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Old 09-17-2009, 05:18 AM
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Constantine has not estatus in greece, Greece is a Republic.He was the ex head of state.The story says that he was head of state
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:12 AM
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a new concept "monarchical republic".
Constantine of Greece has no status in a republic, because he must be integrated into the republic, as others.
In the case of Constantine he should:
a: Swear publicly a Republican constitution.
b: he must have a Greek surname
c: he must sign a document waiving any claim against the Greek state
In conclusion, He has that renounce to believe in a monarchical state.
Why has he that renounce to his belief if within a republic exist people that think
differently?, these people will take to sign the same document that constantine because they believe in other forms of State.
addition,he has family reasons for not taking a Greek surname.
I would not like that in the future, Prince Paul could not have surname "Greece" because his father renounced to it, and yet open a magazine and see the daughters of Prince Michael with the surname Greece and thereby justify a title that is not theirs.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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I agree with you
This is true I havenīt thought in it ...if he renounce to his surname, but other people that have this surname donīt renounce it. It could be a unjust in the future because the sons of constantine could not use this surname and other people will use it....This may be very humiliating, that Pavlo , Alexia, Nikolaos , Teodora , Filipos and their sons could not use this surname and others people could have the surname Greece.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:04 PM
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What on God's green earth are we talking about?
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:30 AM
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I for one donīt understand a word, Mr & Mrs Greece????
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:50 AM
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Althought he will swear constitution,he will recover passport , he will renounce to his surname ... he would have not the status in the Republic but, besides if it does, it appears that he and his family would have no English surname "Greece" and others would have it. They lose more than they would win.not green, blue
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:04 PM
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The thread is about treatment of ex heads of State and as an extension the Royal Family.
These who lived and followed the Greek history in the last 50 years or so, may agree that it is best we do not have any protocol rules on how to treat King Constantine, so we also forget politicians as well, who we do not want paraded around and treated with honours afforded to ex heads of State.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:43 PM
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Greek laws are clear, he has no status ... then why do you ask about his status?
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:18 AM
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I opened this tread in order to discuss about the status of former reigning monarchs in a Republic. That's because, no matter if someone agrees or not, Greece had Parliamentary Monarchy for over a centyry, had a King as a legitimate Head of State, and that cannot change.
There for, in a so called "Democratic" State, the ex King should be treated as a Former Head of the State. Why are we talking about swearing to the Republican Constitution? Did anyone of the Army sweared again to the new Constitution after the abolishing of Monarchy? The State has a continuity. The oath that King Constantine gave, was to his country, and that remains for ever.
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I believe that a King has no status in a republic because the way politics of the state has changed .
A king who takes status in a republic, he assumes the end of his ideals.
I think each case must be analyzed separately.
Constantine is the former head of state of Greece because it tells the story. He does not need a status ..
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