine's refusal was questioned by several ministers, and he was duly proclaimed Emperor. The vast empire started to swear allegiance to the new Tsar. The Imperial Mint even began to coin money with the portrait of Constantine I.

Nicholas wrote to 'His Imperial Majesty' in Warsaw (Constantine served as viceroy of Poland), asking him to come at once and take the throne. Constantine wrote back, to 'His Imperial Majesty' in St Petersburg, begging Nicholas to ascend the throne in question. :)

After several rounds of letters Nicholas acceded the throne--as soon as he did he had the December Uprising of 1825 on his hands.
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Can QElizabeth II decide to skip a generation and give the throne to William?Or does the Parliament decide or have to agree? Can the Parliament coerce a monarch who to leave the throne to?
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:01 AM
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Can QElizabeth II decide to skip a generation and give the throne to William?Or does the Parliament decide or have to agree? Can the Parliament coerce a monarch who to leave the throne to?
No she can't decide who should follow her and neither can Parliament. The only way the throne would skip Charles is if he died or was declared insane.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:00 AM
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Tsar Alexander III (Nicholas II' father) became Tsarevich after his older brother Nicholas died of meningitis at age 21. (Alexander also married his dead brother's fiancee Dagmar, who became better known as Marie).

King Juan Carlos of Spain became "heir" after his older brother was accidentally killed in a shooting accident. (I put the heir in quotes due to the circumstances of JC being groomed for the position of King by Franco).

Very fascinating to see all the twists and turns that history has taken over the years!:)
Juan Carlos' brother Alfonso was younger.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:28 AM
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Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria in 1848. Franz Joseph inherited the throne after your uncle Emperor Ferdinand, before the father, Archduke Franz Karl.
Emperor Karl of Austria in 1916. Karl inherited the throne after your Vater's uncle. (Emperor Franz Joseph and Archduke Karl Ludwig were brothers. Karl Ludwig was Karl's Grandfather.)
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Queen Wilhelmina of The Netherlands who became queen when she was aged 10. She had a (much older) halfbrother, prince Alexander, when she was 4. Another unexpected king was King Willem III of Great-Britain, Stadtholder of The United Provinces, ho took over the throne from his father-in-law.
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These are examples from Swedish history:

The Wasa dynasty (1523-1654): King Gustav I, who we usually call Gustav Wasa, was married three times. His first wife and queen was Katarina of Sachsen-Lauenburg. She gave birth to a son, the future king Erik XIV, but she died soon after that. The king soon re-married, and Margareta Leijonhufwud became his second wife and queen. She gave birth to many children, including the future kings Johan III and Carl IX. She was never pleased with the fact, that her step-son Erik was close to the throne than her own sons. Queen Margareta died, and the aging King Gustav married a third time, to seventeen-year-old Katarina Stenbock. Katarina Stenbock had no children, and she was only twentyfive years old, when she became a widow at the king's death eight years later. When King Gustav died, Crown prince Erik became King Erik XIV. But he didn't get along well with his half-brothers Johan and Carl. Soon enough, they overthrew their brother, and Johan became King Johan III, and Erik's children never inherited the Swedish thrown. After Johan's death, his son Sigismund became king. But he was a Catholic, since his mother was the Polish princess Catherine Jagellonica, and he also was the king of Poland after his grandfather. Gustav Wasa had turned Sweden into a Lutheran country, and Catholics were suspicious at the time. Finally, Sweden was taken away from him, and his uncle Carl became King Carl IX, so Sigismund had to do with Poland. After Carl IX:s death, his son Gustav II Adolf and his granddaughter Christina were the last two Swedish monarchs of the Wasa dynasty. At least two unexpected kings there.

The Pfalz dynasty (1654-1751): After Queen Christina (the woman in my avatar and my namesake) abdicated and became Catholic, her cousin Carl Gustav became king Carl X Gustav. His son was King Carl XI and his grandson was KIng Carl XII. No problems there, except for that both Carl X Gustav and Carl XI died before their sons were adults. But then, Carl XII didn't want to marry. He was only abroad waring, and no children were born. When King Carl XII eventually died in the war without issues, his sister Ulrika Eleonora became quéen. Two years later, she gave the thrown to her husband Frederic of Hessen-Kassel, and they were co-regents for years. These two were unexpected monarchs.

The Holstein-Gottorp dynasty (1751-1818): However, Ulrika Eleonora never had children, and Frederic's children with his mistress Hedvig Taube had no right to inherit the thrown. Instead, he adopted Prince Adolf Frederic of Holstein-Gottorp. He later became king of Sweden, even though he never learned to speak Swedish, and is most known for eating himself to death on wheat buns (even if his meal also consisted of other food). His son became King Gustav III, a much more famous historical figure. But Gustaf III didn't have luck with his marriage to Sophie Madeleine of Denmark, and it took a long time for them to get children. When King Gustav died after he had been shot at a theater (he loved theaters and everything cultural), his son Gustav Adolf was only fourteen years old. However, the boy became King Gustav IV Adolf. When he lost Finland to Russia in a war, he had to abdicate and flee the country with his family. His elderly uncle Carl, Gustaf III:s younger brother, became king Carl XIII. One unexpected king there.

The Bernadotte dynasty (1818 - present): But like Frederic of Hessen-Kassel, Carl XIII had illegimate children, but no children by his wife. He had to adopt, and after the first choice, a Danish prince, had died, the choice fell on French general Jean Baptiste Bernadotte. He was a good warrior in the critical times of the Napoleon wars, and he had a young son, Oscar, whose mere existence was a good security for the survival of the royal house. Soon enough, Jean Baptise Bernadotte became King Carl XIV Johan. In due time, his son Oscar became King Oscar I and his grandson Carl became King Carl XV. But Carl and his wife Louise of the Netherlands didn't have it easy. They had a daughter and a son. But little Prince Carl died, and Princess Louise was now their only child. But Louise had two uncles, Oscar and August, and her uncle Oscar kept getting sons with his wife Sophie of Nassau. Surrounded by all these male relatives, Louise couldn't be heir, and instead, she was married off to Denmark, where she became the wife of the future King Frederic VIII. She eventually became Queen Louise of Denmark and the mother King Christian X of Denmark and King Haakon VIII of Norway. But Sweden was lost for her, and when her father King Carl XV died, his brother Oscar became Oscar II. That's an unexpected monarch. Oscar II was the father of King Gustav V, who was the father of King Gustav VI Adolf. But since Gustav VI Adolf's son Gustav Adolf Edmund died in a plane crash, his grandson had to succeed him as King Carl XVI Gustaf. That's the only example of skipping a generation in Swedish history.
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:39 PM
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King Juan Carlos of Spain became "heir" after his older brother was accidentally killed in a shooting accident. (I put the heir in quotes due to the circumstances of JC being groomed for the position of King by Franco).

Very fascinating to see all the twists and turns that history has taken over the years!:)
As far as I remember it was J C younger brother who was shot and not his elder brother
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Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg- her sister GD Marie Adelaide was forced to abdicate.
Why was she forced to abdicate?
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Why was she forced to abdicate?
"During World War I, she enjoyed a rather cordial relationship with the German occupiers, the root of harsh criticism after the liberation. Although not having done anything unconstitutional, voices in Parliament began to demand her abdication in January 1919. After consulting with the Prime Minister, she abdicated on January 14, 1919 and was succeeded by her younger sister Charlote."
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-A..._of_Luxembourg and http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/Luxembourg.html
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George V

I just read the Wikipedia biography of the unexpected monarch George V and I think he was a very good king. He took many wise decisions like changing the name of the royals to Windsor. He was very loved by the people. They say he was not a brilliant person, but I think he was intelligent enough for being a good king. He was very disapointed with his heir Edward VIII and kind of predicted what happened later. He was extremely good-looking and resembled his first cousin Nicholas II of Russia. He managed to lead a good marriage, even it was with the bride Queen Victoria had chosen for his older brother, and then for him too when his brother died. Not perfect, it seems he was tough with his sons (¡five royal blood princes!), but a rather pleasant and nice personality, and a good king.
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I know his elder brother Prince Eddy has a lot of supporters, but I agree with you that George V was a good king, especially for the period of history when he was monarch, and I think he made a better king than his brother would have.
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Great thread, everyone is soooo knowledgeable here, I love learning from everyone. Thanks!!
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The former King Constantine II of Greece become king when his father King Paul died.
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Yes, but as Constantine was Diadoch or Crown Prince he can't be called an 'unexpected monarch', which is this thread's topic.
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Queen Margrethe I of denmark. I believe she only because her husband died and her son was too young to rule at the time.
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Yes, but as Constantine was Diadoch or Crown Prince he can't be called an 'unexpected monarch', which is this thread's topic.
I know he was crowed prince but he become king at the age of 23 that is unexpected to become king at such an young age.
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