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Old 12-22-2015, 07:09 AM
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Thank you for the link, saved it and will be reviewing it later when I wake-up...

And the hostage thing, is it still done today? Darn how does Parliament feel about that and how do they pick the hostage and where is the hostage kept? Maybe in the dungeon with only bread and no water, just where they belong HM takes a hostage....that is so funny and unbelievable.

Any more of those traditions for now I am learning alot here, so far it is:
1) Picking the sheriff with needles whose names are on a piece of paper
2) Taking a member of Parliament hostage when HM gives the State of Union speech in Parliament

I so love these traditions for to me it keeps the history and heritage alive as they way it should be.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:28 AM
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I know that when it comes time for High Sheriffs of counties in Britain to be chosen (nowadays it's a ceremonial role) Queen Elizabeth pricks out the names with a bodkin during a Privy Council meeting. That tradition dates from Elizabeth I, who was sitting embroidering when she was first asked to choose the names and used a bodkin to do so.
Amazing.
I thought a bodkin is an (armour-piercing) arrow. I didn't know it had other meanings as well.
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Due to a decree by King Charles II of England, at least six ravens must be kept at the Tower of London. Charles II had considered doing away with the ravens of the Tower.
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:34 AM
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I saw the full ceremony of Prince Andrew being introduced into the House of Lords back in 1987 on YouTube. Why haven’t William and Harry been formally introduced into the House of Lords? Has the requirement been done away with? Or will these ceremonies take place upon Charles’s succession?

Here is The Duke of York’s Introduction into the House of Lords Ceremony-
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Old 12-27-2018, 03:14 AM
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I'm just going on a wild guess here but I would imagine that it would have to do with the House of Lords reform of 1999. The 1999 House of Lords Act. An important amendment allowed 92 hereditary peers to remain members of the Lords for an interim period. The Act reduced membership from 1,330 to 669 mainly life peers. There have been several amendments to the House of Lords Act since.

William and Harry are hereditary peers.
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:16 AM
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I saw the full ceremony of Prince Andrew being introduced into the House of Lords back in 1987 on YouTube. Why haven’t William and Harry been formally introduced into the House of Lords ?
Because William and Harry, as other hereditary peers, are no longer automatic members of the House of Lords.

Following the House of Lords Act 1999, there are only 92 hereditary peers left in the House of Lords. Two of those are actually ex-officio members; for the other 90 seats, any hereditary peer in the country can stand for election when a seat is vacant. Theoretically, William and Harry could stand too, but, as princes of the United Kingdom, they aren’t supposed to do so.
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:36 AM
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So does this mean they can’t attend the State Opening of Parliament? Or them being hereditary peers automatically give them the right to do so without the introduction?
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I don't believe there is any fast rule on who can accompany the monarch to the State Opening of Parliament. Many royals have done so in the past.

The introduction to the House of Lords was for the specific reason that at one time a hereditary peer automatically could sit in for proceedings of Parliament so they were "introduced". This is no longer so. The three branches come together for the State Opening. The House of Commons, The House of Lords and the Monarch. The two houses are the only ones with any kind of legislature power and that's dominated by the House of Commons actually. The Lords shares the task of making and shaping laws and checking and challenging the work of the government.

The State Opening of Parliament is very traditional and ceremonial with rituals that go back hundreds of years.
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Thank you guys for explaining this to me. I was just curious as to why we haven’t seen anymore royal introductions into The House of Lords? Now it’s making sense to me.
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King George V and Queen Mary attends the Welcoming Ceremony of The Prince of Wales, Duke of York and Duke of Gloucester back to London. My guess they were abroad. We don’t see these kind of Welcoming Ceremonies for senior Members of The Royal Family on their return to London from trips anymore.
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King George V and Queen Mary attends the Welcoming Ceremony of The Prince of Wales, Duke of York and Duke of Gloucester back to London. My guess they were abroad. We donít see these kind of Welcoming Ceremonies for senior Members of The Royal Family on their return to London from trips anymore.
The trips tend to be shorter these days since travel is faster--I imagine that has something to do with it.
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The trips tend to be shorter these days since travel is faster--I imagine that has something to do with it.
Yeah, the idea of cutting down on ceremonial events probably had something to do wth it as well. I think there used to be an official banquet held in the returning royals honor at Banqueting House as well.
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The Japanese royals still have these ceremonies as well as several other mainly Asian monarchies. In Europe it seems that the Spanish are most official in their comings and goings on official trips.
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The British royals count arrivals and departures on trips as official engagements; which is noted in the CC.
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So many ceremonies in Japan

* send off and welcome back ceremonies as Somebody mentioned
* birthday greetings
* visiting the ancestors' shrine before and after foreign trips. Also, grave visits after longer trips abroad.
* visiting the emperor, empress, and ancestors' after academic milestones (i.e. - finishing primary school)
* reporting your coming-of-age to family, ancestors, and ancestral deity at Ise Shrine
* marriage rituals: nosai-no-gi (formal betrothal), kokki-no-gi (announcing the date), choken-no-gi (formal audience)
* walking backwards after formal greetings, skip to 3:45 in the video below to see Princess Tsuguko's exit after New Year's greetings
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Does anyone know if this "tradition" is true where the Japanese Emporer is forbidden to eat the food "Fugu" (pufferfish) because of safety reasons?
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The late King Hussein of Jordan had someone eating a part of his food before him for Security reasons
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Does anyone know if this "tradition" is true where the Japanese Emporer is forbidden to eat the food "Fugu" (pufferfish) because of safety reasons?
was htat what poor George Bush ate that made him very publicly ill?
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