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Old 05-15-2012, 09:11 AM
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Is it not true though that they still legally have been minors then?
Laws were quite different in mediaeval times; marriageable age was well below 16.
The first recorded law concerning marriageable age dated back to 1275. As part of rape laws, it was deemed a criminal offence to "ravish a maiden within age, with or without consent". The "within age" was interpreted as the age of marriage, which at the time was 12 years old. Although people still could marry younger than that (although they had to be at least 7), in order to consummate the marriage, they had to be over 12.

According to 12th century jurist Gratian, the marriageable age was considered to be between 12 and 14. However, the age of consent was 7; consequently, most authorities honoured marriages conducted between two consenting individuals older than 7. In fact, marriages between children younger than that, though rare, were accepted as well; there are records of marriages of children as young as 2. As long as the child was consenting (although what consent can be given at 2 is arguable), the marriage was unlikely to be considered illegal. At the same time, the age of consummation was still expected to be 12.

When the American colonies were established, they took the English law and traditions as model. Consequentially, the age of marriage was established at 12, although younger marriages were accepted as well.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:37 AM
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Is it not true though that they still legally have been minors then?
As far as I know there was no legal "age of majority" during medieval times as there is today, when a youth was considered as an adult depended on where he lived and his position in society. Here is an interesting site about children in medieval times: Medieval Children
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As far as I know there was no legal "age of majority" during medieval times as there is today, when a youth was considered as an adult depended on where he lived and his position in society. Here is an interesting site about children in medieval times: Medieval Children
Interesting link, thanks.
I rather enjoyed the article, especially as it dealt with false ideas about children in medieval times.

There was no age of majority, but from about 12th century onwards there was age of consent; in most (European) countries, it was 12 for girls and 10 for boys.
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I don't know about medieval times, but in ancient Rome, a girl could be married off at 12 years old and a boy at 14 years old. But as we see in this thread, marriage at such young ages were common in the medieval times as well.
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Anne of Bohemia, born May 11, 1366, was 15 when she married King Richard II of England on January 20, 1382.
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HM Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (née of Denmark) married 2 weeks after her 18th birthday in 1964. The late Diana, Princess of Wales married a week after her 20th birthday in 1981.
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^ James II of England married 15 year old Maria of Madona in 1673. She was his second wife and he was 40 years old.
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Just a small correction: James II was 40 when he married the 15-y-o Mary of Modena in 1673; he was born in 1633.
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Thank you MAfan! Still miles too old for Maria though.
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Margaret Beaufort Countess of Richmond and Derby (b. May 1443)
- almost 7 on her first marriege with John de la Pole (Jan/Feb 1450)
- 12 on her second/first marriege to Edmund Tudor (Nov 1455).
In the end, Margaret Beaufort was married four times:1) John de la Pole, married appx August 1450, annulled 1453; 2) Edmund Tudor, married 1455, he died in 1456, leaving a pregnant 13 year-old widow; 3) Sir Henry Stafford, son of the 1st Duke of Buckingham, married 1457, he died 1471 in battle; 4) Thomas Stanley, married 1472 and he died in 1504. Her only child was Henry Tudor.

I just found this thread. How times have changed!
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^ I think it is significant that Margaret had only one child in spite of multiple marriages in an age of huge families. To be giving birth in your early teens with the primitive medical procedures of the time was likely to be horrible and probably left some gynaecological damage. Changed times indeed!
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It has been said Margaret suffered serious complications and nearly died giving birth to Henry who was a very large baby and she was a tiny 13 year old. Likely made it impossible for her to carry after.
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