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Old 07-06-2009, 06:37 PM
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Sarah , Duchess of York

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Sarah is descended from James II.
Her ancestor was one of the 3 illegitimate children of Henry Fitzjames (I am not sure which one, although I believe it was a girl), Governor of Limousin, himself the son of James FitzJames, 1st Duke of Berwick - the illegitimate son of James II and Arabella Churchill.

And yes, she is also descended from Charles II; as susan alicia put it, half the English nobility and gentry is descended from him.
Can you give me a source thats says she is descended from James II ? . I would also like to know how Camilla is descended from Charles II.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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Henry Fitzjames.

According to the book "The Marshal Duke of Berwick " by Charles Petrie 1953, Henry Fitzjames had no sons only a daughter.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:56 AM
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Can you give me a source thats says she is descended from James II ? . I would also like to know how Camilla is descended from Charles II.
Camilla descend from Charles II through her maternal grandmother, Sonia Rosemary born Keppel of the counts of Albemarle since the wife of the second count of Albemarle was lady Anne Lennox, daughter of the first duke of Richmond, himself a son of Charles II.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:55 PM
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Camilla descend from Charles II through her maternal grandmother, Sonia Rosemary born Keppel of the counts of Albemarle since the wife of the second count of Albemarle was lady Anne Lennox, daughter of the first duke of Richmond, himself a son of Charles II.
Thanks for that information Amedea.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:34 AM
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I dont know much about the Commoner Royal"s ancestors, so thats why I am asking so many questions.

Does Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg have any famous ancestors?

What About Mette-Marit of Norway and Maxima of The Netherlands??
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:29 AM
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Maria Teresa descends from a medieval Spanish King, but I can't remember which one.
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Old 07-17-2009, 08:31 AM
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I dont know much about the Commoner Royal"s ancestors, so thats why I am asking so many questions.

Does Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg have any famous ancestors?

What About Mette-Marit of Norway and Maxima of The Netherlands??
Wikipedia says Maxima is a descendant of Pachacuti , ninth Sapa Inca of the Kingdom of Cusco.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:33 PM
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How would they know about such things? Through DNA testing?
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:02 PM
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Wikipedia says Maxima is a descendant of Pachacuti , ninth Sapa Inca of the Kingdom of Cusco.
I wouldn't trust Wikipedia, seriously. I doubt it.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:11 PM
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I agree. Wikipedia also says, Princess Michael of Kent is descendant of painter Rubens, it may be right because I don't know her pedigree completely, but I never heard something like that before...
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I agree. Wikipedia also says, Princess Michael of Kent is descendant of painter Rubens, it may be right because I don't know her pedigree completely, but I never heard something like that before...
This poster has traced out the line of descent:
The Family and Lineage of Princess Michael of Kent
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This poster has traced out the line of descent:
The Family and Lineage of Princess Michael of Kent
Nice to see someone reads my posts

She is also a descendant of Medici,Savoy,Valois and many other illustrious families...
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the Inka royal family is reasonably well known, as are their descedants
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I didn't know that, sorry.
Anyway, her ancestry goes back to some French names, at least the line drawn by this genealogy website... but I don't know if they were really aristocrats.

Ancestry of Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano
According to project Guttenberg Letizia has descended from Velasco family which have been made hereditary Constable of Castile in 15th century by King Henry IV of Castile,although through time this title lost it's significance...
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Princess Mathilde of Belgium is a descendant of the Counts of Savoy through several members of this family.
Her father,Count Patrick d'Udekem d'Acoz has also descended from Croy,Nassau,Leiningen,Isenburg and Ligne families...and through them from King Stephen of England and William the Conqueror,who was his maternal grandfather,King Louis VII of France etc.
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I wonder why I am slashed on these boards when I regret it that royal families are "commonizing" but apparently it is normal to take a microscope and research like CSI for the tiniest possible snippet of some royal descendants in the commoners' pedigrees????
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I dont know much about the Commoner Royal"s ancestors, so thats why I am asking so many questions.

Does Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg have any famous ancestors?

What About Mette-Marit of Norway and Maxima of The Netherlands??
Maria Theresa- one side of her family, the Mestras, are descended from Ferdinand the Great of Leon and Castile. He father's family is also descended from an old Spanish noble family the Espinosa de los Monteros.

Maxima an Queen Silvia are said to be descended from Alfonso III of Portugal. They are both descended from the same natural son.

Queen Paola's mother is a descendent of the Marquis de Lafayette.
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I wonder why I am slashed on these boards when I regret it that royal families are "commonizing" but apparently it is normal to take a microscope and research like CSI for the tiniest possible snippet of some royal descendants in the commoners' pedigrees????
I think there is a difference between noting that a current married-in royal has an aristocratic or royal lineage, especially since many of these forebears may be historical figures versus asserting that having an aristocratic or royal lineage makes you a better royal.
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Queen Paola's mother is a descendent of the Marquis de Lafayette.
Her mother is also a descendant of Duke Emanuele Filiberto of Savoy and through him of King Francois I of France,King Fernando "the Catholic" of Aragon and Queen Isabella "the Catholic" of Castille.
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Maria Theresa- one side of her family, the Mestras, are descended from Ferdinand the Great of Leon and Castile.
From her mother's side,she is also a descendant of King Alfonso IV of Aragon:


King Alfonso IV of Aragon,lived from 1299-1336
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Count Jaime de Aragon of Urgel,lived from 1321-1347
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Doña N,batarde de Aragon
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Don Jaime de Tores y Aragon,Senor de Zayas,born in 1360
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Don Alonso de Zayas y Muñiz de Godoy,born around 1380
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Don Alonso de Zayas Saavedra,Señor de la villa de Coria
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Don Luis de Zayas y Méndez de Biedma
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Don Lope de Zayas y Manrique
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Don Cristóbal de Zayas y de la Puebla,Regidor de Antequera,born in 1540
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Don Lope de Zayas-Bazán,born in 1565
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Doña Maria de Zayas-Bazán y Roxas
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Doña Maria de Barreda y Zayas-Bazán,died around 1718
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Doña Mariana Rosa de Velasco Miranda y Barreda
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Don Agustin de Zayas-Bazán y Velasco,died in 1766
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Don Agustin de Zayas-Bazán y Vergara,died in 1779
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Don José Zayas-Bazán y Sanchez-Pereira
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Doña Agueda de Zayas-Bazán y Aguëro,born in 1725
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Francisco Xavier Batista y Zayas-Bazán
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Melchior Batista y Caballero,lived from 1813-1890
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Melchior Batista y de Varona,lived from 1859-1932
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Agustin Batista y González de Mendoza,lived from 1899-1968
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Maria Teresa Batista y Falla,lived from 1928-1988
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Grand Duchess Maria Teresa of Luxembourg,born in 1956
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