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All royal wifes bear their husbands full title?
For example: HRH Countess of Wessex: is Princess of UK of GB & Viscountess of Severn, too? HRH Grand Duchess of Luxembourg: is Duchess of Nassau, Countess of Sayn, Königstein, Katzenelnbogen & Dieza, Viscountess of d'Hammerstein, etc. HSH Fürstin of Liechtenstein: is Duchess of Troppau & Jägerndorf hercege HI & RH Princess Astrid of Belgium: is Archduchess & Princess Imperial of Austria-Erste, Princess Royal of Hungary, Bohemia And when the wife has got higher rank than her husband? Hereditary Princess of Liechtenstein HRH or HSH? I think HRH, because the wifes bear their ranks & styles after the marriages, I think.
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what is the question
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All royal wifes bear their husbands full title? :)
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i still do not understand
do you state that all royal wifes bear their husbands full title and want help to list them all does not all women bear the husbands title if he is a royal Last edited by Josefine; 08-15-2004 at 07:06 AM. |
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Sorry
I just list some royal ladies, but I don't know that it is correct titles.ű These are examples.
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I know about Earl and Countess of Wessex both create title since got married in June 1999 but Sophie known as Countess of Wessex and Edward known as Earl of Wessex.
Prince Charles and late Diana,Princess of Wales been married in 1981 but both create as Prince and Princess of Wales before got married in July 1981 but both got divorces in August 1996 Diana known as Diana,Princess of Wales. Princess Anne known as Princess Royal but i dont know why as recall from past Princess Royal to current Princess Royal. Prince Andrew and Sarah,Duchess of York been married in July 1986 i think so but both create titles as Duke and Duchess of York before got married both got separate in 1992 following taboids and divorces in 1996 but Sarah known as Sarah,Duchess of York. Sara Boyce |
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Thanks Sara!
But I think, that Countess of Wessex is Princess of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and Viscountess of Severn (of course Her Royal Highness), isn't she?
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When Sophie Rhys-Jones married Prince Edward, I believe she rejected the title "Princess".
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When Prince Edward and Sophie Rhys-Jones got married in 1999 - Queen Elizabeth II created the styles of Earl of Wessex and Viscount Severn for Prince Edward, and Sophie became the Countess of Wessex. They are both HRH's.
As you might know, it was also descided that their children will not get the titile of HRH, only the courtesy titles that are for the son or daughter of an Earl. Therefore, their firstborn is known as Lady Louise Windsor.
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Yes, but I think she is a princess as Princess Alice, same situation, I think.
And what about Grand Duchess Maria-Teresa? She is Duchess of Nassau, Countess of Sayn, Königstein, Katzenelnbogen & Dieza, Viscountess of d'Hammerstein, etc., too?
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I guess she can be addressed as "Princess", however, she is addressed, more often than not, as HRH the Countess of Wessex.
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The Countess of Wessex is Princess Edward of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Countess of Wessex, and Viscountess Severn. She is not a princess in her own right. Princess Alice was created a princess at the time of her husband's death to distinguish her from her daughter-in-law Birgitte. (BTW, Birgitte is Princess Richard of Great Britain and Ireland).
This dispersion of titles is the same in Denmark and Greece (ex: Crown Prince Pavlos). Princess Alexandra of Denmark was created a princess in her own right by Queen Margrethe. In the Netherlands, the royal wives bear the titles of their husbands. In Belgium, both Mathilde and Claire were made princesses in the own right. I'm not sure about Spain, Sweden, Norway. |
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Sophie is NOT a Princess (in her own right) - she is HRH The Countess of Wessex! This was the style that Queen Elizabeth II created for her at her marriage to one of her sons. I think her titles are (not in her own right): HRH The Princess Edward, Countess of Wessex, Viscountess Severn.
Princess Alice, The Duchess of Gloucester, on the other hand - is another matter. She was born in a different era, and was already the daughter of a Duke when she was married. When her husband, The Duke of Gloucester, died in 1974, she became known as Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester to distinguish herself from her daughter-in-law who is now the new Duchess of Gloucester.
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And since there haven't been any other males in the line since 1905 than the one male heir in each generation, there's been no discussion about what titles the wives of princes not first in line to the throne should be styled. This discussion might come up if Ingrid Alexandra gets a brother, or it might not come up at all.
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In Sweden, it is also Monarch that descides about titles for members of the Royal Family. There has been a lot of discussion about the titles of the coming husbands of Crown Princess Victoria and Princess Madeleine, and also of Prince Carl Philip. No one know how it will be until the day of the announcement for it comes...
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Sophie still as Countess! but she not as PRINCESS! because she and Edward makes create titles since got engagement and before wedding but the couple would agree to become Earl and Countess of Wessex many Royal families know Earl and Countess of Wessexes in Great Britian all the times! Sara Boyce |
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Prince Felipe and his new bride makes create as Prince and Princess of Austria since got married.And im not sure about Prince Haakon and his wife have create as title? when got married in 2001. Crown Prince Phillipe and his wife Crown Princess Mathilde of Belguim have no create as title! and Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden. Sara Boyce |
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