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11-16-2005, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tosca
The Duke of Aosta has an odd way to comply with the Catholic Church principles, as he's having a child of his latest mistress, an Italo-Dutch Duchess. He said this in an interview to the Italian edition of "Vanity Fair".
Then he abandoned this lady and went back to his second wife.
In retaliation the Duchess gave an interview to the state-run TV. Noblesse oblige!
Amedeo is reported to have several illegitimate children as well.
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I didn't know this Tosca, who is the duchess he made pregnant and is she still married to her husband? What is his title anyway? Did the duke of Aosta also abandon/cheated on his first wife, Chantal of France?
I hope Olga of Greece knows where she is getting herself into. When will she marry Amedeo (as the wedding was postponed)?
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11-16-2005, 04:52 AM
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The Royal Family of Lesotho are Catholics and in Polynesia the Royal Families of Uvea, Sigave and Alo are also Catholics.
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11-16-2005, 07:41 AM
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I didn't know this Tosca, who is the duchess he made pregnant and is she still married to her husband? What is his title anyway? Did the duke of Aosta also abandon/cheated on his first wife, Chantal of France?
I hope Olga of Greece knows where she is getting herself into. When will she marry Amedeo (as the wedding was postponed)?
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His marriage with Claude (and not Chantal) of France was annulled an he married again with an Italian aristocrat, donna Silvia Paterno di Spedalotto.
Many believed the marriage of Olga and Aimone was postponed because of the duke of Aosta to be father again.
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11-16-2005, 08:21 AM
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Thanks for the information, it's very interesting. I always mix up Chantal and Claude, but Chatal is indeed the younger sister who married the Baron Sambucy de Sorgue.
Let's hope it is the only reason for the postponement, as I like the two as a couple.
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11-16-2005, 10:56 AM
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Thanks for the information, it's very interesting. I always mix up Chantal and Claude, but Chatal is indeed the younger sister who married the Baron Sambucy de Sorgue.
Let's hope it is the only reason for the postponement, as I like the two as a couple.
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The other reason is said to be the will of the two families of a grand and royal wedding in Torino.
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11-16-2005, 11:02 AM
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Princess Máxima of the Netherlands is catholic, but she has to raise her childen in the protestant religion.
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11-16-2005, 11:08 AM
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Marilene is also Catholic. her kids were baptized twice. once protestant, once catholic.
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11-16-2005, 11:29 AM
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I didn't know this Tosca, who is the duchess he made pregnant and is she still married to her husband? What is his title anyway? Did the duke of Aosta also abandon/cheated on his first wife, Chantal of France?
I hope Olga of Greece knows where she is getting herself into. When will she marry Amedeo (as the wedding was postponed)?
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Well, I'm not much a fan of the Savoia family. I heard the news accidentally on the Italian TV. The name of the Italo -Dutch duchess he made pregnant is Kyara van Ellinkhuizen ( I hope to have spelled it correctly ). She must be in her mid 40s, if I'm not mistaken. She has a daughter, who's now 15, from a previous marriage and she was in a relationship with a movie director of noble stock before meeting Amedeo on a train. She works as a movie director too. A couple of her short films were also awarded prizes. However, like most Italians I had never heard of her before.
Amedeo title is His Royal Highness the Duke of Savoia - Aosta
As far as I know Amedeo has had at least one son from one of his mistresses while he was still married to Claude of France. However there's nothing official, but this young man is identical to his son Aimone.
I didn't know his son's marriage was postponed though, I must have missed something: I was ironing, when I heard about the Kyara story:)
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11-16-2005, 11:32 AM
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Milla grazie, Tosca. :)
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Prego, non c'č di che! You're welcome!:)
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11-16-2005, 11:41 AM
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when do you say baptize, and when christened?? is there difference?
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11-16-2005, 11:43 AM
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Well I understand a baptism to be a Catholic ceremony whereas a christening is a Protestant one but the actual word christening means to give a christian name at a baptism i.e Mary.
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11-16-2005, 11:44 AM
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when do you say baptize, and when christened?? is there difference?
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I think it's the same thing, just different names for the same thing.
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11-16-2005, 11:52 AM
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Kyara van Ellinkhuizen, the duchess who is expecting Amedeo's baby. (olycom)
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2558/000026w8wl.jpg
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11-16-2005, 03:16 PM
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See Sam? There is a big response to this thread..
It is very interesting to read just how many, especially on the German side, are Catholics.
I would have thought all the German royals -under the different duchies and geopgrahic locations, would have all been Lutheran or another Protestant religion.
So it is also educational, this thread, for me. :)
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11-16-2005, 03:17 PM
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Yes! I don't know who voted it as being bad when I find out - they're for it - LOL.
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11-16-2005, 03:57 PM
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Well PollyEmma, it's more a personal note of who's on my side as it were! I knew that Queen Sofia and Queen Fabiola were catholic for example and so without going too much into it, I kept them in my prayers. Now, I don't intend to speil a list off to God each night who I am sure has better things to do with his time, but its of interest to me to know.
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Who is on "your side"? Gee, I must be bad because I am a Protestant. The prejudice never ends on these threads!
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11-16-2005, 04:15 PM
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Sam, do you mean to say you don't keep Protestant royals in your prayers?
One wonders how the Queen has managed, all these years.
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11-16-2005, 04:18 PM
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Who is on "your side"? Gee, I must be bad because I am a Protestant. The prejudice never ends on these threads!
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Oh come on - It was a joke. I think!!
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Sam, do you mean to say you don't keep Protestant royals in your prayers?
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Well, I do but I pray that they'll bring their countries back to Rome. I think it's often been remarked that Charles practises as an Orthodox Christian - wasn't there a rumour that he was baptised secretly?
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11-16-2005, 04:19 PM
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Sam, do you mean to say you don't keep Protestant royals in your prayers?
One wonders how the Queen has managed, all these years.
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Thanks for the laugh Elspeth!! Her Majesty is quite resilient and I believe can stand the shock!!:p :p  Besides, many thousands of others are praying for her from a myriad of religions!:) You don't have to be Protestant to wish Her Majesty well!
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11-16-2005, 04:24 PM
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Oh come on - It was a joke. I think!!
Well, I do but I pray that they'll bring their countries back to Rome. I think it's often been remarked that Charles practises as an Orthodox Christian - wasn't there a rumour that he was baptised secretly?
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I've never heard that before. I've often heard Charles is into Buddhism, though, so: sorry,Beatrixfan, he won't be reversing the work of Henry VIII.
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