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Old 04-11-2011, 01:58 AM
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If an heir to a European throne fell in love with someone who was Asian or who was African-American or who was bi-racial or multi racial and wanted to marry that person, I personally would have no problem with that. If would be interesting if such a situation did arise in the future, what the reaction would be from the parents, the citizens of that country and the parliment or the PM. Some would probably be opposed to it, others wouldn't. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that any European heir to the throne has been engaged to someone who was of a different racial background. I know that other royals have had interracial marriages, but they are not heir to thrones.
I don't think any European heir to the throne has married interracially.

King Hussein of Jordan married two Caucasian women (Queen Noor and Princess Muna) and his son, the current King Abdullah, is half-English. However, that may be less of an issue in the Middle East?
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:52 PM
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I think that the time is coming where love will being to blossom without boundaries for royals. Many royals nowadays are going against the grain, and their families are starting to accept that. I think Albert is a different story simply because he was trying to shirk out of his paternal responsibility. I think that interracial royal couples are a good things and I look forward to seeing more relationships begin and flourish!
I think time will change that. There are becoming more and more inter-racial couples. From what I understand over in the UK the mixed raced community is the fastest growing, minority group. I think there will eventually be royals (even in line for the throne) who (will end up) married to a spouse who is of a different race then them.

Times are changing there was a time when royal would never marry someone who was a commoner, it would not have been allowed. It would either be a fellow royal from another family (even their own family, a distant cousin perhaps) or someone that was of nobility. Yet now we are seeing quite a few marry "commoners". There was one royal cant recall his name, but he married a woman who had a child already and I think don't know for 100% that she was a waitress or a store clerk before she married him. 50 years ago if someone had asked if the USA would ever see a non-white president, most would have said, no that will never happen.

Its not race related but look at William and Kate already living together before they are married. In olden days that would not have been taken well at all. Yet now its become pretty expected (or at least tolerated) for people to co-habited prior to marriage, even Royals.

Times are changing maybe slowly but they are.
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:11 PM
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Race and ethnicity

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Technically no matter the color of her skin, anyone who comes from a Latin American country, or Spain for that matter, is Latino. Latino or Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnic category, because the term Latino refers to a number of different ethnicities and skin tones.
Scientist as a group (especially since WWII) have pretty much proclaimed that race is an illusion. Every attempt to scientifically categorize human beings into sub-species that constitute race have failed.

So to call one marriage inter-racial, and another inter-ethnic has no real scientific basis. However, given the last 7 centuries the idea is ingrained into most people. The census bureau of the US more or less lets people make their own self classification as to race and ethnicity. Yes, they do not regard Latino as a race. Latino's can belong to several different races.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:34 PM
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Most Argentinans are white, actually Argentina has the higher percentage of whites (not mixtures) in latin America, its highly probably that Maxima is of Spaniard ancestry at a 100% so she's of an European background. That doesnt make her marriage an interracial one.
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:21 AM
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Maxima's father's family seems to be of Basque origin, but supposedly claims indigenous ancestry as well (although the claim is indigenous royal ancestry, so it seems far-fetched). Still, that ancestry would be as far back as Queen Silvia of Sweden's or Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg's.

As for Asians, I agree with whoever earlier mentioned interest in an Asian/European royal-on-royal marriage. I'd love to see the two thousand year pedigree of Japan marry into one of the ruling families of Europe and bridge the East/West divide in monarchies. And it's an obvious one, but I feel compelled to mention the former Princess Alexandra of Denmark (now Countess of Fredricksborg), who is of mixed Chinese and European ancestry.

I wish there was more media attention for Princess Angela of Liechtenstein (born Angela Brown), whose son is the highest-ranking (in terms of succession) person of significant African ancestry in Europe. I love the pictures of the young Prince Alfons von und zu Liechtenstein in the Liechtenstein national dress. It's the perfect illustration of modern multiracial identity.

Also, Noor of Jordan's marriage wasn't completely well-received, even within the family. She was famously referred to as Hussein's "CIA wife" by some of his children early on in the marriage, demonstrating a distrust of her American origin. Anyway, Noor (born Lisa Najeeb Halaby) was an ethnic Arab of Syrian, English, and Swedish American descent. (She is an Arab because her patrilineal ancestry is Arab).

However, recent events in Jordan have seen the BELOVED (seriously--ever met a Jordanian who doesn't gush about how beautiful Rania is?) Queen Rania publicly protested against by ultra-conservative tribal groups for her Palestinian origins. It's actually the first I've ever really seen a split in the Palestinian/Jordanian bond discussed so openly.

One of the Princes of Saudi Arabia just married interracially (if European and Arab are actually different "races," but we'll say that for the purpose of discussion) to one of the nieces of the Duke of Northumberland (actually I think she is the current duke's cousin).
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:22 AM
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A person's race does matter - it is very obvious if this entire thread is read. Whether for positive reasons or negative reasons, it seems to transcend with all people. Before we know anything about a person, we always assume, correctly or incorrectly, at first glance a person's race. Also, if race really did not matter, this conversation would not have begun a few years back and extended to now.
Another interracial marriage that seems to have been forgotten is the marriage between Napoleon and Josephine. Napoleon was Caucasian and I do believe Empress Josephine was 'creole.'
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:29 AM
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Another interracial marriage that seems to have been forgotten is the marriage between Napoleon and Josephine. Napoleon was Caucasian and I do believe Empress Josephine was 'creole.'
No, the marriage between Napoleon and Joséphine was not an interracial marriage. It's true that Joséphine was a Creole, but she was a white Creole, not of mixed race. As Wikipedia mentions: In many parts of the Southern Caribbean the term "Creolean" is used to refer to a French-speaking person of white ethnicity and born in the Caribbean.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:39 PM
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yes people dont realise that there are two meanings to the word croele...one being a person being of european descent born in the carribean and the other meaning of mixed heritage...more like a sub culture.
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the former Queen of Sikkum was Hope Cooke, whom I met at the Asia Society and later at the New York Public Library. She is a wonderful woman!
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:24 PM
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For some reason I think it's more acceptable for the heir of any throne to marry a women who is lighter then him ( so for example a middle eastern crown prince to marry a white or fairer woman) or in Europe it would probably be also okay if the woman in question had a bit of Asian blood ( not completely Asian of course and not everywhere ) then them marrying a women who is much darker then them. For example instead of king Hussein marrying queen Noor or princess Muna he had married a black women or prince William instead of marrying kate marrying an Indian girl. There would would have been some big problems. I'm of course against racism but to me it seems to me if they are lighter or a bit oriental they are more likely to be accepted, which is really horrible in my opinion.

A spare heir could perhaps in some countries pull it of but the main heir not perhaps. That's why I find the union of prince Hassan and princess Sarvath so delightful. She's darker then him and in those times it would have been more frowned upon by the people then now.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:22 PM
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"Prince Gaga"

HSH Prince Carl Alexander of Hohenzollern (b 1970) married in Las Vegas as his third wife Corinna Nehemie (born in the Congo 1991) on 22 February 2012.

Carl Alexander Prinz von Hohenzollern heiratet Kongo-Corinna - Royals - Bild.de

The article from the Bild.de link isn't promising - the headline is "Such Nice Tits"
...and look who's behind it all...

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Typical "Prince Gaga". He had forgotten to bring the wedding rings...
About his new wife, Prince Carl Alexander said: "Corinna is so loving...she has such nice tits."

And what does Corinna love about Alex?
"His name is the most beautiful thing he has."

"The wedding is the first time a coloured [sic] member has joined the German aristocracy."

The witness to the wedding and its arranger was none other than...Frederic Prinz von Anhalt (aka Robert Lichtenberg, husband of Zsa Zsa Gabor).
He is quoted as saying "Alexander needs a girl who takes him as he is. And Mindy's greatest wish was to be a real princess. [So] I've merged the two. "

Sonya, Alex's 2011 bride-to-be-who-never-was, is described by Bild.de as a "coloured thong model".

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v The Wedding Party, looking cozy
HSH Prince Carl Alexander von Hohenzollern, Corinna, Frederic von Anhalt
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:56 AM
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HH Maharaja Jagatjit Singh of Kapurthala (Indian province) married Anita Delgado from Spain . They married in 1908. She took the name Prem Kaur after the wedding.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:55 PM
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HSH Prince Carl Alexander of Hohenzollern (b 1970) married in Las Vegas as his third wife Corinna Nehemie (born in the Congo 1991) on 22 February 2012.
Wow... I'm in no way involved in all this and I'm embarrassed by it.
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Its Ok, they have since split up. The marriage was shorter than a Kardashians.
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In the US, Willem-Alexander and Maxima would be considered an interracial couple. "Latino/Hispanic" is considered a "race" on most legal forms, applications, etc. :o
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Latino/Hispanic is an ethnicity not a race. Unless you are speaking of people who have native blood, which Maxima does not. Maxima's family is Portugese/Spanish/Italian in origin before Argentina. Racially she is most certainly Caucasian, not native latin American.
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Latino/Hispanic is an ethnicity not a race. Unless you are speaking of people who have native blood, which Maxima does not. Maxima's family is Portugese/Spanish/Italian in origin before Argentina. Racially she is most certainly Caucasian, not native latin American.
Maxima says she is Latina and also has Inca ancestry in addition to the ones you mentioned.The Incas are native to Central and South America. According to those who have traced her ancestry, she is of Native American royal descent.

As for the "ethnicity not a race"...well, that is what I thought, but after filling out mounds of papers for my recent graduation, and for most of the applications I have filled out online, "Latino/Hispanic" is now a race - go figure!

Just FYI - Latino/Hispanic has nothing to do with having "native blood," as you put it. It is used to denote those who are specifically "latin" descent, such as Spanish descent.
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