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Old 04-03-2009, 08:43 AM
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No, two heirs cannot marry each other, so a female William could not marry Frederik, and, in a more realistic example, Frederik or Haakon could not marry Victoria. One of them would have to renounce their throne.
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No, two heirs cannot marry each other, so a female William could not marry Frederik, and, in a more realistic example, Frederik or Haakon could not marry Victoria. One of them would have to renounce their throne.
I don't think this is true. If the monarch and/or parliament gave his/her/their consent, the marriage is possible. Except for the Swedish princes, who are not allowed to marry other dynasts. The consent is not even needed for the British princes, so, as long as the spouse-to-be is not Roman Catholic, it's fine.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:19 PM
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I don't think this is true. If the monarch and/or parliament gave his/her/their consent, the marriage is possible. Exceot for the Swedish princes, who must not marry other dynasts. The consent is not even needed for the British princes, so, as long as the spouse-to-be is not Roman Catholic, it's fine.
But wouldn't it be a major problem for future heirs if two heirs marry? Which throne would their oldest child inherit? Wouldn't it lead to a consolidation of the two thrones?

Suppose, in the older generation, Crown Prince Harald of Norway had married Crown Princess Margrethe of Denmark. He would have then been King of Norway and Prince Consort of Denmark and she would have been Queen of Denmark and Norway. And their first child would grow up to be...King of Denmark and Norway? I don't think that would have been allowed.
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As you said yourself, if two heirs get married and have children together, their child will probably succeed to both thrones one day. But if the British heir apparent marries the Swedish heir apparent and the marriage results in a daughter (born first) and a son (born after the daughter), the daughter would succeed to the throne of Sweden, while the son would succeed to the throne of the United Kingdom, due to different succession laws. If the Prince of Liechtenstein marries the Queen of the UK (I'm talking about hypotethical monarchs in hypotethical situations) and their marriage results in two daughters and no sons, the British throne would pass to the eldest daughter, while the throne of Liechtenstein would pass to the Prince's brother, nephew, uncle or cousin.

I was always fascinated by these endless possibilities. Remember how Petronilla, Queen of Aragon, married Raymond Berengar IV, Count of Barcelona - their son Aphonse became Count of Barcelona and King of Aragon; one of their descendants, King Ferdinand II of Aragon, married their another descendant, Queen Isabella I of Castile - Joanna, Ferdinand's daughter born by Isabella, succeed in Aragon, Barcelona, and Castile; Joanna married the Austrian heir apparent and her son succeeded in Aragon, Barcelona, Castile, Austria, Burgundy, etc!

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But wouldn't it be a major problem for future heirs if two heirs marry? Which throne would their oldest child inherit? Wouldn't it lead to a consolidation of the two thrones?

Suppose, in the older generation, Crown Prince Harald of Norway had married Crown Princess Margrethe of Denmark. He would have then been King of Norway and Prince Consort of Denmark and she would have been Queen of Denmark and Norway. And their first child would grow up to be...King of Denmark and Norway? I don't think that would have been allowed.
Although there is no legal objection to the possibility of two heirs getting married and creating a personal union (except for Swedish royals), the parliaments would never allow such a marriage and the consent wouldn't be given. As for British royals, they do not need anyone's consent, so they can marry any non-Roman Catholic they want.
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:54 PM
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Why can't the swedish royals marry into other royal dynasty's?
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:23 AM
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Why can't the swedish royals marry into other royal dynasty's?
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Because the Swedish don't want to enter another personal union. They have already been in personal union with Norway and Denmark, but both unions eventually collapsed. They don't want it to happen again.
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Old 04-05-2009, 01:09 PM
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maybe Prince William of Wales and Princess Theodora of Greece ...
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:15 PM
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prince harry and princess madeliene sounds rather interesting

for prince william one of the casiraghi sisters (i know they r not royal,but still)

crown princess victoria with prince edward (had he not been married)
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for prince william one of the casiraghi sisters (i know they r not royal,but still)
There is only one Casiraghi girl, Charlotte...
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:42 PM
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Since the "older" generation is all taken and has settled down we could start dreaming about the unattached princes and princesses. Hopefully they will find love between them rather than introducing more commoners to the mix.
Pierre Casiraghi is dating Princess Borromeo, how about Charlotte and Alexandra??
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:48 PM
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Ok,Charlotte & Harry then.What do you think?
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:10 PM
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I would prefer her with one of the Luxenbourg princes.
Same religion no issues there...
Princess Theodora of Greece with the Prince Georg of the Hohenzollerns.
Prince Philipos with one of the Liechtenstein princesses...
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There wer rumours at one time of Princess Tatiana of Liechtenstein and Prince Felipe of Spain. In purely geanalogical terms that would have been a good match. I don't know what it would have been like in personal terms. Another match with Felipe that was considered was with the youngest daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Wurttemberg but apparently Duchess Diana knocked that one on the head. (Suprising as I would have thought that she would have loved to have a future King as son in law).
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Few years ago I read somewhere about marriege between Prince of Wales and Queen Noor... It was around New Year and would happen in next year or smth like that.
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:56 AM
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There wer rumours at one time of Princess Tatiana of Liechtenstein and Prince Felipe of Spain. In purely geanalogical terms that would have been a good match. I don't know what it would have been like in personal terms. Another match with Felipe that was considered was with the youngest daughter of the Duke and Duchess of Wurttemberg but apparently Duchess Diana knocked that one on the head. (Suprising as I would have thought that she would have loved to have a future King as son in law).
Isn't there a gossip that the Wurttemberg girl is a biological daughter of the king of Spain and so a step-sister of prince Felipe?
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:32 AM
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you mean half-sister, step sister would be if his mother sofia had a daughter from a previous relationship and then married his father.
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Isn't there a gossip that the Wurttemberg girl is a biological daughter of the king of Spain and so a step-sister of prince Felipe?
The same I have thought but that I didn't dare to write...
On a side this gossip could explain the opposition of Duchess Diane to this marriage, on the other side the opposition of Diane can be read as a confirm of this gossip...
Btw, this is only pure speculation...
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The same I have thought but that I didn't dare to write...
On a side this gossip could explain the opposition of Duchess Diane to this marriage, on the other side the opposition of Diane can be read as a confirm of this gossip...
Btw, this is only pure speculation...
yes i agree with you mafan....this is pure speculation and imo should not be gone into at all !! . i take such stories with a pinch of salt unless proven otherwise !!

sorry my friend.....
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:29 PM
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maybe Prince William of Wales and Princess Theodora of Greece ...
I've read in some newspaper such like this: William and Theodora will be perfect match. Theodora is even a far cousin of him. But it's one detail: They don't like each other.

I wonder if it is true?
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I've read in some newspaper such like this: William and Theodora will be perfect match. Theodora is even a far cousin of him. But it's one detail: They don't like each other.

I wonder if it is true?
They are cousins, some distant way. Through Prince Phillip. But it wouldn't affect them very much.
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