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Old 11-17-2005, 06:35 PM
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it's an ancient custom that women cover their heads when in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament or before entering a church however, since Vatican II the custom has slowly died out.

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Could anyone tell me if the wearing of the mantilla has any special meaning?
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:36 PM
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The mantillia is worn to funeral,weddings,and baptisims. A women's head must be covered in a catholic church,be the women a catholic or not.There are various mantillias that are worn at weddings,and the Latinos have gorgeous mantillias for brides,and mother's of the bride.

Royals I can think of that are Catholic or were
The Grimaldis
K Juan Carlos and Q Sofia converted
Q Silvie was
CP Maxima was
CP Marie-Chantal of Greece (was)
CP Mary of Denmark (was)
QPaola (was)
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:40 PM
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A women's head must be covered in a catholic church,be the women a catholic or not
As someone else said, since Vatican II it isn't compulsory but the older catholic ladies in my family always do. My grandmother won't take communion from a woman either.
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:59 PM
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Well, I believe it's a sign of dignity of humility in front of God
It sounds similar to the wearing of the Yarmulke in the Jewish Faith. They must always remember that God is above them. Jewish women also put on veils for the same reason.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:51 PM
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QPaola (was)
She still is. Aren't all the Belgian RF members?
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I didn't mean you any disrespect Danielane. We've all got our beliefs and I'm not trying to change your mind!



I never said that. I said that I would like them to return to Rome. You assumed I called Catholicism the one true faith. Why do you oppose for opposing's sake?

Now, back on topic. Queen Sofia always used to almost genuflect in front of the Pope and then kiss his ring - I haven't seen her do the same with Pope Benedict. I wonder how Queen Fabiola has taken to him. Has anyone got a pic of Letizia in a Mantilla or is it just Sofia who wears one to Mass?
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Well, I believe it's a sign of dignity of humility in front of God and many older women won't take communion unless they are wearing a mantilla or veil. It's an imitation of Our Lady's typical dress with the head covered. Sofia always wears a black or white mantilla whereas Fabiola wears a black or white lace veil.
Just to know: where comes this special representation of Mary? Nowhere in the Gospels it's described how she looked like.

BTW, I always wondered why she's always represented with blond hair and pale skin, since she lived in a country where people looked more likely like actual arabs or palestinians (no offense intended).
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:16 AM
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BTW, I always wondered why she's always represented with blond hair and pale skin, since she lived in a country where people looked more likely like actual arabs or palestinians (no offense intended).
I think the same happens with Angels! They are always represented with blonde hair and blue eyes, I don't know why!
Our Lady of Brazil (Nossa Senhora Aparecida) and Our Lady of Mexico (La Virgen Guadalupana) are represented with dark hair and dark face. The Black Virgin is also black. Our Lady of Fatima doesn't have blue eyes, but brown eyes.
But you're correct, in many books and in many images She is represented like if she was a Nordic woman I never understood why.


I think Queen Paola still is a Catholic. I didn't know Mary of Denmark was catholic, I thought she was protestant.
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Just to know: where comes this special representation of Mary? Nowhere in the Gospels it's described how she looked like.
When The Virgin lived on earth, all women used the head covered. Like many arab women still do. This doesn't come in the Gospels, this is a historical fact.
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Just to know: where comes this special representation of Mary? Nowhere in the Gospels it's described how she looked like.
When The Virgin lived on earth, all women used the head covered. Like many arab women still do. This doesn't come in the Gospels, this is a historical fact.
What are the proofs for that?
BTW, I have still many questions about the "polish" representation of Mary.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:53 AM
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Ahem, this thread is about discussing/listing Catholic royals. The theological off-topic discussion, can it be taken elsewhere?

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That wasn't aimed at you Danielane!

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As the pointer to getting back on topic has been ignored, anything digressing from "Catholic Royals" will be deleted.

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Old 11-18-2005, 06:57 AM
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CP Mary of Denmark (was)
Her Royal Highness Crown Princess Mary of Denmark was a Presbyterian, not a Catholic. She then converted to become a Lutheran.
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Her Royal Highness Crown Princess Mary of Denmark was a Presbyterian, not a Catholic. She then converted to become a Lutheran.
No she wasn't, she was Protestant.
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No she wasn't, she was Protestant.
Layla, Presbyterians and Lutherans ARE Protestant.
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Layla, Presbyterians and Lutherans ARE Protestant.
Well, who knows these things! :p But, on ALL the news reports and articles about her, they've only said she was "Protestant" before becoming "Lutheran". So, I didn't know!
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Well, who knows these things! :p But, on ALL the news reports and articles about her, they've only said she was "Protestant" before becoming "Lutheran". So, I didn't know!
BTW, Sorry Von Shelesian!
Lutheran is universally recognized as a protestant denomination.

I've read in many different places that Mary was raised presbyterian. though, i guess a lot of people aren't too familiar with that term. (and it does sound a lot like protestant ) it stuck in my mind because that's what I am.
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I've read in many different places that Mary was raised presbyterian. though, i guess a lot of people aren't too familiar with that term.
We have the Church of England in England, and the Presbyterian Church in Scotland; like the Scots this church is a bit more dour. Mary comes from a Scottish background (remember her father's kilt at the wedding?) so her being Presbyterian should come as no surprise.
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We have the Church of England in England, and the Presbyterian Church in Scotland; like the Scots this church is a bit morer dour. Mary comes from a Scottish background (remember her father's kilt at the wedding?) so her being Presbyterian should come as no surprise.
dour? that hurts me
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