Monalisa
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Please post here stories,articles, pictures and all about the scandalous affairs of royals.
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agisele said:Take note that the works of Philippa Gregory are Historical Fiction and while the events that she has written about may have happened, they might not neccesarily be true.
Lillia said:Who was Lola Montes?
Has anyone heard of her and how she lived?
Smilla said:As far as I remember, she was a 19th century dancer with a slightly tarnished reputation and became the girlfriend of one of the more notorious Bavarian kings, which displeased the people mightily.
Are you kidding?! History's littered with queens having affairs. Cleopatra's just one example. Closer to Elizabeth's time, one of the two queens beheaded by her father who was NOT her mother Anne Boleyn, was this young woman named Katherine Howard who married Henry the 8th when he was already much older. She however, was young and a bit foolish, and she is said to have had numerous affairs during her marriage to Elizabeth's father. Ultimately, this was the reason for her being executed eventually..Lillia said:I wonder if she was the only Queen to have an affair?
princess olga said:Are you kidding?! History's littered with queens having affairs. Cleopatra's just one example. Closer to Elizabeth's time, one of the two queens beheaded by her father who was NOT her mother Anne Boleyn, was this young woman named Katherine Howard who married Henry the 8th when he was already much older. She however, was young and a bit foolish, and she is said to have had numerous affairs during her marriage to Elizabeth's father. Ultimately, this was the reason for her being executed eventually..
She was wife number 5. I don't know for sure but I think it is assumed that the accusations are true. I read that by the time Katharine became Henry's wife, she became kindof disenchanted with the age difference as well as his temper: he was at the time suffering from an open leg wound of some sort, and she was the one who had to nurse the wound all the time. It's said she detested this, because of the not so appealing odor coming with poor Henry being wounded..basically she decided she was married to an old, overweight, bad-tempered cripple, and she was young and healthy and a tad too brazen it seems for her own good.Lillia said:Princess olga, that's certainly interesting!
I knew that Henry VIII had married 6 times and he was a scandal all by himself on that.
I also heard that he be-headed 2 of them, although I admit that I thought it was more than only 2 of his wives that saw the sword (or axe or whatever).
Were those accusations on Katherine Howard true? Which # wife was she?
Well, Julius Ceasar for one, she even had his child. As well as Mark Anthony, one of the powerful Romans who took charge after Ceasar was assasinated. Both Romans were married while being involved with Cleopatra. She and Mark Anthony died as a result of Mark Anthony's former wife being insulted by their love: the wife was the sister of Octavian, then in charge of the Roman empire.Lillia said:I did not know Cleopatra has scandalous affairs? Any names?
princess olga said:She was wife number 5. I don't know for sure but I think it is assumed that the accusations are true. I read that by the time Katharine became Henry's wife, she became kindof disenchanted with the age difference as well as his temper: he was at the time suffering from an open leg wound of some sort, and she was the one who had to nurse the wound all the time. It's said she detested this, because of the not so appealing odor coming with poor Henry being wounded..basically she decided she was married to an old, overweight, bad-tempered cripple, and she was young and healthy and a tad too brazen it seems for her own good.
That said, this is what current historians agree on but the fascinating thing about history is that oftentimes, new facts surface and historians have to adjust their theories and truths. So perhaps in due course perhaps some new detail might well be dug up that proves K.'s innocence, who knows?
Well, Julius Ceasar for one, she even had his child. As well as Mark Anthony, one of the powerful Romans who took charge after Ceasar was assasinated. Both Romans were married while being involved with Cleopatra. She and Mark Anthony died as a result of Mark Anthony's former wife being insulted by their love: the wife was the sister of Octavian, then in charge of the Roman empire.
Also, Cleopatra was married at some point to her own brother, but this was normal in royal Egyptian circles.
not sure what happened to Cleopatra's kids, but as far as other queens & affairs go, again, there were tons!Lillia said:My goodness! wow. I guess people would have thought Ms. Howard was a bit silly (crazy actually) given the way Henry's past 4 wives ended up! What was she thinking!?!?
I did not know that Cleopatra had a child by both Julius Ceasar and Marc Antony !
Whatever happened to those children? Did they survive to adulthood?
Also, have you heard of any other Queens in history that has affairs?
Furienna said:I don't think Cleopatra had a child with Mark Anthony, although I could be wrong. She did have a son named Ptolemaios with Julius Ceasar though. Ptolemaios was the traditional names from the Egyptian kings of Cleopatra's dynasty, and he was supposed to be the Egyptian king after his mother's death, but after Cleopatra's suicide, that dynasty never ruled again, so the last Ptolemaios couldn't have lived long.
I think I heard something about that story being false too. I thought about it when I wrote my last post, but I went along with the suicide story.H.M. Margrethe said:Hmm i am not to shure about the history of Cleopatra comitting suiside...
Acording to a very good detective in USA ( she was the one to solve the serie killing in Washington for som years ago) She thinks that it migth be Mark Anthony that was the one who had killede Cleopatra,because of her son with Julius Ceasar...We have to think that the offspring from the affair betwen Cleopatra and JuliusCeasar was going to rule the Roman Empire after JuliusCearsar and not MarkAnthony.
(I saw it on a program from Discovery Channel her in Denmark)
Furienna said:I think I heard something about that story being false too. I thought about it when I wrote my last post, but I went along with the suicide story.
Furienna said:I don't think Cleopatra had a child with Mark Anthony, although I could be wrong. She did have a son named Ptolemaios with Julius Ceasar though. Ptolemaios was the traditional names from the Egyptian kings of Cleopatra's dynasty, and he was supposed to be the Egyptian king after his mother's death, but after Cleopatra's suicide, that dynasty never ruled again, so the last Ptolemaios couldn't have lived long.
Laura Elizabeth said:
Royal Fan said:What about Peter the Great and Anna Mons
H.M. Margrethe said:Ok but IF it was a suicide who killede Cleopatra what did she use to do it with?
Acording to the detective it was not a snake,because the poison was not able to go through her body so fast..(a soldier sow her lying on her bed rigth after her (suicide) so he ran over to MarkAnthony who was about 10 min. away)
I cut also not have been a diffrent kinde of poison becaus again it was not fast enough.
Therfor i will go whit the teory about MarkAnthony killing the beautufyl Cleopatra becaus she had made an heir with JuliusCesar.